Skinner, can you please start an "I Hate Apple" forum?
Every time Cupertino farts the GD page fills up with posts about how much Apple sucks and how much everybody loves their [Linux, Samsung, HTC, flip phone, Atari, Jitterbug] device, and how Apple has destroyed the entire world.
Fercrissake, if you don't like the new iPhone (or simply are envious or cannot afford it), just don't buy it. I'd still love a new Tesla, but just because I cannot afford one doesn't mean Tesla sucks. Get real people. An orange shitgibbon is destroying our country, and we're on DU whining about another Apple product. Sheesh.
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Besides wanting more Apple products I would like a Tesla , and it can be used , that's fine doesn't have to be new as long as it's in good shape. Looking forward to it all...
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I want one new or used after reading this article:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article172345607.html
The article explains how the company remotly boosted the battery capacity. I thought to my self, Ok, so they did a good thing, then I thought, why did they not just sell them that way in the first place. Oh yeah, cause they charge 5 grand more for the other model with full capacity utilization. 
Sweet
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=3499154
I think that some of you are well aware that the discussions about chicken are not about chicken at all. The purpose of these threads is to dig up an old flame war and wave it in the faces of certain people, because you want to get under their skin. To their credit, those people have not taken the bait. But we really think that a dozen threads on a topic specifically intended to bait people is really enough.
But now we are in a completely idiotic death-spiral of enforcement and boundaries-testing. The mods lock a thread, and then three spring up. And so the purpose of starting threads about chicken is no longer about tweaking a few of your fellow DUers, it's now about tweaking the moderators.
And then I get incredulous emails from people who are shocked, shocked that discussion of chicken -- chicken fercryinoutloud -- is not allowed. As if the discussion of chicken is something that is vitally important and that everyone is really interested in.
So please, if you really need to discuss chicken, do it in one of the threads that is already open on the subject. But please stop posting new threads about chicken or turkey or whatever. I know it's really fun to tweak people, especially when those people are the moderators, but I think it's time to find to something else fun to do.
Namely, an endless series of "neener neener" threads where posters try to dance as close to the line of rehashing the 2016 primaries without getting a hide?
wearing? 
I was touting Apple stock at 40 bucks and meanwhile you had posters with froggy user names ranting every day that Apple was nothing but overpriced hardware...blah...blah...blah.
I still need to thank that froggy genius because I pressed up my Apple position due to his loud relentless stupidity.
and that's that! I added $20 the other day so I'm good for the rest of the year
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Really?
Quoting for posterity "Fercrissake, if you don't like the new iPhone (or simply are envious or cannot afford it), just don't buy it. I'd still love a new Tesla, but just because I cannot afford one doesn't mean Tesla sucks."
So, god forbid, we discuss positives and negatives of the various aspects of an iPhone?
Need a safe space? 
I don't buy Apple products for the same reason I don't buy Sony products: if you design your device to use non-standard shit SIMPLY so you can make extra money selling wires and accessories at huge markups, I'm not going to play along. Especially when you CHANGE the non-standard shit you use every few years just for shits and giggles.
I put an aftermarket car stereo in my old car; it came with an original-style 30-pin iPhone/iPod cable so you could plug your device into your car stereo easily. It was a few years old but worked well enough and was much better than the stock Chrysler unit. Fair enough; it also came with a standardized 3.5mm audio input for "everything else".
So I go to plug in my iPod Nano, and found out to my unpleasant surprise that Apple had decided to rearrange the wiring of the 30-pin connector a little. So my iPod Nano could connect to the stereo, and I got sound, and the display showed what was playing, and I could pause and skip and so on, but the little wiring change that Apple made MEANT THE DAMN IPOD WOULDN'T CHARGE.
It THOUGHT it was charging, because when it was plugged in the screen lit up full-time. But it wasn't, and the always-on screen killed it relatively quickly as a result, rendering it useless for its intended purpose.
For everyday use, I wore a pair of earbuds. For long trips, I plugged the 30-pin cable into a USB charger in the car's power port, and plugged the 3.5mm aux cable into the stereo. A patch of velcro kept the iPod within finger-poking distance.
And when I got a smartphone a few years later (2012, I think), it wasn't an Apple product because I wasn't going to be dealing with this shit again. It uses an industry-standard micro-USB cable and can take an industry standard micro-SD memory card that I can easily and readily access. It's not about cost; free iPhone offers abound. But there's only so much inherent stupidity I can take.
Apple makes a shit-ton of money, so obviously a lot of people don't care about what I care about. That's all well and good. Works for me and works for them. But lose the "sore winner" attitude; it's not becoming from the Fanta Menace, and it's not becoming from Apple users either.
