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(16,887 posts)Iggo
(47,564 posts)He doesn't understand there's a difference between image and substance.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Way too many folks don't know what America did to North Korea - or conveniently ignore the slaughter committed in the name of freedom and democracy.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I can hardly blame them
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)We dropped more bombs on Vietnam that we did anywhere
PdxSean
(574 posts)Forgiving or "not hating" us isn't necessarily "liking" us.
Ezior
(505 posts)I mean, I'm not thrilled that the USA targeted German civilians in WW2.
If it helped win the war against the Nazis, then I can accept it.
The few times they found a WW2 bomb and I had to leave my home while they defuse it, I thought about how lucky we are that the Nazis are mostly dead now and Russia, the USA, France, the UK and other nations won WW2. And also the great treatment we (West Germany) received after WW2, thanks to the USA. You helped us establish democracy in our country, I hope we can keep it.
So yeah. I do like the USA (though I don't like EVERYTHING the USA stands for). I don't like Trump.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)My mother-in-law was in London during the Blitz. She was five years old. Her father was a fireman, he went out during the bombing night after night. They were bombed out of home twice. The stress of it ruined her parents' marriage, and her mother in particular was never right again. You can just imagine how my MIL felt about Germans. She never got over it.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Mom was in Wales.
Neither hated Germans later in life. My mom almost married a German POW. Mom later worked for a German company for years. They had many German friends, including one who was a Jew with the Auschwitz tattoo on her arm. They all got along just fine.
Susie, the survivor of Auschwitz had no problems with Melitta, whose father was a cop in Munich and did join the Nazi party. Marianne's family were not Nazis, but her father fought in the war. Not really much of a choice. I remember all those cocktail parties. They all enjoyed each other immensely.
It's funny how people react differently.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)We decimated their country. I have no doubt we would feel the SAME way they do it they had done it to us. Imagine if half of our cities had been burned to the ground with incendiary bombs & napalm? And also ~10% of our population killed? Maybe 20 million people? Yeah, ok. We're the good guys.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)msongs
(67,433 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Except for the waves and waves of Chinese "volunteers".
Mao is greatly to blame.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)I think China has much more reason to have historical anger towards Japan. Japan killed tens of millions of Chinese in WW II after a completely unprovoked invasion.
I understand why North Korea hates us, but manifesting that hatred by building nukes that would kill tens of millions in both countries can hardly be tolerated.
What are we supposed to do- say "ok, we carpet bombed you in 1951, so go ahead and nuke a bunch of our cities?"
hatrack
(59,592 posts)It would have involved (among other things) bombing dams, canals, and water systems, with the specific intent of destroying North Vietnam's ability to grow rice, to say nothing of the short-term flood damage of destroying dams, and the resulting fatalities.
The November Option was too much for Nixon, who didn't use it.
However, going after dams and water systems was part of the air war in Korea, and was applied with devastating effect.
Read the chapter "Lessons of Limited War" in Richard Rhodes' "Dark Sun", a history of the creation of the hydrogen bomb, for additional details.
LeftInTX
(25,515 posts)Truman fired him because of it.