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Bravenak---After going after Berniebros, Trump, and especially Susan Sarandon (with her army of sycophants) Twitter banned our old colleague for a week. Meanwhile, they keep Assange and upgrade him to 250 characters
I think there is something suspicious going on and probably money involved --Why? because their revenue and stock last quarter were terrible--It is possible that they have nefarious non-share holding donors. I'm just speculating but why does Sarandon & gang slide - while Bravenak is punished and Assange promoted (into the selected 250 character clique)?
I'd like to see Mueller includes their finances in his investigation
shenmue
(38,506 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)ornotna
(10,803 posts)Pretty strong words. 🤔
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Don't play by the rules and fling racist and anti-Semitic shit? Everyone else's fault!
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Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)She got alerted on by a bunch of people and was put into automatic timeout until it could be reviewed/she cooled down.
In the grand scheme of twitter, bravenak is a random nobody.
Yet it gets so much attention here.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)She's a familiar name here on DU. Someone posted something about her. Why do you care enough to trash her in this thread?
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)But making her out to be this huge thing that OH MY GOD TWITTER BLOCKED HER!!@$#@@% aid just ridiculous.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)that they don't comprehend. If someone posts a bunch of inflammatory crap and it gets alerted, a number of alerts will cause the account to be temporarily suspended.
But around these parts, it's all 'We're being oppressed!!' bullshit because hey, the world is complicated and as much as we democrats like to pretend that we like to learn things there's a good segment that simply doesn't, especially when it comes to technology and applications.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Just like the attempt to shut up the NFL players' protests.
"Inflammatory" appears to be anything that upsets the powers that be.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)6000eliot
(5,643 posts)The horrible things the Nazis say get a pass, however.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Spot on.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I don't get this big "bravenak is a hero" thing.
She posted a bunch of "fuck you" memes about Sarandon and others.
I would not call that "taking on" Sarandon. It's the equivalent of writing something on a bathroom wall.
She got in trouble because of her profane postings, just as she did here. If one posts nasty memes about another person, it stands to reason that the person might respond in kind.
Most of us learned this in kindergarten - if you call another person a poopie head, most likely they will then call YOU a poopie head. And yes, they may have their friends call you a poopie head too.
This behavior is puerile and I cannot see how it advances the Democratic cause.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)That's my question.
Why not just let people post stuff and leave it at that?
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)SixString
(1,057 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)I see that makes you very happy.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Are you trying to tell me what I can and cannot say?
Why does it matter to you what young women wear? Yes, I heard about your judgmental comments.
I can comment on this thread and any other thread, just as Blue can. Blue and I rarely agree, but on this we do.
Why does it matter to you what another poster says?
I find this odd; you're not usually this way. I mean, you do tend to pontificate on occasion, but generally you don't comment negatively on the content of others' posts.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I was usually on her side here on DU back a few months or a year ago (time is too fluid for me lol), but she lost me along the way.
I enjoyed her threads and her posts, but she somehow got a little off the track for my liking. Not that my liking matters to anyone. I find continual profanity boring and a sign someone has no real argument.
No offense intended toward you Mineral Man. I know you and I sometimes (oftentimes?) disagree, but I enjoy your posts. We'll agree to disagree on this one.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #36)
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MineralMan
(146,317 posts)screen name here, so I'm not sure why I should care. But, hey, thanks for letting me know...
Piasladic
(1,160 posts)Du is my homepage. I joined about ten years ago, but I never post unless it's something that really upsets me. This is one of those things.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I can't quite see why you shared that particular link with me. And as a reply to my saying that Bravenak was a DU friend of mine. Was your intent to get me to dump her as a friend? I wouldn't do that.
So, according to you, something "really upset" you. Was it that I consider Bravenak to be a friend? Why would that upset you?
Actually, I remember the context of that post. I think it's interesting that it shows up in that link as a screenshot, only, rather than a link to the post. Maybe someone has a list somewhere of such things, to make it easy for people to post them. I know of lists like that. I've seen lists like that.
Anyhow, I suppose you'll drop back into lurking mode again, so I probably won't encounter your screen name again until something else "really upsets" you.
melman
(7,681 posts)The idea that there's some 'context' that would make those words acceptable. That's very interesting indeed.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I said I know the context of them. There is a difference. Most people have said unacceptable things at one time or another. Certainly I have. Most of my friends have, as well, at one time or another. When I recognize that I have, I apologize and attempt to explain myself.
Context is important for understanding. It's difficult to analyze something based on an out-of-context fragment.
Post count credibility. That's always a sure-fire winner.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)radical noodle
(8,003 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Since when is "importance" a criteria for worthiness of an OP?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I find it very amusing.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)I see you won't answer my question.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)No one cares about a nobody who publishes fuck you memes. She used to be on DU, which is why I comment on it - this is a DU thread.
Sorry if you misunderstood.
I find all this bravenak stuff very amusing.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Silenced.
Response to pintobean (Reply #139)
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pintobean
(18,101 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)jury decisions do.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)It silences people.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)be somebody to people here, so she is somebody here still....she will not be silenced...sounds like a word always used by those offended by a POC speaking their minds....been like this for generations...well power DOES NOT last forever...history has proven that fact time after time.............arrogance has it's own limitations and is a huge 'tell', racially.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Has nothing to do with being a POC, a woman, or who she supported in the primaries. She repeatedly broke the rules here. She follows thousands of others before her. People who thought they were more important than the rest of us, and didn't need to follow the rules. She's not a hero or a martyr, but I would say a victim. A victim of the people claiming to be her supporters. People who encouraged her to be rude, crude and obnoxious rather than warning her that she needed to throttle it back.
Why? Because they didn't have the guts to post what she would, knowing it was a dangerous path.
I know it, you know it. Word salad DOES NOT excuse arrogance based on racial determination and she was banned on every count YOU named, mainly because she was POC and a woman. She may have been 'silenced' here, something I feel you would be happy with with no matter who, IF they like Bravenak, continually pointed out the rudeness and narrow mindedness of all who opposed truth about those who alert stalked her, harassed her and it was a small certain cadre here of the usual suspects always and usually males of a certain racial persuasion who did not like a POC to be outspoken on their forum. I have always seen that here.
Rules be damned. They had NOTHING to do with her being banned. That she was an outspoken POC who happened to fly in the face of perceived white male supremacy that had people here gnashing their teeth and ganging up on her constantly...she is a warrior unlike many here. And she has not been silenced...she has definitely gone on to bigger things than this forum.
She spoke truth to typical corrupted power that this society and it's races have had to deal with for generations. "Throttle it back" because someone here got uncomfortable with her truth...that's always the excuse when one feels threatened by a POC or woman standing up to white male privilege and entitlement. Give me a break...you talk about rules, like always rules for POC, not for anyone else...that has been borne out here time and again....so I repeat, your word salad is typical BS dressed up to make the poor people here who got offended by her truth, usually THE TRUTH, the victims....BS!!!!
And "she followed thousands of others like her"???? Yeah for generations only silencing has worked against those thousands who have stood against those who know they are the power in this country by virtue of their skin color. So I have no problem with that truth or will I be silenced or run out of town for speaking up in defense of a sister trying to make sense of the white male supremacy dynamic and speaking truth to that power. And how that dynamic must silence those who stand against it and that has always been the answer to those who speak up against.... hasn't it....???? And now given the current political climate, them POC better get silent again, right???
Finally, only "dangerous" in your social construct and dynamic. Not with POC who have to fight the white male supremacy dynamic every damn day.
George II
(67,782 posts)....OP about her currently has 458 replies. Wish I was such a "nobody".
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Go over to ATA and pull a Walt Star.
George II
(67,782 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)to you by...well big plus to you. I'm having so much fun watching the anti-bravnak/POC/outspoken woman crowd outing themselves...much fun Kudos to you...
George II
(67,782 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)cadmium
(1,526 posts)and thousands enjoy her posts and support her. Minimizing her doesn't ring true
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)just want to fuck with her.
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)and she reflects many of the opinions of people here on DU. Sarandon deserves whatever Bravenak dishes out. (And I'm not bashing Dems because Sarandon isn't one... but Bravenak IS.)
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)thread of mine reveals about you? I also wonder what possible relevance it has to this discussion. This is the second time recently that that thread has been brought up. That tells me a lot, whether you are aware of that or not.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I hope we can leave this behind.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Rock on. (Pun intended.)
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)blast me at the same time :>
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)One of the things DU does better than right wing sites is have a more realistic view on conspiracy theories. So when one is suggested, people often reply and say "that's ridiculous". As happened in the post you complained about.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)While on DU, Bravenak was a friend of mine. I understand why she is not here any longer.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Because you have an opinion that you want to express.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Bravenak's profane posts got her in trouble here and on numerous other sites.
She's simply reaping what she has sowed.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)People do it here and all over social media all day long.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)No matter how used to it we are.
It is bleeped out of radio and TV, and obviously the use of it can get you banned.
She made a nine panel photo spread of Sarandon and put "fuck you" all over it. Stupid and childish.
If you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)You know what's profane? Silencing black activists.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)I have said "fuck you" and posted "fuck you" memes on twitter without consequence. I have said "fuck you" and posted "fuck you" memes on facebook without consequence.
You know what's profane? Silencing black activists.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Braving hostility at lunch counters is activism. Taking Freedom Rides is activism. Protesting the Vietnam War surrounded by an armed National Guard is activism. Smuggling Ribavirin into the U.S. during the AIDS epidemic is activism. Climbing up a flagpole in South Carolina to remove the Confederate flag is activism. Driving a car while female in Saudi Arabia is activism.
Sitting safely behind a keyboard flinging shit on Twitter, then playing the victim, is not activism.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)One size does not fit all.
I'll will stand up for her activism over those trying to silence her any day. The attacks in this thread seem to have everything to do with old grudges and zero to do with who Bravenak is or her methods. It's petty and vindictive.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Millions of people "fuck you" their way through Twitter -- are they all activists?
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)You don't have to think of her as an activist. That's your right. But I do. And so do a whole hell of a lot of other people. Many more than are concerned about this little thread that's for sure.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Hey, I'm an activist! (See how ridiculous that is?)
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)I'm a medical activist.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)radical noodle
(8,003 posts)sheshe2
(83,786 posts)97. "Fuck" is profane.
No matter how used to it we are.
It is bleeped out of radio and TV, and obviously the use of it can get you banned.
She made a nine panel photo spread of Sarandon and put "fuck you" all over it. Stupid and childish.
If you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
Will Pitt called the President of the United States a POSUCS. That is "PIECE OF SHIT USED CAR SALESMAN" ended it with "FUCK YOU MR PRESIDENT. FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY SOUL" The crowd roared here, cheered him on and kissed his cheek. 712 comments. Yeah!!!!! OBAMA SUCKS...no need of nine panels, he was given 9 panels a day as some on the left hated on him as much of the right.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)radical noodle
(8,003 posts)it was who she said it to... but you know that. I'm sure happy to know that you don't use profanity. That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)is not very becoming when trying to make another human being, bravenak, less than you. You are pretty obvious, too bad you can't see that....but then again maybe not.....
Cary
(11,746 posts)anytime a black person gets angry, it's profane, especially if it's true, as Braves responses usually were. When a player takes a knee it's 'unameriKKKan'. She is a standup person who speaks her mind, and when certain people here got offended at her truth, they stalked and alerted until the 'uppity' person was gone....you're fooling no one...know where you are coming from. It was all about race, black vs white...as usual we see who won. But for 350 years win is ......
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)To some in this thread, bravenak is some mighty SJW, when she's really just a divisive, potty-mouthed attention-seeker on any social media or message board that will give her a platform.
sweetloukillbot
(11,028 posts)Kind of like saying Democrat Party...
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Embrace the insult and throw it back in their faces.
Doodley
(9,093 posts)cadmium
(1,526 posts)Even if it was by algorithm by alerts. Point is that Sarandon and Sanders lackeys attacked her en masse. They promote Assange's access -- It smells. It may not be a big thing by itself -- but it's big enough not to let them slide without protest
mythology
(9,527 posts)She's a baiter and a troll and that eventually comes with consequences. It's annoying seeing people laud her given she made it clear she thinks many DUers are racist for something as simple as finding Kanye West to be an untalented hack. It's certainly not trashing her.
Why shouldn't people give a more complete picture of who she is?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)when others were permanently banned for much less.
And for those of you who consider her a friend, that's just fine. But she was not a friend to many of us here.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)"twat" against his dickishness toward Beck. And doubling down even after explained to her. That was classic.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And Why Would Anyone Outside of Her Followers Give One Iota If She Was Restricted By Twitter? Heck, Wasn't This Same Individual Removed From D.U. too?
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)which is the current version of banning. She last posted in March, so I doubt she'll be back.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)This is the current version of banning. It's the same as the "old version of banning". This ban went into effect just a few days ago.
About XXX XXX
Statistics and Information
Account status: Posting privileges revoked
Member since: Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:31 AM
Number of posts: 297
Number of posts, last 90 days: 297
Favorite forum: General Discussion, 284 posts in the last 90 days (96% of total posts)
Favorite group: Bernie Sanders, 1 posts in the last 90 days (0% of total posts)
Last post: Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:34 AM
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)Because when I look at her profile I get this:
Account status: Flagged for review
Member since: Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:49 PM
Number of posts: 34,648
Number of posts, last 90 days: 0
Favorite forum: NA
Favorite group: NA
Last post: Thu Mar 9, 2017, 08:26 PM
Did she come back under the same name? If so, it sure didn't take her long to lose posting privileges. As it was, under her original account she was constantly being put in time out.
And even odder is that when I type in her name in the DU search function, I can only get old stuff under that name.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)Bravenak is not banned. She is flagged for review.
You should go back and actually read what I posted. The two links go to profiles that illustrate the difference between a "flagged for review" profile and a "posting privileges revoked" profile.
The first link takes you to Bravenak's profile.
The second link takes you to the profile of a banned user named Cherokee Fiddles. The profile that I copied and pasted into the textbox belongs to former member Cherokee Fiddles.
So it appears that you are mistaken when you assert that FFR is "the current version of banning".
Just so people fully understand that Bravenak is not banned and that FFR is not the "current version of banning", here are the profiles.
Bravenak
Statistics and Information
Account status: Flagged for review
Member since: Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:49 PM
Number of posts: 34,648
Number of posts, last 90 days: 0
Favorite forum: NA
Favorite group: NA
Last post: Thu Mar 9, 2017, 10:26 PM
CherokeeFiddle
Statistics and Information
Account status: Posting privileges revoked
Member since: Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:31 AM
Number of posts: 297
Number of posts, last 90 days: 297
Favorite forum: General Discussion, 284 posts in the last 90 days (96% of total posts)
Favorite group: Bernie Sanders, 1 posts in the last 90 days (0% of total posts)
Last post: Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:34 AM
melman
(7,681 posts)Flagged for months on end and banned are effectively the same.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Response to xxx (Original post)Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:00 PM
Star Member Skinner (63,259 posts)
1. Here's the deal.
Last June we made clear to everyone that we wanted this place to be 1) friendlier, and 2) more supportive of Democrats. Everything we do as administrators is done in pursuit of those two goals. And you know what? This place is friendlier and more supportive of Democrats than it has ever been. We would like it to stay this way.
We frequently go back and review the people who have been flagged for review -- sometimes on our own and sometimes in response to an inquiry -- and each time we ask ourselves, "Will bringing this person back today make Democratic Underground friendlier and more supportive of Democrats?"
If the answer is no (and it usually is) then they stay flagged.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)I know more than one whose account has been flagged for review and apparently those accounts go into never-never land and are never actually reviewed. So for all practical purposes, FFR *is* the current version of banning.
So she came back as CherokeeFiddle?
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)I'm not sure why you've latched onto this particular misreading of my posts. It strikes me as extremely odd.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)She is on no one's importance list.
She's been suspended or banned from numerous sites, according to links I've found here on DU.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)that explains why they're restricting bravenak don't you know?
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)by you, does not make it true....she is somebody...to a lot of people. So your opinion, about her, really means nothing.... Hope your day gets better...
roamer65
(36,745 posts)The "big names" bring in the big bucks on social media, so they will pretty much always rule in the favor of $$$.
Me.
(35,454 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Flinging shit, getting pushback, then crying foul and playing the victim?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)And we all know there's a desperate need for attention... Twitter's the perfect outlet.
Me.
(35,454 posts)That's a real yuk, yuk, yuk......
melman
(7,681 posts)Plus somehow convincing people she's some kind of hero for it.
brush
(53,785 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Bravenak needs more listening and less flapping of gums. I'd suggest she watch the Vietnam series in its entirety and do a little (or lot) of self-refection. She's no victim. Young men sent to die in unnecessary wars and students gunned down on college campuses are victims, not some loudmouth behind a keyboard. I have zero patience with her drama-filled shtick and seems many on social media and various message boards don't either...
brush
(53,785 posts)she claimed would happen once trump was elected?
She got her wish, where is it?
Deal with the issue at hand (say how she hounded Huerta) instead telling someone to watch TV.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Don't spend much time on Twitter, and don't follow Sarandon (or DU's little mouth that roared). I disagree that SS "hounded" Huerta -- she asked questions. It was blown out of proportion in an attempt to disparage Sanders. At least be honest...
brush
(53,785 posts)Sarandon. How many people do you thing stayed home or voted for Stein or wrote in Sanders in the general because of Sarandon's foolish pronouncements?
She just about rooted for trump and the revolution his election would bring.
Unforgivable.
She helped get us trump.
I'm on bravenak's side on this, and her watching TV has nothing to do with it.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)those who insist that Sarandon harassed Huerta. She asked questions, challenged her. I'm well aware of the never-ending anti-Sanders agenda to push, but again, be honest.
brush
(53,785 posts)There's no denying the negative effect Sarandon had on the election.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/susan-sarandon-trump-might-be-better-for-america-than-hillary-clinton
Be honest yourself.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)brush
(53,785 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)were not enough to counter one Susan Sarandon? Seriously? People need to get a grip and accept that maybe, just maybe, it was the candidate. (To anyone with an itchy alert finger: I voted for Hillary in the GE.) Ta-Nehisi Coates stated he was voting for Sanders. Where's the wrath?
We're not going to agree with each other, so time to let it go...
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)HRC had literally hundreds of celebrity endorsements -- many names bigger than SS.
How did SS sink our battleship?
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)the dying Rust Belt don't give a shit about *librul Hollywood* roaring for HRC. But somehow, they believe SS is powerful enough to bring down a presidential campaign.
brush
(53,785 posts)Comey, Putin, Assange, repug vote suppression, election hacks and other repug cheating, third-party Putin tools like Stein and idiot pronouncements from fools like Sarandon rooting for trump on national TV (her second time pulling such crap, she did the same thing against Gore).
It was unprecedented assault on our election where a myriad of forces trained all their efforts to defeat the Democratic Party candidate in order to install trump, and Clinton ran against all of that and still won the popular vote.
Now that we know what happened, to think that the same forces would not have done the same to Sanders is exceedingly naive.
And you still didn't address why you're siding against bravenak on the original issue. It's apparent that you don't like her but come on, she's right about Sarandon.
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)trump is still president... and Sarandon wanted him to win. This affects REAL lives today and everyone that's a Democrat should be furious with Sarandon. It isn't about Bravenak being a victim. It's about all the real victims of the trump presidency.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Well, your bias certainly compels you to cast stones at Brave.
Sacred cows have an odd way of talking us into acting like the lesser of who we are when others don't see our cows as that sacred, divine and righteous... or even just viable candidates
Zero patience, indeed.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)And probably never again here.
At least, not with that user name.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I was just on there and saw several
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)There is nothing wrong with her content. Except.....
Autumn
(45,106 posts)All I saw was her retweeting a tweet sent to her and saying apology accepted. I also saw her fans going after Sarandon. Do some Twtters believe a person can tweet an insult and the other is not supposed to respond? That seems a little snowflake Trumpish to me.
She says fuck you to Sarandon, and then she whines about being a victim when Sarandon responds. I cannot stand Sarandon, but I certainly don't fault her for responding. The more mature thing would have been to ignore it, but no one on Twitter seems to be very mature.
In the other thread, her fans call her a "warrior" , then in the next post a "victim". So silly.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)And before she was FFR here she threatened to have her male relatives beat up people on DU.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes
That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.
Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Well, I'm sure she's loving the attention, but I still find it sad.
Saying "fuck you" to someone is not activism.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)very real possibility of turning people off of very important issues. I saw tweets worthy of Trump in those feeds. Same hateful divisive rhetoric.
This kind of nonsense makes all of us look bad.
I'm very glad that she is no longer associated with DU.
sheshe2
(83,786 posts)Then went on to call him a "piece of shit used car salesman." That writer claims to be an activist as well.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)sheshe2
(83,786 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)sheshe2
(83,786 posts)It is for the ages.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)It changed my life and my opened my eyes to climate change. Every appliance in my home is an energy saving appliance. I had the grass in my yard removed and had it replaced with eco lawn seed in a small area and drought-resistant shrubs and plants. I never use plastic water bottles and I recycle what I can.
sheshe2
(83,786 posts)218. I have his "The Ocean is Coming" bookmarked. The best writing I have ever seen
It changed my life and my opened my eyes to climate change. Every appliance in my home is an energy saving appliance. I had the grass in my yard removed and had it replaced with eco lawn seed in a small area and drought-resistant shrubs and plants. I never use plastic water bottles and I recycle what I can.
.................................
Glad it finally opened your eyes. I have been doing it forever. I own water bottles. Rinse them out and refill...for years and years and years. Glad he finally opened your eyes, sad it did not happen sooner.
mcar
(42,334 posts)And post his articles here. But I guess it's OK for some DUers to support him, just not OK for some DUers to support other members. Why is that, do you suppose?
Yes his article of late was about how dangerous 45 is. Beware! Yet he stated here that he would not vote for Hillary. He tossed his vote away, sadly many did.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Curious.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Given the light of the current topic of discussion, yeah, I'd say hypocrisy is the operative word.
George II
(67,782 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)would be summoned against Sarandon and her Twitter followers. But that's already been done (as well as the mystery letters)... it'll be something new and improved.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Durn!
Seriously, she threatened siccing a "male relative" on someone?
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Autumn posted a link for one -- there may be others.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wasn't there a DUer who promised to track down the writer?
Did I miss the big reveal?
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I just remember calls for the Postmaster General and Homeland Security to get involved.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)I posted a link to one of her posts here when someone claimed it wasn't true that she posted about her relatives tracking down DUers and having a "face to face".
Here is the post I referenced.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)yes, your link is about the relatives. I just skimmed that thread for shits and grins and wow -- there are some other beauts in there about big, bad relatives!
Autumn
(45,106 posts)It's all good . That twitter feed and some of the comments are hilarious.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Reminds me of elementary school, when kids would say they were gonna get their "big brother" to come beat up classmates.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)the site owners seem to be stressing in "be civil" and "you take your chances." You can't take your chances, then cry foul and play the victim. Un-huh.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)trying to get her shut down. She described their trolling behavior exactly and even predicted it. It's obvious why you keep intentionally distorting this.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)she needs to look in a mirror.
We're done. Off to binge on Broadchurch.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)follow her.
You've proven her right, again. She nailed it -- Susan Sarandon sic'ed her Twitter trolls on her. You keep validating bravenak...
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)bravenak's OP? The common denominator looks to be an obsession with her personally -- because of who she opposes.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Context would be helpful when accusing someone of criminal conduct...
Autumn
(45,106 posts)bravenak (34,648 posts)
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes
That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.
Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)She was not threatening anyone in particular.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)Others see it different than you .
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes
That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.
Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)But that does not make her statement about intending to defend herself against harassers a threat to beat up anyone, let alone any particular person posting on DU.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I gotta dig up that post...
Autumn
(45,106 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)But there's an agenda to push and push they will...
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)Twice. Now for the the third time.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes
That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.
Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)sheshe2
(83,786 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)it in my sig line. It's a tribute to him, his wisdom and his gentle humor.
sheshe2
(83,786 posts)Response to Autumn (Reply #270)
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Autumn
(45,106 posts)Skinner is usually right.
melman
(7,681 posts)Someone might invent 'harassers' in order to justify their own behavior.
Hypothetically of course. Just saying a thing like that could happen.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Are we still believing that?
Social media activism can be dangerous when it becomes attention-seeking, like they believe they've attained celebrity status or something. I'd advise her to just disconnect from the internet for a while and get some perspective on life.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)a lot less had any belief or sympathy for her.There are screenshots of a couple of the messages posted in the Twitter feed.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I know about the ones she *supposedly* received from a *supposed* Bernie fan. (No agenda there, eh?!)
Meh. "Poldark" starts in 4 minutes. Maybe I'll check the Twitter feed afterwards...
melman
(7,681 posts)I never did. I think many saw that for what it really was, but saying so was a ticket to an instant hide at the time.
George II
(67,782 posts)Nowhere does she say anything about anyone being beaten up and nowhere does she say anything about any relatives.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)but that's no link to Sarandon having her fans attack anyone. None of you have a link to Sarandon having people go after the perpetually FFR B because it doesn't exist.
Bravenak genius ? I wouldn't call her a genius, there are many other adjective that fit her much, much better.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)And she's obviously very effective. Very effective, indeed.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)person having other people on Twitter attacking poor innocent brav is pulled out of thin air. Throw shit you might just get splattered.
Classic persecution complex. It's almost Trumpish.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Not the other way around.
Her September 26, 2017 entry...genius.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)I'm a big believer in when a person shows you what they are, believe them. She showed many times what she is. Here, Kos. redd it and other places where she has been banned or suspended.
Some people just don't play well with others .
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Here or in other places. Lots of other places, even.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Maybe those other people haven't resorted to posting "fuck you" collages on top of other twitter user's photos.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:58 PM - Edit history (2)
Takket
(21,575 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)tritsofme
(17,379 posts)Some people are really out there...
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I was wondering why.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)There is nothing wrong with her content -- in fact, it's too good. Apparently.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)a double offense.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)What gets lost in the discussions of Bravenek herself, ignores the very racism she was subjected to. Because of her being a strong black woman. I am completely disgustedagainby the deliberate skewing of whats actually happening by Sarandon fans. Here on DU, as always, I consider the source. I really think that every white person who considers themselves progressive needs to examine their responses to issues pertaining to race. Once that examination is done do it again. And again. And again. No black friends or children, or spouses or experiences with the black community, no distant ancestor that was raped in this country and gave a drop of black blood down the line, Nothing saves white People from racism-as-ideology except deep and painful self reflection and self examination. And Growth. And Love.
Despite the thread titles, what happened is Bravenek called out Sarandonand she is by no means the only oneand because that moron Sarandon decided to give it attention Bravenek received many racist comments. There is no way in hell she is going to stand for that.
The worst thing is, This happens to all Black women with a voice. From Joy Reid to Michelle Obama to local women on TV, to my next door neighbor. All. Of. Them.
This bothers me, this disturbs me to the point of incoherence. There are voices here who, in a petty manner, want to run Bravenek downhere, again, I consider the source, but it does bother me. What bothers me more is when they give the briefest of lip service to the real problem of racism in the progressive community.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)cadmium
(1,526 posts)Bravenak is not posting "yes sir" "yes ma'am" she is posting her truths and it makes bernibros rage
Agree completely.
sheshe2
(83,786 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)There is something about certain types of people speaking out which they can't stand. There is a 'stay in your place ' type of thing to it.
How dare those black men not stand. How dare the Latina speak against me.
Remember, these are the people who felt oppressed for not being able to call hillary the c word.
So we know it's not about use of profanity.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Your comments.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Most of the DUers who used to post in the African-American Group have left this site. That Group is now dead. Why? Well...
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)It shows you have a conscious.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)radical noodle
(8,003 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Black women, and black men too, don't have the luxury of showing emotion at the cruelty they face every day from us white folks. If they do, they are hounded into silence.
My reaction to reading these threads about her on DU, though? My first thought at seeing all those pearl clutchers who tuttut at Bravenak's meme, which she didn't send to Sarandon, but shared among her twitter list (of whom I am one) is that she should have called Sarandon a "piece of shit used car salesman" and told her to "fuck herself with a brick" - many of the naysayers on these thread supported calling actual Democrats that with gusto....
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Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Shaming, discounting, silencing. Bad enough for women with voices who wish to be heard. Doubly so for black women who speak out. The racist streak in the "progressive" community is why I've rejected it. It is that same mindset evoked by Sarandon and her followers. I have heard no denouncements or apologies of those comments by any "progressive." I must assume that these "progressives" are in agreement.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)Something that isn't always well received by the public at large. I didn't say that well, but if I had written what I was thinking....
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)We're just not allowed to post it, because alert-swarming.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I'm not a member of JPR, never have been, and have never even visited. Nice try to make this about the primaries in some weird way.
JPR are a bunch of sad losers in my mind. I've been a Hillary supporter from day one. I CANNOT stand Bernie.
Somehow, if I don't worship this silly little fool who curses out famous people on the internet, I am one of them?
But calling names shows how weak your position is here.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I remember you.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I think you meant something other than how weak your position is here.
You dont know me, and have no reason to believe me, and I accept that, but I will tell that my position here is not on my list of concerns at all.
Racism is what is concerning me.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)We're on the same side on that.
Sorry, I know you were not attacking me. There are just so many ad hominem attacks on posters here if they disagree with whatever the narrative might be on any given day.
sheshe2
(83,786 posts)He called the President a "Piece of Shit Used Car Salesman"...then went on to say "F**k You Mr President From the Bottom of My Soul." Then doubled down on his apology thread.
I never saw the same people here condemning him as they do bravenak.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)If I had, I would have said the same about him.
I don't like him; he is a pompous ass in my opinion.
melman
(7,681 posts)He's an asshole but that has nothing to do with this.
sheshe2
(83,786 posts)And I think it has much to do about this thread...some of the same posters criticizing bravenak applauded him. That thread had 719 responses. I have no clue what the 'apology' thread got...will not waste my time looking it up.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)stand up people these days that offend the shit out of the likes of the Sarandon's, trolls, stalkers she has had to face because she speaks her mind. Civility does not work anymore for any POC standing up to the racist whites out there and in many of these internet forums..,..if a POC doesn't respond like many feel they should, they are either the new/old 'uppity' negro or a profane negro....fuck Sarandon and all who are on her boat....go Bravenak ...feet to the fire is all they understand...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)....but Bravenak is hardly above reproach.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)that bravenak, by saying, "Fuck you Sarandon" to her friends, was "bullying" but they don't seem to care about the racist, sexist swill that got tossed back at her by Sarandon's creepy minions.
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)To have a random person band on Twitter?
More importantly what is the going rate to have a major political figure banned from Twitter? I might want to start a GoFundMe.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)After all, she was also suspended here before.
Maybe it's a conspiracy and the FBI needs it to get to the bottom of it. .
Me.
(35,454 posts)revmclaren
(2,524 posts)But because of the rampant Russian propaganda on JPR, they will definitely be examining posters there. The investigation may spill over here because of posters who are posting at both sites. They do have bigger fish in Facebook and Twitter at the moment but it will happen.
The Mueller team is very meticulous.
rock
(13,218 posts)Especially the 2nd, they didn't mean Bravenak! (Yes, extreme )
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)What a world what a world!!
I can't count! OK, first?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Especially pre election, if you looked to see all the tweets mentioning HRC, Obama, Kerry, etc you saw a HUGE number of retweets of Wikileaks related comments- as well as many tweets identically worded - probably from bots.
There were many times where I disagreed with Bravenak on issues, but it was completely obvious that she was a real person, who shared enough of who she was here to be credible. Her responses were never just repeats from someone else. Did they give any explanation of why she was restricted?
Was she simply restricted from reading and responding to tweets from Sarandon, Trump and Sanders? If it were that, I think that anyone can do that type of blocking. I suspect that it might be more useful for public figures, who do not have the desire or time to respond to the people responding to their tweets. Given the nature of many tweets, all public figures (other than Scott Brown) likely see that they do not want to get into a 140 character a tweet discussion with anonymous people.
By the way,
RainCaster
(10,883 posts)So what? I know he is one of us, but really. If we all get our undies in a twist every time Twitter does something fucked up, we might as well just go have a drink. Have another if you think Trump is "not normal". Damn there goes my liver.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Bravenak is a she.
ananda
(28,866 posts)I bet a lot of Twitter's money comes from Russia.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Facebook too once it started to catch on. They're both as complicit as the rest of the media, protests of innocence notwithstanding
Oneironaut
(5,501 posts)It's a constant annoyance on both sites. I don't know how they can, but it's an effective method troll armies use to silence people.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)JDC
(10,129 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)I'm being repressed!
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)But soon...very soon....
It will be Mueller time! And it will be glorious!
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)I'm not feeling all that repressed right now.
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)and its repression of the average Americans rights...Really!
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)from having a twitter account under review.
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)But some seem to be VERY invested in the fate of an activist on Twitter that they don't even support.
Just saying...
Have a great day now.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)that brought us Donald Trump.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)lapucelle
(18,268 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)"Going after" certain demographics is not appropriate.
She likely broke the rules then.
Rob H.
(5,351 posts)...how clicking "Accept" to signify one will abide by the terms and conditions of a social media site actually requires a person to acknowledge the clear and perfectly reasonable rules set forth by the site owners and agree to follow them or risk getting ejected, amirite?
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)500,000 Rohingya have fled the Myanmar military after being targeted for ethnic cleansing. Babies thrown to the ground and having their throats cut, women mass raped and murdered. The media is not allowed access because pictures of dead bodies would make Mynmar look genocidal. All of this is happening because the Rohingya are a different ethnicity.
They're martyrs, not bravenak. This forum just thrives on drama but ignores real issues. I don't even bother posting a thread about it since it will just sink to the bottom like all the other threads with 0-6 recs.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141864006
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113320424
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113320317
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)And you're very correct about our priorities here.
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betsuni
(25,537 posts)Behold, the power of bravenak.
melman
(7,681 posts)Not one person.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)Duh.
romanic
(2,841 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)I was banned for a week after attacking Sarah Huckabee and her daddy.
Money has nothing to do with the upgrade in Twitter characters. lol
They upgraded my account- From what I have seen its mostly longterm users that have been given an upgrade. Almost all of my followers from 2009 have been given 250 characters.
Voltaire2
(13,056 posts)Banned from posting on Du. twitter, and reddit.
So basically this person does not last long on social media that has controls to suppress flaming and trolling. So it could be a) that there is a vast conspiracy to get this poster booted off of social media sites, or it could be that b) this person does not follow the rules.
I'm not familiar with the poster in question, but I have to go with 'b'.
George II
(67,782 posts)Voltaire2
(13,056 posts)And my understanding is that "flagged for review" is a more or less permanent state.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:52 AM - Edit history (1)
I don't post much any more. i do come by daily to read. I left late last summer as the forums took ever nastier turns, then I was gone even longer due to a serious illness. I generally have tried to keep my disagreements as civil as I can and will hold my ground when I hold a strong viewpoint.
Bravenak is my friend. Like her, I started off liking Sanders but he gradually lost me and for some of the same reasons Brave and others chose other candidates. I articulated what was missing for me and I still hold that view. It is a person's right to do so.
It is also a person's right to defend themselves when set upon as Brave did when she had enough. I left rather than subject myself to over the top hostility and abuse. Brave was expelled. Agree with her or not, Brave stands on a fault line on the left, unflinchingly points to it, and demands that we recognize it as a blind spot. It is a fault line which has been opening to swallow too many since the election. For that, she has my admiration.
Sarandon has used her fame to the detriment of millions by throwing her support in the general election behind Trump, who stands in opposition to every value the left holds dear. There is no nobility of purpose to such a destructive act. Trump has played footsy with an adversary and threatened our national security and elections. He has given Nazis and KKK power and is institutionalizing their ideologies. Every nonwhite person, nonChristian, LGBTQ person, and female is now at risk to be assaulted, imprisoned, or otherwise mistreated. He has also turned government into a personal piggy bank for himself and his cronies. He has taken us all to the brink of a nuclear world war while tearing apart every agreement we have been a party to. For these reasons, Sarandon has neither my admiration or respect. If you do not recognize the fault line by now, as Sarandon obviously does not, you are part of the problem.
Our nation is in serious trouble now in hundreds of ways. I don't think Brave is one of them.
sheshe2
(83,786 posts)This should be an OP all on it's own. All of it!
This part touched my heart,
Thank you and tears that some just don't understand this.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)As you said, this nation is in danger -- not from Bravenak cursing at Susan Sarandon -- but from the people who are now in charge of our nation's government and putting us on the brink of a nuclear World War III that might obliterate us all. We have bigger fish to fry, IMO, than picking Bravenak apart when she's not even here to defend herself.
brer cat
(24,574 posts)Sarandon was a big part of the problem; Bravenak stood up for those who would be hurt most by the idiot Sarandon was trying to unleash on the world just so she could play revolutionary. Unfortunately for Bravenak, many people would like to kill the messenger rather than contemplate the message.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)You are so totally correct. Such eloquence and insight. "set upon", that really nails it, too, as it was very apparent.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)herding cats
(19,565 posts)We need more voices like yours here.
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)I'm sure Twitter will let her back on after review.
I suspect she'll be back on DU, too, someday.
malaise
(269,045 posts)Maybe Twitter should restrict the Con
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I have had my understanding of the anti-bravenak crowd here updated.....she's not profane, or a nobody or will she be silenced by the majority of people who hate her because she puts the truth about white privileged and entitled ameriKKKa out there. Many have 'outed' themselves, putting understanding of hate for Bravenak in clear and concise perspective, racially...thanks..
brer cat
(24,574 posts)She is certainly a thorn in the side of the sanctimonious crew.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)that poor susan was wronged, and the disgusting racist and sexist spew from her followers was of no account at all.
I also love how those who are so concerned about decency - which to them equals not saying "Fuck you" to a public figure on twitter - think nothing of piling on someone who can't defend herself.
I can't believe how ugly this is.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)the ugliness here. I see, and have been updated in seeing a lot of people here for who they really are. Sarandon is a fucking idiot, but because of who she is, a movie star with white supremacist views, she is the victim if a POC calls her out on her racism and stupidity. He ain't my president and anyone for him is against every POC in the world, whether they admit it or whether they are consciously aware of their stupidity, racism and ignorance. Which, quiet as it's kept, a lot can't get that deep in understanding just who they are. Not a fucking clue.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)If so, we don't give two flying f's about Bravenek or her Twitter ban when an Insane, Sadistic Person is in the White House. #DealWithIt
heaven05
(18,124 posts)"one flying fuck" about how those on here with negative comments about Bravenak feel, Inconsequential is the operative word/feeling here on the 'victim's' of Bravenak's truth on white privileged, racist society. Not one flying fuck...understand? You anti-bravenak people outed yourself, I didn't have to do a thing. No threats to make you do it, no cajoling, you did it yourself... didn't have to do a thing...
Squinch
(50,955 posts)is and accuse the poster of threatening you.
But what a terrific way to manufacture drama and to vilify someone unfairly. I'm sure it won't be the last time I see it.
Honestly wondering how low people are going to go with this nonsense. Congrats on exceeding expectations!
snowybirdie
(5,229 posts)Seeing this over and over again?
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Thanks....
Squinch
(50,955 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I have been a member before. Since 2004. My information was lost in the attack and whatever email I signed up under I long ago forgot.
Thanks for your interest.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Pretty funny, actually.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)that Sarandon contributed to taking the nation down. I have no respect for her. None.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)sic'ed her trolls on her. That was exactly Bravenak's point about Sarandon's "two simple words."
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)and didn't resort to profanity or name-calling after Bravenak tried to be cute with her "fuck Sarandon" images. Two clever little words, outmaneuvering Bravenak (which she didn't like, cried foul, then played the victim per usual). Twitter is nothing but trolls, and SS and Bravenak followers went at each other - it's how the game is played.
"You take your chances," as Skinner has said. Bravenak took her chances on Twitter (and DU, for that matter) and it came back to bite her in the ass. But it's what she wants -- attention -- so brav-o, grrrrrl. Mission accomplished.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)and you obviously agree with her because you are explaining it exactly as she described, lol. "Twitter is nothing but trolls" "It's how the game is played." That's EXACTLY what Bravenak was describing.
Susan Sarandon is a foul-mouthed internet troll with a following of trolls who attack people who dare to say anything about certain Senators. We all see what is happening. Following her to Twitter and elsewhere is the "game." It doesn't mean anything about Bravenak except that she is being targeted because she is obviously too effective with her messaging. Looks to me like she is the one "outmaneuvering" all her trolls.
Here's Susan being foul-mouthed:
Here's Susan trolling for Ralph Nader. Such a nasty troll she is -- wrong 100% of the time!
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)We know how she plays the game -- saw it first-hand on DU -- so, seriously, don't bother. She was outwitted and didn't like it.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)"Fuck them".* Then she was harassed by Sarandon's trolls. We have seen it before, not just with Susan Sarandon. She was trolled to try and shut her down. That's the "game" you stated in your previous post. Looks like you know a lot about the "game" since you mentioned it and know it in detail. Looks like Bravenak has your number.
All your obsession with this is proving is exactly what she described -- people are following her to harass her.
*Here's Sarandon's foul-mouthed comment that was turned around on her:
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)God Bless the fan club!
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)outside of here means you are part of her fan club.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)you try to make things about me instead of the obsession with bravenak and where she posts on the internet?
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)by trying to make it about me by suggesting that I'm obsessed with the "brave" one. I guess the next step is for one of us to cry foul and play the victim, like the master.
Like with Drumpf, I want her to keep posting. It's always entertaining when perpetually wrong loudmouths are set straight. Entertaining, but not enough for me to become active on Twitter -- the occasional tweet shared here at DU is enough of the drama.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)You obviously care very deeply about what bravenak says and where or whether she is punished for it, so she obviously has your number. She explained that the Twitter trolls would be coming for her, and she was right about that. You just confirmed here that you like to see her "set straight", so you admit again your pleasure in bravenak being followed. You just keep confirming with your own words about your interest in bravenak.
And she didn't "cry foul" -- that is just more intentional distortion.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)Seems like everyone here is pretty happy about that.
Very telling.
Have you ever written anything to the effect of "Fuck you Donald Trump"? And if you did, did people come after you about your race and your gender with some really disgusting tweets? Did they insult your family and threaten your safety? And if they did, do you support the fact that they did that?
Yeah. Try justifying this without tying yourself in a knot. I'm really eager to watch.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)racist and sexist pile-ons, and I tend to avoid such a toxic environment. Let's face it, good ol' "Brave" has made social media enemies with her anti-Semitic and yay-old-white-men-are-dying-off comments (not to mention the phony hate mail and big, bad male relative coming to her rescue (always the damsel in distress!). She and her followers need to understand that if she's going to fling shit, it's going to be flung back... she's in NO position to cry foul and play victim.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)response to Bravenak. Because, hey, vile racism and sexism are OK when you don't like their target, amiright?
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)distorted is the reason for trolls following her. You keep validating her observations that she is being trolled to shut her up.
She was also quoted recently in an article about Clinton's voters--guess you missed it. Further proof her views are mainstream.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)supporting heartless entitled check your privilege B rated actress who wants a revolution to add meaning to her empty stupid life...go away Susan...just go away.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Bravenak had to be brave. And will never be anything less than awesome.
'nuf said.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)Her post saying fuck Susan Sarandon was on her feed, but didn't @ Sarandon. It was some lame ass hater or troll who brought it to Sarandon's attention and then SS brought it to the attention of her horde. Who then went on the attack against Bravenak with a vengeance.
Fuck Susan Sarandon and fuck her horde of Twitter idiots. Bravenak will be back posting shortly and all they've managed to do is give her more attention and a larger following on Twitter. What a bunch of stupid, ineffective, idiot trolls.
George II
(67,782 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Maybe it's not the world against Bravenak, maybe it's Bravenak against the world (badly).
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Amazing they cannot see how she causes her own troubles.
Guess she's gonna need a new screen name.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Fixed it for you'.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)But because I connect with family and animal/environmental rights activists through fb I'm still there.