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cadmium

(1,526 posts)
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:37 PM Oct 2017

Bravenak restricted by twitter

Bravenak---After going after Berniebros, Trump, and especially Susan Sarandon (with her army of sycophants) Twitter banned our old colleague for a week. Meanwhile, they keep Assange and upgrade him to 250 characters

I think there is something suspicious going on and probably money involved --Why? because their revenue and stock last quarter were terrible--It is possible that they have nefarious non-share holding donors. I'm just speculating but why does Sarandon & gang slide - while Bravenak is punished and Assange promoted (into the selected 250 character clique)?

I'd like to see Mueller includes their finances in his investigation

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Bravenak restricted by twitter (Original Post) cadmium Oct 2017 OP
Not fucking cool shenmue Oct 2017 #1
Racist. I can't believe she and others are banned here. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #107
Are you suggesting the admin at DU are racist? ornotna Oct 2017 #179
That's the kind of "unity" she brings out in people. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #196
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #281
oh let's be fucking serious here Blue_Adept Oct 2017 #2
Why on Earth Would It Matter to You? MineralMan Oct 2017 #5
I'm not trashing her Blue_Adept Oct 2017 #8
My question stands. MineralMan Oct 2017 #12
Because it's the same usual bullshit of people getting all outraged over something Blue_Adept Oct 2017 #15
I comprehend alert stalking. The alert stalking of Bravenak is shameful. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #24
"Alert stalking". It's the same thing that happened here. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #28
I've had it happen to me several times for calling out Nazis on Twitter. 6000eliot Oct 2017 #80
Exactly. R B Garr Oct 2017 #81
Yup. cwydro Oct 2017 #98
I agree with Blue. cwydro Oct 2017 #19
Why does it matter to you? MineralMan Oct 2017 #22
Why not just let people post stuff and leave it at that? Blue_Adept Oct 2017 #26
Nailed It. SixString Oct 2017 #45
Well they certainly nailed avoiding the question. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #54
That's usually happens when there is not a good answer, or an embarrassing one. nt fleabiscuit Oct 2017 #290
Perfect. (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2017 #58
You hit that right on the head. Autumn Oct 2017 #94
Thank you. Nt cwydro Oct 2017 #101
Isn't this a discussion board? cwydro Oct 2017 #33
Bravenak is a DU friend of mine. MineralMan Oct 2017 #36
All right, I can respect that. cwydro Oct 2017 #52
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #146
I see. Oddly enough, I don't believe I've ever noticed your MineralMan Oct 2017 #148
I'm a lurker Piasladic Oct 2017 #150
Yes. That's apparent. Again, though, MineralMan Oct 2017 #151
Here's what I think is interesting melman Oct 2017 #154
I did not say those words are acceptable. MineralMan Oct 2017 #155
Ha! melman Oct 2017 #152
Ya it kinda is. Here. nt fleabiscuit Oct 2017 #292
Starting over is so hard to do n/t radical noodle Oct 2017 #308
Yes, it's a discussion board, so why are you opposed to discussion of Bravenak? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #59
I'm not in the least opposed to discussion of bravenak. cwydro Oct 2017 #68
You did not appear "amused" at all. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #73
I said she is not important in the Twitterverse. cwydro Oct 2017 #103
Bravenak is not "a nobody," but obviously many would like to silence her. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #113
Lol. cwydro Oct 2017 #122
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." SunSeeker Oct 2017 #135
She's a nobody here pintobean Oct 2017 #139
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #145
And, she's burning through venues pintobean Oct 2017 #149
Well, she does appear to have quite an alert stalker following. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #153
Alerts don't mean shit pintobean Oct 2017 #156
There is no "jury" on Twitter. Alert stalking does indeed have an affect. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #157
she will always heaven05 Oct 2017 #236
She was silenced. pintobean Oct 2017 #255
BS heaven05 Oct 2017 #313
That's interesting. For a "nobody here" this OP about her has 293 replies and another..... George II Oct 2017 #295
First things first, georgie pintobean Oct 2017 #305
WTF is that supposed to mean? And it's GEORGE, not georgie. George II Oct 2017 #328
a really disrespectful post heaven05 Oct 2017 #331
Thank you. Very surprising now to now see how many "didn't know" Bravenak is a black woman. George II Oct 2017 #332
win what? snooper2 Oct 2017 #335
She has large following cadmium Oct 2017 #131
Could be thousands of her Twitter followers... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #229
Bravenak does more than that radical noodle Oct 2017 #307
I wonder if you know what mentioning that particular old MineralMan Oct 2017 #64
It tells me that we all have judgmental tendencies. cwydro Oct 2017 #71
That depends, really. MineralMan Oct 2017 #74
Whatever, dude. cwydro Oct 2017 #88
Bravenak is a friend of mine also. We agree on very little, But I defend her right to say it and LiberalArkie Oct 2017 #240
Because the OP is trying to start a conspiracy theory? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #34
Exactly, and just by way of the concerned responses here prove bravenak right. nt R B Garr Oct 2017 #39
Yes, but I'm going to drop this now. MineralMan Oct 2017 #43
why don't YOU let people post stuff and leave it at that? virtualobserver Oct 2017 #105
Exactly this. Kentonio Oct 2017 #132
Sounds to me like you're jealous. Cary Oct 2017 #20
No one is jealous. cwydro Oct 2017 #27
Saying fuck you to a public figure is not profanity. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #35
"Fuck" is profane. cwydro Oct 2017 #97
Fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #223
Now say "fuck you" several times to a fellow DU member and see what that gets you. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #225
Lol. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #228
Be a rebel. Post the same graphic to SS. Show us how it's done!! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #233
Posting "fuck you" memes is not activism. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #246
There are many types of activism. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #260
And Bravenak posting "fuck you" memes on Twitter isn't one. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #265
I don't accept that just because you say so. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #267
"Fuck Drumpf!" SMC22307 Oct 2017 #269
Fuck gout!!! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #278
! SMC22307 Oct 2017 #280
I'm with you MrsCoffee n/t radical noodle Oct 2017 #312
I said this to you once and will do it again. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #274
+1 betsuni Oct 2017 #285
Not on cable. nt fleabiscuit Oct 2017 #294
It wasn't what she said radical noodle Oct 2017 #311
false civility heaven05 Oct 2017 #336
How convenient. Cary Oct 2017 #92
yeah heaven05 Oct 2017 #224
Bravenak is no Colin Kaepernick. (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2017 #250
A swing and a whiff. nt fleabiscuit Oct 2017 #296
Nope. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #302
You know SJW is a right wing insult, don't you? sweetloukillbot Oct 2017 #322
"Pits and Perverts." SMC22307 Oct 2017 #348
I'm not seeing where you trashed her. Doodley Oct 2017 #56
It's not something to let slide cadmium Oct 2017 #121
Because some of us remember how she behaved here. Pretending that she is some sweet innocent mythology Oct 2017 #89
Yes. I recall her quite clearly. She got time out after time out and was still allowed to return PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #133
And not understanding Scot Shirley Manson's use of... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #204
This Right Here..... LovingA2andMI Oct 2017 #10
No lapucelle Oct 2017 #32
Her account has been flagged for review, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #134
No lapucelle Oct 2017 #169
That's odd. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #206
You're misreading my posts. lapucelle Oct 2017 #212
What's the difference? melman Oct 2017 #219
Yep Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #222
Flagged for review and you can't post. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #268
What are you talking about? lapucelle Oct 2017 #325
Exactly. cwydro Oct 2017 #13
Yeah but twitter had a bad quarter woolldog Oct 2017 #16
Stop making me weep for critical thinking Blue_Adept Oct 2017 #23
... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #46
. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #62
Minimizing her heaven05 Oct 2017 #226
All about $$$. roamer65 Oct 2017 #3
And Still She Persists Me. Oct 2017 #4
THIS sheshe2 Oct 2017 #9
Persists at what? SMC22307 Oct 2017 #48
Maybe posting in the comments section of the local Penny Saver? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #72
Doesn't garner enough attention. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #78
OH Now Me. Oct 2017 #108
Exactly this melman Oct 2017 #100
Exactly Owl Oct 2017 #118
I for one am glad she flung some shit at Sarandon, one of the ones responsible for trump brush Oct 2017 #144
Offering up "fuck yous" to a celebrity means nothing. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #190
Uh-oh, sounds like a Sarandon supporter talking. I say fuck Sarandon too. Where's the revolution... brush Oct 2017 #257
Sounds like you'd be wrong. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #258
Our opinion of it is different. I watched the video. Why the hell are you defending... brush Oct 2017 #262
Your attempt to portray me as "defending" Sarandon is as dishonest as... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #276
As I said, our opinions differ. But that aside, why are you taking sides against bravenak in this? brush Oct 2017 #286
Not nearly as much as an effect as Molly Ringwald. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #287
Not discussing her. brush Oct 2017 #288
Good!! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #289
Bill Clinton, the Obamas, Beyonce & Jay-Z, Clooney, Katy Perry, DeNiro, DiCaprio, et al... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #301
That's what I could never figure out. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #309
Good question. Salon-goers must understand by now that voters living in... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #347
We just disagreed all around. It wasn't the candidate. brush Oct 2017 #315
Vietnam is over radical noodle Oct 2017 #316
Well, your bias certainly compels you to cast stones at Brave. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #334
Exactly. And her Sept. 26th entry addresses another one....... R B Garr Oct 2017 #207
Hear Hear! Chasstev365 Oct 2017 #283
Not for six days pintobean Oct 2017 #77
I see tweets from her treestar Oct 2017 #6
Yeah, this looks like a Twitter alert swarm gone awry. R B Garr Oct 2017 #21
It there a link where Susan Sarandon sics her fans on that person? Autumn Oct 2017 #7
Bingo. cwydro Oct 2017 #25
I can't figure out how posting hate filled screeds on Twitter equals activism. Autumn Oct 2017 #31
Yes indeed. cwydro Oct 2017 #37
It is sad. When people who claim to be activist's act like that it has the Autumn Oct 2017 #49
I know. cwydro Oct 2017 #106
How did you respond when a poster said..and I quote "F**K You Mr. President?" sheshe2 Oct 2017 #159
That turned a lot of people off his cause if you remember.nt Autumn Oct 2017 #160
You didn't answer my question. nt sheshe2 Oct 2017 #201
I won't either. I'm not the one under discussion in this thread. nt Autumn Oct 2017 #205
Ah. nt sheshe2 Oct 2017 #209
DU has a search function .nt Autumn Oct 2017 #210
Oh I have that one book marked. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #213
I have his "The Ocean is Coming" bookmarked. The best writing I have ever seen Autumn Oct 2017 #218
I have always recycled. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #263
And some here still support and follow him mcar Oct 2017 #200
Umhmmm. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #208
He just figured that out? mcar Oct 2017 #211
With hypocrisy I believe it was. Amimnoch Oct 2017 #259
Where did she do that? George II Oct 2017 #61
Ha, I was wondering if the "male relative"... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #66
I must have missed that one. cwydro Oct 2017 #110
It wasn't too long after "the letters," IIR. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #127
I remember the "letter". cwydro Oct 2017 #129
If there was a big reveal I missed it, too. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #199
No, the screen shots of a couple of "the letters" she sent DUers are posted in the Twitter feed Autumn Oct 2017 #195
My post wasn't clear... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #227
I thought my post may have been misunderstood when you mentioned the word "letters " Autumn Oct 2017 #232
Yep, all good! (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2017 #239
#601 and 617 in the toxic (but rather amusing) thread below... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #221
That's hilarious. cwydro Oct 2017 #344
I know. LOL And a perfect example of what... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #346
It's also a perfect example of what bravenak described about Twitter trolls R B Garr Oct 2017 #361
LOL DU, Kos, Twitter... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #363
All you've proven is that she uses the same screen name and the trolls R B Garr Oct 2017 #365
Why do you suppose no one commented about the actual contents of R B Garr Oct 2017 #358
Got a link to Bravenak threatening "to have her male relatives beat up people on DU"? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #70
Here's one. There were a few others. Posted, here at DU to DUers. Autumn Oct 2017 #75
That's what I thought. She is talking about defending herself from harassers. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #82
You got your link, I have no intention of diagramming or parsing her actual words. . Autumn Oct 2017 #87
I'm sure Bravenak's alert stalkers would agree with you... SunSeeker Oct 2017 #93
Skinner in ATA made a point that it's very easy to not get FFR or have hidden posts. Just be civil. Autumn Oct 2017 #99
Didn't Skinner also say there was no alert stalking? SMC22307 Oct 2017 #114
Yes he did say that in ATA at one time. Autumn Oct 2017 #115
"We see no evidence that this is happening." SMC22307 Oct 2017 #253
That's more than once. Autumn Oct 2017 #272
Yep! SMC22307 Oct 2017 #277
You mean like don't accuse specific DUers of commiting a crime? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #116
You have a problem with what I said ,alert on that post. I gave you the link to back up what I said, Autumn Oct 2017 #125
Posting that same link three times does not make it support your accusation. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #128
I see a lot off interpretation of your sig line. nt sheshe2 Oct 2017 #261
I do love our H2O MAN. I loved it when he posted it and he graciously allowed me to put Autumn Oct 2017 #270
As I said. I see a lot off interpretation of your sig line. nt sheshe2 Oct 2017 #275
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #293
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #138
No the civil comment came from Skinner. I can't take credit for that. Autumn Oct 2017 #143
On the other hand melman Oct 2017 #119
"Justfy" what "behavior"? Bravenak did not get anyone "beat up." nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #126
Wait, isn't she the one who said something was sent to her in the mail? LittleBlue Oct 2017 #187
After some of the letters she sent to people here were revealed Autumn Oct 2017 #193
Wait, she sent letters? Now I'm confused! SMC22307 Oct 2017 #256
I'm certainly not believing it melman Oct 2017 #198
Where in that does she "threatened to have her male relatives beat up people on DU"? George II Oct 2017 #271
Yeah, here's a link about the fan's reactions: R B Garr Oct 2017 #76
Where is Saradon's tweet sicing her fans on that twitter? You point to a fan of B's here Autumn Oct 2017 #83
This thread and your posts are an example of the concerned fans. R B Garr Oct 2017 #86
I'm not a fan of either idiot or their supporters. So all this shit about her having some famous Autumn Oct 2017 #90
Actually, it looks like Brave is the one doing the splattering... R B Garr Oct 2017 #95
I don't do twitter and if I did I wouldn't follow her to read her September 26, 2017 entry. Autumn Oct 2017 #96
There is nothing wrong with not being a Bernie fan. R B Garr Oct 2017 #102
No there is not. Anyone can dislike any politician. nt Autumn Oct 2017 #104
this obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #91
Boo Hoo jalan48 Oct 2017 #11
Lol. It's a conspiracy!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #14
Since when is saying fuck you to a public figure a ban-worthy offense on Twitter? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #29
Yesterday? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #44
Apparently for Bravenak. But not for anyone else that I'm aware of. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #50
how do you know she is banned? she was tweeting as recently as yesterday Takket Oct 2017 #17
WTF?. Seriously? That is so fucked up. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #18
Wouldnt this thread be better for Creative Speculation? tritsofme Oct 2017 #30
Dang, you win the thread! cwydro Oct 2017 #38
I also got upgraded to 250 Generic Other Oct 2017 #40
What is it about Bravenek that brings out all the JPR trolls? ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #41
Seriously! That's all this is... R B Garr Oct 2017 #47
+1 SunSeeker Oct 2017 #51
Oh, whatever can you mean? MineralMan Oct 2017 #55
Yep, nailed it. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #63
She is a strong black woman who won't back down and a Hillary supporter. For JPR types that's stevenleser Oct 2017 #65
Yep. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #85
You know what bothers me the most? ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #124
+ 1,000,000. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #141
That is the core of the issue cadmium Oct 2017 #147
This salin Oct 2017 #167
Thank you. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #175
The reaction to bravenak is similar to trump 's reaction to san juan mayor and other minorities JI7 Oct 2017 #183
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #186
Great post. Thank you. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #184
Well said! mcar Oct 2017 #202
Recommended. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #238
Exactly... MineralMan Oct 2017 #242
+1 betsuni Oct 2017 #243
It should bother you. joshcryer Oct 2017 #279
I am so glad you're here! Squinch Oct 2017 #298
AWESOME! lunamagica Oct 2017 #306
Yes... ism nailed it! n/t radical noodle Oct 2017 #318
Exactly. You really posted the truth of it. KitSileya Oct 2017 #319
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #326
You nail it, ismnotwasm ! Skidmore Oct 2017 #337
She also has one of the sharpest minds that I've ever encountered. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #140
Bingo. nt DURHAM D Oct 2017 #67
the poor souls get triggered. JHan Oct 2017 #69
Oh, we know what it is. Starry Messenger Oct 2017 #109
Hilarious that you call names on anyone who does not belong to your silly fan club. cwydro Oct 2017 #120
you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #137
Lol. cwydro Oct 2017 #142
What makes you think I was referring to you? ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #163
Racism concerns me too. cwydro Oct 2017 #165
I hope you called out a certain activist/ author as well. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #176
I wasn't hanging out here during that time. cwydro Oct 2017 #181
whataboutism melman Oct 2017 #182
Yeah, he is an asshole. On that we can agree. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #185
I am glad for heaven05 Oct 2017 #231
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Oct 2017 #291
+1000. stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #136
JPR sucks ass and can burn in a dumpster fire.... RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #254
I wish they'd go back. I can't get over the irony of the way they pile on while complaining Squinch Oct 2017 #297
What is the going rate sarisataka Oct 2017 #42
Should Mueller also investigate DU? MichMan Oct 2017 #53
Who Say He/They Haven't? Me. Oct 2017 #112
Possibility they will... revmclaren Oct 2017 #161
When the founding fathers wrote up the amenements rock Oct 2017 #57
Did she get her guns taken away too? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #162
I'm so mad rock Oct 2017 #168
If anyone needed to be restricted it was the many bots retweeting everything Wikileaks. karynnj Oct 2017 #60
BFD RainCaster Oct 2017 #79
I guess it was enough of a "BFD" to get you to post. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #84
She. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #189
Me too. ananda Oct 2017 #111
Maybe laundered through Russia but Twitter was a tool of the VRWC from the get-go. ucrdem Oct 2017 #117
I wish YouTube and Twitter would take steps to prevent brigading. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #123
Yep. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #130
Twitter is shit. JDC Oct 2017 #158
Help!! HElp!! NobodyHere Oct 2017 #164
In reality most of us are. revmclaren Oct 2017 #166
We are? NobodyHere Oct 2017 #171
So you accept the trump administration revmclaren Oct 2017 #172
That's quite a stretch NobodyHere Oct 2017 #173
Maybe most of us have higher priorities. revmclaren Oct 2017 #174
The alert stalking of an outspoken AA woman on Twitter is another symptom of the same disease... SunSeeker Oct 2017 #188
You just said you were being repressed. lapucelle Oct 2017 #177
Oh you son of a silly person NobodyHere Oct 2017 #178
So, you're not being repressed? lapucelle Oct 2017 #180
"After going after ...." Lil Missy Oct 2017 #170
It's crazy Rob H. Oct 2017 #191
Sadly this forum is obsessed with social media slacktivism and not real oppression LittleBlue Oct 2017 #192
Sad story NobodyHere Oct 2017 #203
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #327
It's hilarious how suddenly the F-word is the worst thing in the world. betsuni Oct 2017 #194
Nobody said that melman Oct 2017 #197
Wrong. It was the excuse for all the hateful Twitter comments. betsuni Oct 2017 #216
Stop giving this nutty woman attention. jfc romanic Oct 2017 #214
Probably the healthiest post in the thread. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #282
Twitter has been going after trolls who attack others on its site. bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #215
I read in another thread that this person also got banned from reddit. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #217
Not banned on DU. George II Oct 2017 #244
banned from posting Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #324
Just want to make a comment. Skidmore Oct 2017 #220
This. This. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #230
+1 betsuni Oct 2017 #234
Thanks! MineralMan Oct 2017 #245
... Scurrilous Oct 2017 #248
Excellent post. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #251
*This* brer cat Oct 2017 #264
WOW Skidmore! That is such an excellent post, thank you. R B Garr Oct 2017 #266
Yes, please, make this an OP! lunamagica Oct 2017 #310
You should post more often. herding cats Oct 2017 #320
Getting banned is kind of her schtick. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #235
I liked her posts on DU malaise Oct 2017 #237
thanks for this OP heaven05 Oct 2017 #241
These threads have been very revealing. brer cat Oct 2017 #273
Wow, have they ever. Quite the hypocritical underbelly has been exposed. Seems Squinch Oct 2017 #299
Oh I can believe heaven05 Oct 2017 #317
Is This A Threat? LovingA2andMI Oct 2017 #323
And many, especially me, don't give heaven05 Oct 2017 #330
What the fuck? No, it's not a threat. And there is absolutely NO reason for you to think it Squinch Oct 2017 #339
Why am I snowybirdie Oct 2017 #247
Because she persisted. lapucelle Oct 2017 #249
Can we reopen the META forum already? RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #252
Have we had a meta forum since you signed up? Squinch Oct 2017 #300
No RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #329
Susan probably went whining to Twitter...I mean don't they know who she is? Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #284
Susan took down Bravenak with two simple words: "Apology accepted." SMC22307 Oct 2017 #304
It is my funny Skidmore Oct 2017 #314
You must realize you are agreeing with Bravenak's assessment that Sarandon R B Garr Oct 2017 #338
Not in the least. SS was cool, calm, collected... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #350
Wrong, Bravenak was also calm, cool and collected. She explained exactly what was happening, R B Garr Oct 2017 #351
Two simple words sent Bravenak into victim mode. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #352
Wrong, she merely posted a collage that mimicked Sarandon's own R B Garr Oct 2017 #354
Looks like Bravenak has my number? SMC22307 Oct 2017 #356
It's obvious she does. Your obsession about her and where she posts R B Garr Oct 2017 #357
Click those heels together a bit more, RB. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #359
Is this part of the "game" you referenced in your earlier posts? Where R B Garr Oct 2017 #360
If it is, you're playing it... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #362
More of the game where you try and make it about me?? R B Garr Oct 2017 #364
And how do you feel about the disgusting racist and sexist pile-on of Bravenak after that? Squinch Oct 2017 #340
I don't like any racist or sexist pile-ons, but Twitter is full of... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #353
So I guess you won't answer my question, and you are condoning the vile racist and sexist Squinch Oct 2017 #368
This is a laughable distortion. None of what you've R B Garr Oct 2017 #369
I have only a giant fuck you for for Susan...I despise her. I like Bravenak...but not that Stein Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #341
May I say something about Bravenak without getting in trouble? raven mad Oct 2017 #303
They brought the fight to Bravenak, not the other way around, just to be clear. herding cats Oct 2017 #321
Essentially saying, "sit down and shut up, woman!" George II Oct 2017 #333
Banned from DU, Banned from Kos, Banned from Twitter, is anyone else seeing a pattern here? berni_mccoy Oct 2017 #342
Let me guess. This started in 2015. nt R B Garr Oct 2017 #343
Don't irritate her fan club. cwydro Oct 2017 #345
The fan club doesn't *do* common denominators. (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2017 #355
I never seen a better example of the phrase "you reap what you sow" Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #366
"you reap what you sow -- since 2015" R B Garr Oct 2017 #367
What? Huh? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #370
I don't do Twitter and I'm considering closing my fb account. MoonRiver Oct 2017 #349

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
196. That's the kind of "unity" she brings out in people.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:02 PM
Oct 2017

Don't play by the rules and fling racist and anti-Semitic shit? Everyone else's fault!

Response to ornotna (Reply #179)

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
2. oh let's be fucking serious here
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:41 PM
Oct 2017

She got alerted on by a bunch of people and was put into automatic timeout until it could be reviewed/she cooled down.

In the grand scheme of twitter, bravenak is a random nobody.

Yet it gets so much attention here.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. Why on Earth Would It Matter to You?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:47 PM
Oct 2017

She's a familiar name here on DU. Someone posted something about her. Why do you care enough to trash her in this thread?

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
8. I'm not trashing her
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:49 PM
Oct 2017

But making her out to be this huge thing that OH MY GOD TWITTER BLOCKED HER!!@$#@@% aid just ridiculous.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
15. Because it's the same usual bullshit of people getting all outraged over something
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:58 PM
Oct 2017

that they don't comprehend. If someone posts a bunch of inflammatory crap and it gets alerted, a number of alerts will cause the account to be temporarily suspended.

But around these parts, it's all 'We're being oppressed!!' bullshit because hey, the world is complicated and as much as we democrats like to pretend that we like to learn things there's a good segment that simply doesn't, especially when it comes to technology and applications.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
24. I comprehend alert stalking. The alert stalking of Bravenak is shameful.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:04 PM
Oct 2017

Just like the attempt to shut up the NFL players' protests.

"Inflammatory" appears to be anything that upsets the powers that be.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
80. I've had it happen to me several times for calling out Nazis on Twitter.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:47 PM
Oct 2017

The horrible things the Nazis say get a pass, however.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. I agree with Blue.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:01 PM
Oct 2017

I don't get this big "bravenak is a hero" thing.

She posted a bunch of "fuck you" memes about Sarandon and others.

I would not call that "taking on" Sarandon. It's the equivalent of writing something on a bathroom wall.

She got in trouble because of her profane postings, just as she did here. If one posts nasty memes about another person, it stands to reason that the person might respond in kind.

Most of us learned this in kindergarten - if you call another person a poopie head, most likely they will then call YOU a poopie head. And yes, they may have their friends call you a poopie head too.

This behavior is puerile and I cannot see how it advances the Democratic cause.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
22. Why does it matter to you?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:02 PM
Oct 2017

That's my question.

Why not just let people post stuff and leave it at that?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
33. Isn't this a discussion board?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:14 PM
Oct 2017

Are you trying to tell me what I can and cannot say?

Why does it matter to you what young women wear? Yes, I heard about your judgmental comments.

I can comment on this thread and any other thread, just as Blue can. Blue and I rarely agree, but on this we do.

Why does it matter to you what another poster says?

I find this odd; you're not usually this way. I mean, you do tend to pontificate on occasion, but generally you don't comment negatively on the content of others' posts.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
52. All right, I can respect that.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:24 PM
Oct 2017

I was usually on her side here on DU back a few months or a year ago (time is too fluid for me lol), but she lost me along the way.

I enjoyed her threads and her posts, but she somehow got a little off the track for my liking. Not that my liking matters to anyone. I find continual profanity boring and a sign someone has no real argument.

No offense intended toward you Mineral Man. I know you and I sometimes (oftentimes?) disagree, but I enjoy your posts. We'll agree to disagree on this one.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #36)

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
148. I see. Oddly enough, I don't believe I've ever noticed your
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:06 PM
Oct 2017

screen name here, so I'm not sure why I should care. But, hey, thanks for letting me know...

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
150. I'm a lurker
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:13 PM
Oct 2017

Du is my homepage. I joined about ten years ago, but I never post unless it's something that really upsets me. This is one of those things.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
151. Yes. That's apparent. Again, though,
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:18 PM
Oct 2017

I can't quite see why you shared that particular link with me. And as a reply to my saying that Bravenak was a DU friend of mine. Was your intent to get me to dump her as a friend? I wouldn't do that.

So, according to you, something "really upset" you. Was it that I consider Bravenak to be a friend? Why would that upset you?

Actually, I remember the context of that post. I think it's interesting that it shows up in that link as a screenshot, only, rather than a link to the post. Maybe someone has a list somewhere of such things, to make it easy for people to post them. I know of lists like that. I've seen lists like that.

Anyhow, I suppose you'll drop back into lurking mode again, so I probably won't encounter your screen name again until something else "really upsets" you.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
154. Here's what I think is interesting
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:30 PM
Oct 2017

The idea that there's some 'context' that would make those words acceptable. That's very interesting indeed.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
155. I did not say those words are acceptable.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:34 PM
Oct 2017

I said I know the context of them. There is a difference. Most people have said unacceptable things at one time or another. Certainly I have. Most of my friends have, as well, at one time or another. When I recognize that I have, I apologize and attempt to explain myself.

Context is important for understanding. It's difficult to analyze something based on an out-of-context fragment.



SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
59. Yes, it's a discussion board, so why are you opposed to discussion of Bravenak?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

Since when is "importance" a criteria for worthiness of an OP?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
103. I said she is not important in the Twitterverse.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:20 PM
Oct 2017

No one cares about a nobody who publishes fuck you memes. She used to be on DU, which is why I comment on it - this is a DU thread.

Sorry if you misunderstood.

I find all this bravenak stuff very amusing.

Response to pintobean (Reply #139)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
236. she will always
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:06 PM
Oct 2017

be somebody to people here, so she is somebody here still....she will not be silenced...sounds like a word always used by those offended by a POC speaking their minds....been like this for generations...well power DOES NOT last forever...history has proven that fact time after time.............arrogance has it's own limitations and is a huge 'tell', racially.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
255. She was silenced.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:55 PM
Oct 2017

Has nothing to do with being a POC, a woman, or who she supported in the primaries. She repeatedly broke the rules here. She follows thousands of others before her. People who thought they were more important than the rest of us, and didn't need to follow the rules. She's not a hero or a martyr, but I would say a victim. A victim of the people claiming to be her supporters. People who encouraged her to be rude, crude and obnoxious rather than warning her that she needed to throttle it back.

Why? Because they didn't have the guts to post what she would, knowing it was a dangerous path.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
313. BS
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:35 AM
Oct 2017

I know it, you know it. Word salad DOES NOT excuse arrogance based on racial determination and she was banned on every count YOU named, mainly because she was POC and a woman. She may have been 'silenced' here, something I feel you would be happy with with no matter who, IF they like Bravenak, continually pointed out the rudeness and narrow mindedness of all who opposed truth about those who alert stalked her, harassed her and it was a small certain cadre here of the usual suspects always and usually males of a certain racial persuasion who did not like a POC to be outspoken on their forum. I have always seen that here.

Rules be damned. They had NOTHING to do with her being banned. That she was an outspoken POC who happened to fly in the face of perceived white male supremacy that had people here gnashing their teeth and ganging up on her constantly...she is a warrior unlike many here. And she has not been silenced...she has definitely gone on to bigger things than this forum.

She spoke truth to typical corrupted power that this society and it's races have had to deal with for generations. "Throttle it back" because someone here got uncomfortable with her truth...that's always the excuse when one feels threatened by a POC or woman standing up to white male privilege and entitlement. Give me a break...you talk about rules, like always rules for POC, not for anyone else...that has been borne out here time and again....so I repeat, your word salad is typical BS dressed up to make the poor people here who got offended by her truth, usually THE TRUTH, the victims....BS!!!!

And "she followed thousands of others like her"???? Yeah for generations only silencing has worked against those thousands who have stood against those who know they are the power in this country by virtue of their skin color. So I have no problem with that truth or will I be silenced or run out of town for speaking up in defense of a sister trying to make sense of the white male supremacy dynamic and speaking truth to that power. And how that dynamic must silence those who stand against it and that has always been the answer to those who speak up against.... hasn't it....???? And now given the current political climate, them POC better get silent again, right???

Finally, only "dangerous" in your social construct and dynamic. Not with POC who have to fight the white male supremacy dynamic every damn day.

George II

(67,782 posts)
295. That's interesting. For a "nobody here" this OP about her has 293 replies and another.....
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:07 PM
Oct 2017

....OP about her currently has 458 replies. Wish I was such a "nobody".



 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
331. a really disrespectful post
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:05 AM
Oct 2017

to you by...well big plus to you. I'm having so much fun watching the anti-bravnak/POC/outspoken woman crowd outing themselves...much fun Kudos to you...

George II

(67,782 posts)
332. Thank you. Very surprising now to now see how many "didn't know" Bravenak is a black woman.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:12 AM
Oct 2017
back atcha.

cadmium

(1,526 posts)
131. She has large following
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

and thousands enjoy her posts and support her. Minimizing her doesn't ring true

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
307. Bravenak does more than that
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:10 AM
Oct 2017

and she reflects many of the opinions of people here on DU. Sarandon deserves whatever Bravenak dishes out. (And I'm not bashing Dems because Sarandon isn't one... but Bravenak IS.)

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
64. I wonder if you know what mentioning that particular old
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:34 PM
Oct 2017

thread of mine reveals about you? I also wonder what possible relevance it has to this discussion. This is the second time recently that that thread has been brought up. That tells me a lot, whether you are aware of that or not.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
240. Bravenak is a friend of mine also. We agree on very little, But I defend her right to say it and
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:13 PM
Oct 2017

blast me at the same time :>

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
34. Because the OP is trying to start a conspiracy theory?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:14 PM
Oct 2017

One of the things DU does better than right wing sites is have a more realistic view on conspiracy theories. So when one is suggested, people often reply and say "that's ridiculous". As happened in the post you complained about.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
43. Yes, but I'm going to drop this now.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:18 PM
Oct 2017

While on DU, Bravenak was a friend of mine. I understand why she is not here any longer.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
105. why don't YOU let people post stuff and leave it at that?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:24 PM
Oct 2017

Because you have an opinion that you want to express.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
27. No one is jealous.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:07 PM
Oct 2017

Bravenak's profane posts got her in trouble here and on numerous other sites.

She's simply reaping what she has sowed.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
35. Saying fuck you to a public figure is not profanity.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:15 PM
Oct 2017

People do it here and all over social media all day long.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
97. "Fuck" is profane.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:14 PM
Oct 2017

No matter how used to it we are.

It is bleeped out of radio and TV, and obviously the use of it can get you banned.

She made a nine panel photo spread of Sarandon and put "fuck you" all over it. Stupid and childish.

If you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
228. Lol.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:48 PM
Oct 2017

I have said "fuck you" and posted "fuck you" memes on twitter without consequence. I have said "fuck you" and posted "fuck you" memes on facebook without consequence.

You know what's profane? Silencing black activists.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
246. Posting "fuck you" memes is not activism.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:24 PM
Oct 2017

Braving hostility at lunch counters is activism. Taking Freedom Rides is activism. Protesting the Vietnam War surrounded by an armed National Guard is activism. Smuggling Ribavirin into the U.S. during the AIDS epidemic is activism. Climbing up a flagpole in South Carolina to remove the Confederate flag is activism. Driving a car while female in Saudi Arabia is activism.

Sitting safely behind a keyboard flinging shit on Twitter, then playing the victim, is not activism.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
260. There are many types of activism.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:03 PM
Oct 2017

One size does not fit all.

I'll will stand up for her activism over those trying to silence her any day. The attacks in this thread seem to have everything to do with old grudges and zero to do with who Bravenak is or her methods. It's petty and vindictive.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
265. And Bravenak posting "fuck you" memes on Twitter isn't one.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:17 PM
Oct 2017

Millions of people "fuck you" their way through Twitter -- are they all activists?

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
267. I don't accept that just because you say so.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:19 PM
Oct 2017

You don't have to think of her as an activist. That's your right. But I do. And so do a whole hell of a lot of other people. Many more than are concerned about this little thread that's for sure.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
274. I said this to you once and will do it again.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:35 PM
Oct 2017
cwydro
97. "Fuck" is profane.

No matter how used to it we are.

It is bleeped out of radio and TV, and obviously the use of it can get you banned.

She made a nine panel photo spread of Sarandon and put "fuck you" all over it. Stupid and childish.

If you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.


Will Pitt called the President of the United States a POSUCS. That is "PIECE OF SHIT USED CAR SALESMAN" ended it with "FUCK YOU MR PRESIDENT. FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY SOUL" The crowd roared here, cheered him on and kissed his cheek. 712 comments. Yeah!!!!! OBAMA SUCKS...no need of nine panels, he was given 9 panels a day as some on the left hated on him as much of the right.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
311. It wasn't what she said
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:29 AM
Oct 2017

it was who she said it to... but you know that. I'm sure happy to know that you don't use profanity. That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
336. false civility
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:07 PM
Oct 2017

is not very becoming when trying to make another human being, bravenak, less than you. You are pretty obvious, too bad you can't see that....but then again maybe not.....

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
224. yeah
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:41 PM
Oct 2017

anytime a black person gets angry, it's profane, especially if it's true, as Braves responses usually were. When a player takes a knee it's 'unameriKKKan'. She is a standup person who speaks her mind, and when certain people here got offended at her truth, they stalked and alerted until the 'uppity' person was gone....you're fooling no one...know where you are coming from. It was all about race, black vs white...as usual we see who won. But for 350 years win is ......

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
302. Nope.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:35 PM
Oct 2017

To some in this thread, bravenak is some mighty SJW, when she's really just a divisive, potty-mouthed attention-seeker on any social media or message board that will give her a platform.

cadmium

(1,526 posts)
121. It's not something to let slide
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:40 PM
Oct 2017

Even if it was by algorithm by alerts. Point is that Sarandon and Sanders lackeys attacked her en masse. They promote Assange's access -- It smells. It may not be a big thing by itself -- but it's big enough not to let them slide without protest

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
89. Because some of us remember how she behaved here. Pretending that she is some sweet innocent
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:03 PM
Oct 2017

She's a baiter and a troll and that eventually comes with consequences. It's annoying seeing people laud her given she made it clear she thinks many DUers are racist for something as simple as finding Kanye West to be an untalented hack. It's certainly not trashing her.

Why shouldn't people give a more complete picture of who she is?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
133. Yes. I recall her quite clearly. She got time out after time out and was still allowed to return
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:49 PM
Oct 2017

when others were permanently banned for much less.

And for those of you who consider her a friend, that's just fine. But she was not a friend to many of us here.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
204. And not understanding Scot Shirley Manson's use of...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:19 PM
Oct 2017

"twat" against his dickishness toward Beck. And doubling down even after explained to her. That was classic.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
10. This Right Here.....
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:52 PM
Oct 2017

And Why Would Anyone Outside of Her Followers Give One Iota If She Was Restricted By Twitter? Heck, Wasn't This Same Individual Removed From D.U. too?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
134. Her account has been flagged for review,
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:50 PM
Oct 2017

which is the current version of banning. She last posted in March, so I doubt she'll be back.

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
169. No
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

This is the current version of banning. It's the same as the "old version of banning". This ban went into effect just a few days ago.

About XXX XXX
Statistics and Information
Account status: Posting privileges revoked
Member since: Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:31 AM
Number of posts: 297
Number of posts, last 90 days: 297
Favorite forum: General Discussion, 284 posts in the last 90 days (96% of total posts)
Favorite group: Bernie Sanders, 1 posts in the last 90 days (0% of total posts)
Last post: Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:34 AM

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
206. That's odd.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:20 PM
Oct 2017

Because when I look at her profile I get this:

Account status: Flagged for review
Member since: Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:49 PM
Number of posts: 34,648
Number of posts, last 90 days: 0
Favorite forum: NA
Favorite group: NA
Last post: Thu Mar 9, 2017, 08:26 PM


Did she come back under the same name? If so, it sure didn't take her long to lose posting privileges. As it was, under her original account she was constantly being put in time out.

And even odder is that when I type in her name in the DU search function, I can only get old stuff under that name.

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
212. You're misreading my posts.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:46 PM
Oct 2017

Bravenak is not banned. She is flagged for review.

You should go back and actually read what I posted. The two links go to profiles that illustrate the difference between a "flagged for review" profile and a "posting privileges revoked" profile.

The first link takes you to Bravenak's profile.

The second link takes you to the profile of a banned user named Cherokee Fiddles. The profile that I copied and pasted into the textbox belongs to former member Cherokee Fiddles.

So it appears that you are mistaken when you assert that FFR is "the current version of banning".

Just so people fully understand that Bravenak is not banned and that FFR is not the "current version of banning", here are the profiles.

Bravenak
Statistics and Information
Account status: Flagged for review
Member since: Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:49 PM
Number of posts: 34,648
Number of posts, last 90 days: 0
Favorite forum: NA
Favorite group: NA
Last post: Thu Mar 9, 2017, 10:26 PM

CherokeeFiddle
Statistics and Information
Account status: Posting privileges revoked
Member since: Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:31 AM
Number of posts: 297
Number of posts, last 90 days: 297
Favorite forum: General Discussion, 284 posts in the last 90 days (96% of total posts)
Favorite group: Bernie Sanders, 1 posts in the last 90 days (0% of total posts)
Last post: Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:34 AM

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
222. Yep
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:38 PM
Oct 2017

Response to xxx (Original post)Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:00 PM
Star Member Skinner (63,259 posts)
1. Here's the deal.

Last June we made clear to everyone that we wanted this place to be 1) friendlier, and 2) more supportive of Democrats. Everything we do as administrators is done in pursuit of those two goals. And you know what? This place is friendlier and more supportive of Democrats than it has ever been. We would like it to stay this way.

We frequently go back and review the people who have been flagged for review -- sometimes on our own and sometimes in response to an inquiry -- and each time we ask ourselves, "Will bringing this person back today make Democratic Underground friendlier and more supportive of Democrats?"

If the answer is no (and it usually is) then they stay flagged.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
268. Flagged for review and you can't post.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:21 PM
Oct 2017

I know more than one whose account has been flagged for review and apparently those accounts go into never-never land and are never actually reviewed. So for all practical purposes, FFR *is* the current version of banning.

So she came back as CherokeeFiddle?

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
325. What are you talking about?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:06 AM
Oct 2017
No, my posts never said or implied in any way that Bravenak came back as Cherokee Fiddle.

I'm not sure why you've latched onto this particular misreading of my posts. It strikes me as extremely odd.


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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Exactly.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:54 PM
Oct 2017

She is on no one's importance list.

She's been suspended or banned from numerous sites, according to links I've found here on DU.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
16. Yeah but twitter had a bad quarter
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:58 PM
Oct 2017

that explains why they're restricting bravenak don't you know?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
226. Minimizing her
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:45 PM
Oct 2017

by you, does not make it true....she is somebody...to a lot of people. So your opinion, about her, really means nothing.... Hope your day gets better...

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. All about $$$.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:41 PM
Oct 2017

The "big names" bring in the big bucks on social media, so they will pretty much always rule in the favor of $$$.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
78. Doesn't garner enough attention.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:46 PM
Oct 2017

And we all know there's a desperate need for attention... Twitter's the perfect outlet.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
190. Offering up "fuck yous" to a celebrity means nothing.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

Bravenak needs more listening and less flapping of gums. I'd suggest she watch the Vietnam series in its entirety and do a little (or lot) of self-refection. She's no victim. Young men sent to die in unnecessary wars and students gunned down on college campuses are victims, not some loudmouth behind a keyboard. I have zero patience with her drama-filled shtick and seems many on social media and various message boards don't either...

brush

(53,785 posts)
257. Uh-oh, sounds like a Sarandon supporter talking. I say fuck Sarandon too. Where's the revolution...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:56 PM
Oct 2017

she claimed would happen once trump was elected?

She got her wish, where is it?

Deal with the issue at hand (say how she hounded Huerta) instead telling someone to watch TV.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
258. Sounds like you'd be wrong.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:01 PM
Oct 2017

Don't spend much time on Twitter, and don't follow Sarandon (or DU's little mouth that roared). I disagree that SS "hounded" Huerta -- she asked questions. It was blown out of proportion in an attempt to disparage Sanders. At least be honest...

brush

(53,785 posts)
262. Our opinion of it is different. I watched the video. Why the hell are you defending...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:09 PM
Oct 2017

Sarandon. How many people do you thing stayed home or voted for Stein or wrote in Sanders in the general because of Sarandon's foolish pronouncements?

She just about rooted for trump and the revolution his election would bring.

Unforgivable.

She helped get us trump.

I'm on bravenak's side on this, and her watching TV has nothing to do with it.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
276. Your attempt to portray me as "defending" Sarandon is as dishonest as...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

those who insist that Sarandon harassed Huerta. She asked questions, challenged her. I'm well aware of the never-ending anti-Sanders agenda to push, but again, be honest.

brush

(53,785 posts)
286. As I said, our opinions differ. But that aside, why are you taking sides against bravenak in this?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:39 PM
Oct 2017

There's no denying the negative effect Sarandon had on the election.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/susan-sarandon-trump-might-be-better-for-america-than-hillary-clinton

Be honest yourself.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
301. Bill Clinton, the Obamas, Beyonce & Jay-Z, Clooney, Katy Perry, DeNiro, DiCaprio, et al...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:31 PM
Oct 2017

were not enough to counter one Susan Sarandon? Seriously? People need to get a grip and accept that maybe, just maybe, it was the candidate. (To anyone with an itchy alert finger: I voted for Hillary in the GE.) Ta-Nehisi Coates stated he was voting for Sanders. Where's the wrath?

We're not going to agree with each other, so time to let it go...

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
309. That's what I could never figure out.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:14 AM
Oct 2017

HRC had literally hundreds of celebrity endorsements -- many names bigger than SS.

How did SS sink our battleship?

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
347. Good question. Salon-goers must understand by now that voters living in...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:07 AM
Oct 2017

the dying Rust Belt don't give a shit about *librul Hollywood* roaring for HRC. But somehow, they believe SS is powerful enough to bring down a presidential campaign.

brush

(53,785 posts)
315. We just disagreed all around. It wasn't the candidate.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:38 AM
Oct 2017
It was a stolen election. Some here don't want to admit that because their candidate lost the primary.

Comey, Putin, Assange, repug vote suppression, election hacks and other repug cheating, third-party Putin tools like Stein and idiot pronouncements from fools like Sarandon rooting for trump on national TV (her second time pulling such crap, she did the same thing against Gore).

It was unprecedented assault on our election where a myriad of forces trained all their efforts to defeat the Democratic Party candidate in order to install trump, and Clinton ran against all of that and still won the popular vote.

Now that we know what happened, to think that the same forces would not have done the same to Sanders is exceedingly naive.

And you still didn't address why you're siding against bravenak on the original issue. It's apparent that you don't like her but come on, she's right about Sarandon.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
316. Vietnam is over
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:40 AM
Oct 2017

trump is still president... and Sarandon wanted him to win. This affects REAL lives today and everyone that's a Democrat should be furious with Sarandon. It isn't about Bravenak being a victim. It's about all the real victims of the trump presidency.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
334. Well, your bias certainly compels you to cast stones at Brave.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:16 AM
Oct 2017

Well, your bias certainly compels you to cast stones at Brave.

Sacred cows have an odd way of talking us into acting like the lesser of who we are when others don't see our cows as that sacred, divine and righteous... or even just viable candidates

Zero patience, indeed.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
21. Yeah, this looks like a Twitter alert swarm gone awry.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:01 PM
Oct 2017

There is nothing wrong with her content. Except.....

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
7. It there a link where Susan Sarandon sics her fans on that person?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:49 PM
Oct 2017

All I saw was her retweeting a tweet sent to her and saying apology accepted. I also saw her fans going after Sarandon. Do some Twtters believe a person can tweet an insult and the other is not supposed to respond? That seems a little snowflake Trumpish to me.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. Bingo.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:05 PM
Oct 2017

She says fuck you to Sarandon, and then she whines about being a victim when Sarandon responds. I cannot stand Sarandon, but I certainly don't fault her for responding. The more mature thing would have been to ignore it, but no one on Twitter seems to be very mature.

In the other thread, her fans call her a "warrior" , then in the next post a "victim". So silly.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
31. I can't figure out how posting hate filled screeds on Twitter equals activism.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:10 PM
Oct 2017

And before she was FFR here she threatened to have her male relatives beat up people on DU.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998

bravenak (34,648 posts)
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes

That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.

Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
37. Yes indeed.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017

Well, I'm sure she's loving the attention, but I still find it sad.

Saying "fuck you" to someone is not activism.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
49. It is sad. When people who claim to be activist's act like that it has the
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:21 PM
Oct 2017

very real possibility of turning people off of very important issues. I saw tweets worthy of Trump in those feeds. Same hateful divisive rhetoric.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
106. I know.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:24 PM
Oct 2017

This kind of nonsense makes all of us look bad.

I'm very glad that she is no longer associated with DU.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
159. How did you respond when a poster said..and I quote "F**K You Mr. President?"
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:45 PM
Oct 2017

Then went on to call him a "piece of shit used car salesman." That writer claims to be an activist as well.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
218. I have his "The Ocean is Coming" bookmarked. The best writing I have ever seen
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:05 PM
Oct 2017

It changed my life and my opened my eyes to climate change. Every appliance in my home is an energy saving appliance. I had the grass in my yard removed and had it replaced with eco lawn seed in a small area and drought-resistant shrubs and plants. I never use plastic water bottles and I recycle what I can.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
263. I have always recycled.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:14 PM
Oct 2017
Autumn
218. I have his "The Ocean is Coming" bookmarked. The best writing I have ever seen

It changed my life and my opened my eyes to climate change. Every appliance in my home is an energy saving appliance. I had the grass in my yard removed and had it replaced with eco lawn seed in a small area and drought-resistant shrubs and plants. I never use plastic water bottles and I recycle what I can.


.................................

Glad it finally opened your eyes. I have been doing it forever. I own water bottles. Rinse them out and refill...for years and years and years. Glad he finally opened your eyes, sad it did not happen sooner.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
200. And some here still support and follow him
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:12 PM
Oct 2017

And post his articles here. But I guess it's OK for some DUers to support him, just not OK for some DUers to support other members. Why is that, do you suppose?

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
208. Umhmmm.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:38 PM
Oct 2017

Yes his article of late was about how dangerous 45 is. Beware! Yet he stated here that he would not vote for Hillary. He tossed his vote away, sadly many did.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
259. With hypocrisy I believe it was.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:02 PM
Oct 2017

Given the light of the current topic of discussion, yeah, I'd say hypocrisy is the operative word.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
66. Ha, I was wondering if the "male relative"...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:36 PM
Oct 2017

would be summoned against Sarandon and her Twitter followers. But that's already been done (as well as the mystery letters)... it'll be something new and improved.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
110. I must have missed that one.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:31 PM
Oct 2017

Durn!

Seriously, she threatened siccing a "male relative" on someone?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
129. I remember the "letter".
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:45 PM
Oct 2017

Wasn't there a DUer who promised to track down the writer?

Did I miss the big reveal?

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
199. If there was a big reveal I missed it, too.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:05 PM
Oct 2017

I just remember calls for the Postmaster General and Homeland Security to get involved.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
195. No, the screen shots of a couple of "the letters" she sent DUers are posted in the Twitter feed
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:01 PM
Oct 2017

I posted a link to one of her posts here when someone claimed it wasn't true that she posted about her relatives tracking down DUers and having a "face to face".

Here is the post I referenced.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
227. My post wasn't clear...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:46 PM
Oct 2017

yes, your link is about the relatives. I just skimmed that thread for shits and grins and wow -- there are some other beauts in there about big, bad relatives!

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
232. I thought my post may have been misunderstood when you mentioned the word "letters "
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:53 PM
Oct 2017

It's all good . That twitter feed and some of the comments are hilarious.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
344. That's hilarious.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:53 PM
Oct 2017

Reminds me of elementary school, when kids would say they were gonna get their "big brother" to come beat up classmates.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
346. I know. LOL And a perfect example of what...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:57 AM
Oct 2017

the site owners seem to be stressing in "be civil" and "you take your chances." You can't take your chances, then cry foul and play the victim. Un-huh.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
361. It's also a perfect example of what bravenak described about Twitter trolls
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:52 PM
Oct 2017

trying to get her shut down. She described their trolling behavior exactly and even predicted it. It's obvious why you keep intentionally distorting this.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
365. All you've proven is that she uses the same screen name and the trolls
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:14 PM
Oct 2017

follow her.

You've proven her right, again. She nailed it -- Susan Sarandon sic'ed her Twitter trolls on her. You keep validating bravenak...

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
358. Why do you suppose no one commented about the actual contents of
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:39 PM
Oct 2017

bravenak's OP? The common denominator looks to be an obsession with her personally -- because of who she opposes.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
70. Got a link to Bravenak threatening "to have her male relatives beat up people on DU"?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:41 PM
Oct 2017

Context would be helpful when accusing someone of criminal conduct...

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
75. Here's one. There were a few others. Posted, here at DU to DUers.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:44 PM
Oct 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998

bravenak (34,648 posts)
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes

That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.

Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
82. That's what I thought. She is talking about defending herself from harassers.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:50 PM
Oct 2017

She was not threatening anyone in particular.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
87. You got your link, I have no intention of diagramming or parsing her actual words. .
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:58 PM
Oct 2017

Others see it different than you .

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998

bravenak (34,648 posts)
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes

That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.

Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
93. I'm sure Bravenak's alert stalkers would agree with you...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:06 PM
Oct 2017

But that does not make her statement about intending to defend herself against harassers a threat to beat up anyone, let alone any particular person posting on DU.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
99. Skinner in ATA made a point that it's very easy to not get FFR or have hidden posts. Just be civil.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:15 PM
Oct 2017
YMMV.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
125. You have a problem with what I said ,alert on that post. I gave you the link to back up what I said,
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:42 PM
Oct 2017

Twice. Now for the the third time.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1576998


bravenak (34,648 posts)
43. I could care less what ANY OF YOU thinks about my credibility after these anti black racist memes

That they pretent do not exist. They lack the credibility to ever be judgemental. I do care that people are harassing my family. And I think I know exactly who it is. Just let them know that if they keep it up, they will have somebody harassing them back and he is not nice like me and won't feel one bit bad after he stops the abuser from harassing him further. Even if he has to track them down and have a face to face.

Now read my sigline and listen to some music about my lifestyle.






Autumn

(45,106 posts)
270. I do love our H2O MAN. I loved it when he posted it and he graciously allowed me to put
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:26 PM
Oct 2017

it in my sig line. It's a tribute to him, his wisdom and his gentle humor.

Response to Autumn (Reply #270)

Response to Autumn (Reply #99)

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
119. On the other hand
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:39 PM
Oct 2017

Someone might invent 'harassers' in order to justify their own behavior.

Hypothetically of course. Just saying a thing like that could happen.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
187. Wait, isn't she the one who said something was sent to her in the mail?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:32 PM
Oct 2017

Are we still believing that?


Social media activism can be dangerous when it becomes attention-seeking, like they believe they've attained celebrity status or something. I'd advise her to just disconnect from the internet for a while and get some perspective on life.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
193. After some of the letters she sent to people here were revealed
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:52 PM
Oct 2017

a lot less had any belief or sympathy for her.There are screenshots of a couple of the messages posted in the Twitter feed.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
256. Wait, she sent letters? Now I'm confused!
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:56 PM
Oct 2017

I know about the ones she *supposedly* received from a *supposed* Bernie fan. (No agenda there, eh?!)

Meh. "Poldark" starts in 4 minutes. Maybe I'll check the Twitter feed afterwards...

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
198. I'm certainly not believing it
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:05 PM
Oct 2017

I never did. I think many saw that for what it really was, but saying so was a ticket to an instant hide at the time.

George II

(67,782 posts)
271. Where in that does she "threatened to have her male relatives beat up people on DU"?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:26 PM
Oct 2017

Nowhere does she say anything about anyone being beaten up and nowhere does she say anything about any relatives.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
83. Where is Saradon's tweet sicing her fans on that twitter? You point to a fan of B's here
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:55 PM
Oct 2017

but that's no link to Sarandon having her fans attack anyone. None of you have a link to Sarandon having people go after the perpetually FFR B because it doesn't exist.

Bravenak genius ? I wouldn't call her a genius, there are many other adjective that fit her much, much better.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
86. This thread and your posts are an example of the concerned fans.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:57 PM
Oct 2017

And she's obviously very effective. Very effective, indeed.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
90. I'm not a fan of either idiot or their supporters. So all this shit about her having some famous
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:05 PM
Oct 2017

person having other people on Twitter attacking poor innocent brav is pulled out of thin air. Throw shit you might just get splattered.

Classic persecution complex. It's almost Trumpish.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
95. Actually, it looks like Brave is the one doing the splattering...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:07 PM
Oct 2017

Not the other way around.

Her September 26, 2017 entry...genius.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
96. I don't do twitter and if I did I wouldn't follow her to read her September 26, 2017 entry.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:13 PM
Oct 2017

I'm a big believer in when a person shows you what they are, believe them. She showed many times what she is. Here, Kos. redd it and other places where she has been banned or suspended.

Some people just don't play well with others .

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
102. There is nothing wrong with not being a Bernie fan.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:18 PM
Oct 2017

Here or in other places. Lots of other places, even.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
14. Lol. It's a conspiracy!!!!
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:54 PM
Oct 2017

Maybe those other people haven't resorted to posting "fuck you" collages on top of other twitter user's photos.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
47. Seriously! That's all this is...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:21 PM
Oct 2017

There is nothing wrong with her content -- in fact, it's too good. Apparently.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
65. She is a strong black woman who won't back down and a Hillary supporter. For JPR types that's
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:34 PM
Oct 2017

a double offense.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
124. You know what bothers me the most?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:42 PM
Oct 2017

What gets lost in the discussions of Bravenek herself, ignores the very racism she was subjected to. Because of her being a strong black woman. I am completely disgusted—again—by the deliberate skewing of what’s actually happening by Sarandon fans. Here on DU, as always, I consider the source. I really think that every white person who considers themselves progressive needs to examine their responses to issues pertaining to race. Once that examination is done do it again. And again. And again. No black ‘friends’ or children, or spouses or experiences with the black community, no distant ancestor that was raped in this country and gave a drop of black blood down the line, Nothing saves white People from racism-as-ideology except deep and painful self reflection and self examination. And Growth. And Love.

Despite the thread titles, what happened is Bravenek called out Sarandon—and she is by no means the only one—and because that moron Sarandon decided to give it attention Bravenek received many racist comments. There is no way in hell she is going to stand for that.

The worst thing is, This happens to all Black women with a voice. From Joy Reid to Michelle Obama to local women on TV, to my next door neighbor. All. Of. Them.

This bothers me, this disturbs me to the point of incoherence. There are voices here who, in a petty manner, want to run Bravenek down—here, again, I consider the source, but it does bother me. What bothers me more is when they give the briefest of lip service to the real problem of racism in the progressive community.

cadmium

(1,526 posts)
147. That is the core of the issue
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:05 PM
Oct 2017

Bravenak is not posting "yes sir" "yes ma'am" she is posting her truths and it makes bernibros rage

JI7

(89,251 posts)
183. The reaction to bravenak is similar to trump 's reaction to san juan mayor and other minorities
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:20 PM
Oct 2017

There is something about certain types of people speaking out which they can't stand. There is a 'stay in your place ' type of thing to it.

How dare those black men not stand. How dare the Latina speak against me.

Remember, these are the people who felt oppressed for not being able to call hillary the c word.

So we know it's not about use of profanity.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
242. Exactly...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:17 PM
Oct 2017

Most of the DUers who used to post in the African-American Group have left this site. That Group is now dead. Why? Well...

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
319. Exactly. You really posted the truth of it.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:35 AM
Oct 2017

Black women, and black men too, don't have the luxury of showing emotion at the cruelty they face every day from us white folks. If they do, they are hounded into silence.


My reaction to reading these threads about her on DU, though? My first thought at seeing all those pearl clutchers who tuttut at Bravenak's meme, which she didn't send to Sarandon, but shared among her twitter list (of whom I am one) is that she should have called Sarandon a "piece of shit used car salesman" and told her to "fuck herself with a brick" - many of the naysayers on these thread supported calling actual Democrats that with gusto....

Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #124)

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
337. You nail it, ismnotwasm !
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:00 PM
Oct 2017

Shaming, discounting, silencing. Bad enough for women with voices who wish to be heard. Doubly so for black women who speak out. The racist streak in the "progressive" community is why I've rejected it. It is that same mindset evoked by Sarandon and her followers. I have heard no denouncements or apologies of those comments by any "progressive." I must assume that these "progressives" are in agreement.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
140. She also has one of the sharpest minds that I've ever encountered.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:57 PM
Oct 2017

Something that isn't always well received by the public at large. I didn't say that well, but if I had written what I was thinking....

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
120. Hilarious that you call names on anyone who does not belong to your silly fan club.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:39 PM
Oct 2017

I'm not a member of JPR, never have been, and have never even visited. Nice try to make this about the primaries in some weird way.

JPR are a bunch of sad losers in my mind. I've been a Hillary supporter from day one. I CANNOT stand Bernie.

Somehow, if I don't worship this silly little fool who curses out famous people on the internet, I am one of them?

But calling names shows how weak your position is here.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
163. What makes you think I was referring to you?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:07 PM
Oct 2017

I think you meant something other than “how weak your position is here”.

You don’t know me, and have no reason to believe me, and I accept that, but I will tell that “my position here” is not on my list of concerns at all.

Racism is what is concerning me.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
165. Racism concerns me too.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:19 PM
Oct 2017

We're on the same side on that.

Sorry, I know you were not attacking me. There are just so many ad hominem attacks on posters here if they disagree with whatever the narrative might be on any given day.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
176. I hope you called out a certain activist/ author as well.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:01 PM
Oct 2017

He called the President a "Piece of Shit Used Car Salesman"...then went on to say "F**k You Mr President From the Bottom of My Soul." Then doubled down on his apology thread.

I never saw the same people here condemning him as they do bravenak.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
181. I wasn't hanging out here during that time.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:14 PM
Oct 2017

If I had, I would have said the same about him.

I don't like him; he is a pompous ass in my opinion.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
185. Yeah, he is an asshole. On that we can agree.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:21 PM
Oct 2017

And I think it has much to do about this thread...some of the same posters criticizing bravenak applauded him. That thread had 719 responses. I have no clue what the 'apology' thread got...will not waste my time looking it up.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
231. I am glad for
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:52 PM
Oct 2017

stand up people these days that offend the shit out of the likes of the Sarandon's, trolls, stalkers she has had to face because she speaks her mind. Civility does not work anymore for any POC standing up to the racist whites out there and in many of these internet forums..,..if a POC doesn't respond like many feel they should, they are either the new/old 'uppity' negro or a profane negro....fuck Sarandon and all who are on her boat....go Bravenak ...feet to the fire is all they understand...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response to cwydro (Reply #120)

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
297. I wish they'd go back. I can't get over the irony of the way they pile on while complaining
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:13 PM
Oct 2017

that bravenak, by saying, "Fuck you Sarandon" to her friends, was "bullying" but they don't seem to care about the racist, sexist swill that got tossed back at her by Sarandon's creepy minions.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
42. What is the going rate
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:17 PM
Oct 2017

To have a random person band on Twitter?

More importantly what is the going rate to have a major political figure banned from Twitter? I might want to start a GoFundMe.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
53. Should Mueller also investigate DU?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:25 PM
Oct 2017

After all, she was also suspended here before.

Maybe it's a conspiracy and the FBI needs it to get to the bottom of it. .

revmclaren

(2,524 posts)
161. Possibility they will...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:56 PM
Oct 2017

But because of the rampant Russian propaganda on JPR, they will definitely be examining posters there. The investigation may spill over here because of posters who are posting at both sites. They do have bigger fish in Facebook and Twitter at the moment but it will happen.

The Mueller team is very meticulous.



rock

(13,218 posts)
57. When the founding fathers wrote up the amenements
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:29 PM
Oct 2017

Especially the 2nd, they didn't mean Bravenak! (Yes, extreme )

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
60. If anyone needed to be restricted it was the many bots retweeting everything Wikileaks.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

Especially pre election, if you looked to see all the tweets mentioning HRC, Obama, Kerry, etc you saw a HUGE number of retweets of Wikileaks related comments- as well as many tweets identically worded - probably from bots.

There were many times where I disagreed with Bravenak on issues, but it was completely obvious that she was a real person, who shared enough of who she was here to be credible. Her responses were never just repeats from someone else. Did they give any explanation of why she was restricted?

Was she simply restricted from reading and responding to tweets from Sarandon, Trump and Sanders? If it were that, I think that anyone can do that type of blocking. I suspect that it might be more useful for public figures, who do not have the desire or time to respond to the people responding to their tweets. Given the nature of many tweets, all public figures (other than Scott Brown) likely see that they do not want to get into a 140 character a tweet discussion with anonymous people.

By the way,

RainCaster

(10,883 posts)
79. BFD
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:47 PM
Oct 2017

So what? I know he is one of us, but really. If we all get our undies in a twist every time Twitter does something fucked up, we might as well just go have a drink. Have another if you think Trump is "not normal". Damn there goes my liver.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
117. Maybe laundered through Russia but Twitter was a tool of the VRWC from the get-go.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:37 PM
Oct 2017

Facebook too once it started to catch on. They're both as complicit as the rest of the media, protests of innocence notwithstanding

Oneironaut

(5,501 posts)
123. I wish YouTube and Twitter would take steps to prevent brigading.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:40 PM
Oct 2017

It's a constant annoyance on both sites. I don't know how they can, but it's an effective method troll armies use to silence people.

revmclaren

(2,524 posts)
174. Maybe most of us have higher priorities.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:47 PM
Oct 2017

But some seem to be VERY invested in the fate of an activist on Twitter that they don't even support.

Just saying...

Have a great day now.



SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
188. The alert stalking of an outspoken AA woman on Twitter is another symptom of the same disease...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:34 PM
Oct 2017

that brought us Donald Trump.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
170. "After going after ...."
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

"Going after" certain demographics is not appropriate.

She likely broke the rules then.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
191. It's crazy
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

...how clicking "Accept" to signify one will abide by the terms and conditions of a social media site actually requires a person to acknowledge the clear and perfectly reasonable rules set forth by the site owners and agree to follow them or risk getting ejected, amirite?

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
192. Sadly this forum is obsessed with social media slacktivism and not real oppression
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

500,000 Rohingya have fled the Myanmar military after being targeted for ethnic cleansing. Babies thrown to the ground and having their throats cut, women mass raped and murdered. The media is not allowed access because pictures of dead bodies would make Mynmar look genocidal. All of this is happening because the Rohingya are a different ethnicity.

They're martyrs, not bravenak. This forum just thrives on drama but ignores real issues. I don't even bother posting a thread about it since it will just sink to the bottom like all the other threads with 0-6 recs.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141864006
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113320424
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113320317

Response to NobodyHere (Reply #203)

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
194. It's hilarious how suddenly the F-word is the worst thing in the world.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 05:54 PM
Oct 2017

Behold, the power of bravenak.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
215. Twitter has been going after trolls who attack others on its site.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:01 PM
Oct 2017

I was banned for a week after attacking Sarah Huckabee and her daddy.

Money has nothing to do with the upgrade in Twitter characters. lol

They upgraded my account- From what I have seen its mostly longterm users that have been given an upgrade. Almost all of my followers from 2009 have been given 250 characters.

Voltaire2

(13,056 posts)
217. I read in another thread that this person also got banned from reddit.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:03 PM
Oct 2017

Banned from posting on Du. twitter, and reddit.

So basically this person does not last long on social media that has controls to suppress flaming and trolling. So it could be a) that there is a vast conspiracy to get this poster booted off of social media sites, or it could be that b) this person does not follow the rules.

I'm not familiar with the poster in question, but I have to go with 'b'.

Voltaire2

(13,056 posts)
324. banned from posting
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:02 AM
Oct 2017

And my understanding is that "flagged for review" is a more or less permanent state.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
220. Just want to make a comment.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:20 PM
Oct 2017

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I don't post much any more. i do come by daily to read. I left late last summer as the forums took ever nastier turns, then I was gone even longer due to a serious illness. I generally have tried to keep my disagreements as civil as I can and will hold my ground when I hold a strong viewpoint.

Bravenak is my friend. Like her, I started off liking Sanders but he gradually lost me and for some of the same reasons Brave and others chose other candidates. I articulated what was missing for me and I still hold that view. It is a person's right to do so.

It is also a person's right to defend themselves when set upon as Brave did when she had enough. I left rather than subject myself to over the top hostility and abuse. Brave was expelled. Agree with her or not, Brave stands on a fault line on the left, unflinchingly points to it, and demands that we recognize it as a blind spot. It is a fault line which has been opening to swallow too many since the election. For that, she has my admiration.

Sarandon has used her fame to the detriment of millions by throwing her support in the general election behind Trump, who stands in opposition to every value the left holds dear. There is no nobility of purpose to such a destructive act. Trump has played footsy with an adversary and threatened our national security and elections. He has given Nazis and KKK power and is institutionalizing their ideologies. Every nonwhite person, nonChristian, LGBTQ person, and female is now at risk to be assaulted, imprisoned, or otherwise mistreated. He has also turned government into a personal piggy bank for himself and his cronies. He has taken us all to the brink of a nuclear world war while tearing apart every agreement we have been a party to. For these reasons, Sarandon has neither my admiration or respect. If you do not recognize the fault line by now, as Sarandon obviously does not, you are part of the problem.

Our nation is in serious trouble now in hundreds of ways. I don't think Brave is one of them.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
230. This. This.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 07:50 PM
Oct 2017

This should be an OP all on it's own. All of it!

This part touched my heart,

Sarandon has used her fame to the detriment of millions by throwing hers support in the general election behind Trump, who stands in opposition to every value the left holds dear. There is no nobility of purpose to such a destructive act. Trump has played footsy with an adversary and threatened our national security and elections. He has given Nazis and KKK power and is institutionalizing their ideologies. Every nonwhite person, nonChristian, LGBTQ person, and female is now at risk to be assaulted, imprisoned, or otherwise mistreated. He has also turned government into a personal piggy bank for himself and his cronies. He has taken us all to the brink of a nuclear world war while rearing apart every agreement we have been a party to. For these reasons, Sarandon has neither my admiration or respect. If you do not recognize the fault line by now, as Sarandon obviously does not, you are part of the problm.


Thank you and tears that some just don't understand this.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
251. Excellent post.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:39 PM
Oct 2017


As you said, this nation is in danger -- not from Bravenak cursing at Susan Sarandon -- but from the people who are now in charge of our nation's government and putting us on the brink of a nuclear World War III that might obliterate us all. We have bigger fish to fry, IMO, than picking Bravenak apart when she's not even here to defend herself.

brer cat

(24,574 posts)
264. *This*
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:16 PM
Oct 2017

Sarandon was a big part of the problem; Bravenak stood up for those who would be hurt most by the idiot Sarandon was trying to unleash on the world just so she could play revolutionary. Unfortunately for Bravenak, many people would like to kill the messenger rather than contemplate the message.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
266. WOW Skidmore! That is such an excellent post, thank you.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:18 PM
Oct 2017

You are so totally correct. Such eloquence and insight. "set upon", that really nails it, too, as it was very apparent.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
235. Getting banned is kind of her schtick.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:00 PM
Oct 2017

I'm sure Twitter will let her back on after review.

I suspect she'll be back on DU, too, someday.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
241. thanks for this OP
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 08:14 PM
Oct 2017

I have had my understanding of the anti-bravenak crowd here updated.....she's not profane, or a nobody or will she be silenced by the majority of people who hate her because she puts the truth about white privileged and entitled ameriKKKa out there. Many have 'outed' themselves, putting understanding of hate for Bravenak in clear and concise perspective, racially...thanks..

brer cat

(24,574 posts)
273. These threads have been very revealing.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 09:29 PM
Oct 2017

She is certainly a thorn in the side of the sanctimonious crew.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
299. Wow, have they ever. Quite the hypocritical underbelly has been exposed. Seems
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:28 PM
Oct 2017

that poor susan was wronged, and the disgusting racist and sexist spew from her followers was of no account at all.

I also love how those who are so concerned about decency - which to them equals not saying "Fuck you" to a public figure on twitter - think nothing of piling on someone who can't defend herself.

I can't believe how ugly this is.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
317. Oh I can believe
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:43 AM
Oct 2017

the ugliness here. I see, and have been updated in seeing a lot of people here for who they really are. Sarandon is a fucking idiot, but because of who she is, a movie star with white supremacist views, she is the victim if a POC calls her out on her racism and stupidity. He ain't my president and anyone for him is against every POC in the world, whether they admit it or whether they are consciously aware of their stupidity, racism and ignorance. Which, quiet as it's kept, a lot can't get that deep in understanding just who they are. Not a fucking clue.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
323. Is This A Threat?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:46 AM
Oct 2017

If so, we don't give two flying f's about Bravenek or her Twitter ban when an Insane, Sadistic Person is in the White House. #DealWithIt

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
330. And many, especially me, don't give
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:55 AM
Oct 2017

"one flying fuck" about how those on here with negative comments about Bravenak feel, Inconsequential is the operative word/feeling here on the 'victim's' of Bravenak's truth on white privileged, racist society. Not one flying fuck...understand? You anti-bravenak people outed yourself, I didn't have to do a thing. No threats to make you do it, no cajoling, you did it yourself... didn't have to do a thing...

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
339. What the fuck? No, it's not a threat. And there is absolutely NO reason for you to think it
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:50 PM
Oct 2017

is and accuse the poster of threatening you.

But what a terrific way to manufacture drama and to vilify someone unfairly. I'm sure it won't be the last time I see it.

Honestly wondering how low people are going to go with this nonsense. Congrats on exceeding expectations!

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
329. No
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:55 AM
Oct 2017

I have been a member before. Since 2004. My information was lost in the attack and whatever email I signed up under I long ago forgot.

Thanks for your interest.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
314. It is my funny
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:38 AM
Oct 2017

that Sarandon contributed to taking the nation down. I have no respect for her. None.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
338. You must realize you are agreeing with Bravenak's assessment that Sarandon
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:05 PM
Oct 2017

sic'ed her trolls on her. That was exactly Bravenak's point about Sarandon's "two simple words."

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
350. Not in the least. SS was cool, calm, collected...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:32 AM
Oct 2017

and didn't resort to profanity or name-calling after Bravenak tried to be cute with her "fuck Sarandon" images. Two clever little words, outmaneuvering Bravenak (which she didn't like, cried foul, then played the victim per usual). Twitter is nothing but trolls, and SS and Bravenak followers went at each other - it's how the game is played.

"You take your chances," as Skinner has said. Bravenak took her chances on Twitter (and DU, for that matter) and it came back to bite her in the ass. But it's what she wants -- attention -- so brav-o, grrrrrl. Mission accomplished.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
351. Wrong, Bravenak was also calm, cool and collected. She explained exactly what was happening,
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 11:39 AM
Oct 2017

and you obviously agree with her because you are explaining it exactly as she described, lol. "Twitter is nothing but trolls" "It's how the game is played." That's EXACTLY what Bravenak was describing.

Susan Sarandon is a foul-mouthed internet troll with a following of trolls who attack people who dare to say anything about certain Senators. We all see what is happening. Following her to Twitter and elsewhere is the "game." It doesn't mean anything about Bravenak except that she is being targeted because she is obviously too effective with her messaging. Looks to me like she is the one "outmaneuvering" all her trolls.

Here's Susan being foul-mouthed:


Here's Susan trolling for Ralph Nader. Such a nasty troll she is -- wrong 100% of the time!


SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
352. Two simple words sent Bravenak into victim mode.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 12:39 PM
Oct 2017

We know how she plays the game -- saw it first-hand on DU -- so, seriously, don't bother. She was outwitted and didn't like it.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
354. Wrong, she merely posted a collage that mimicked Sarandon's own
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 12:58 PM
Oct 2017

"Fuck them".* Then she was harassed by Sarandon's trolls. We have seen it before, not just with Susan Sarandon. She was trolled to try and shut her down. That's the "game" you stated in your previous post. Looks like you know a lot about the "game" since you mentioned it and know it in detail. Looks like Bravenak has your number.

All your obsession with this is proving is exactly what she described -- people are following her to harass her.

*Here's Sarandon's foul-mouthed comment that was turned around on her:

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
357. It's obvious she does. Your obsession about her and where she posts
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:36 PM
Oct 2017

outside of here means you are part of her fan club.



R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
360. Is this part of the "game" you referenced in your earlier posts? Where
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:41 PM
Oct 2017

you try to make things about me instead of the obsession with bravenak and where she posts on the internet?

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
362. If it is, you're playing it...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:02 PM
Oct 2017

by trying to make it about me by suggesting that I'm obsessed with the "brave" one. I guess the next step is for one of us to cry foul and play the victim, like the master.

Like with Drumpf, I want her to keep posting. It's always entertaining when perpetually wrong loudmouths are set straight. Entertaining, but not enough for me to become active on Twitter -- the occasional tweet shared here at DU is enough of the drama.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
364. More of the game where you try and make it about me??
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:11 PM
Oct 2017


You obviously care very deeply about what bravenak says and where or whether she is punished for it, so she obviously has your number. She explained that the Twitter trolls would be coming for her, and she was right about that. You just confirmed here that you like to see her "set straight", so you admit again your pleasure in bravenak being followed. You just keep confirming with your own words about your interest in bravenak.



And she didn't "cry foul" -- that is just more intentional distortion.



Squinch

(50,955 posts)
340. And how do you feel about the disgusting racist and sexist pile-on of Bravenak after that?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:55 PM
Oct 2017

Seems like everyone here is pretty happy about that.

Very telling.

Have you ever written anything to the effect of "Fuck you Donald Trump"? And if you did, did people come after you about your race and your gender with some really disgusting tweets? Did they insult your family and threaten your safety? And if they did, do you support the fact that they did that?

Yeah. Try justifying this without tying yourself in a knot. I'm really eager to watch.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
353. I don't like any racist or sexist pile-ons, but Twitter is full of...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 12:51 PM
Oct 2017

racist and sexist pile-ons, and I tend to avoid such a toxic environment. Let's face it, good ol' "Brave" has made social media enemies with her anti-Semitic and yay-old-white-men-are-dying-off comments (not to mention the phony hate mail and big, bad male relative coming to her rescue (always the damsel in distress!). She and her followers need to understand that if she's going to fling shit, it's going to be flung back... she's in NO position to cry foul and play victim.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
368. So I guess you won't answer my question, and you are condoning the vile racist and sexist
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:52 PM
Oct 2017

response to Bravenak. Because, hey, vile racism and sexism are OK when you don't like their target, amiright?



R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
369. This is a laughable distortion. None of what you've
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:59 PM
Oct 2017

distorted is the reason for trolls following her. You keep validating her observations that she is being trolled to shut her up.

She was also quoted recently in an article about Clinton's voters--guess you missed it. Further proof her views are mainstream.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
341. I have only a giant fuck you for for Susan...I despise her. I like Bravenak...but not that Stein
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:15 PM
Oct 2017

supporting heartless entitled check your privilege B rated actress who wants a revolution to add meaning to her empty stupid life...go away Susan...just go away.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
303. May I say something about Bravenak without getting in trouble?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:38 PM
Oct 2017

Bravenak had to be brave. And will never be anything less than awesome.

'nuf said.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
321. They brought the fight to Bravenak, not the other way around, just to be clear.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:56 AM
Oct 2017

Her post saying fuck Susan Sarandon was on her feed, but didn't @ Sarandon. It was some lame ass hater or troll who brought it to Sarandon's attention and then SS brought it to the attention of her horde. Who then went on the attack against Bravenak with a vengeance.

Fuck Susan Sarandon and fuck her horde of Twitter idiots. Bravenak will be back posting shortly and all they've managed to do is give her more attention and a larger following on Twitter. What a bunch of stupid, ineffective, idiot trolls.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
342. Banned from DU, Banned from Kos, Banned from Twitter, is anyone else seeing a pattern here?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:27 PM
Oct 2017

Maybe it's not the world against Bravenak, maybe it's Bravenak against the world (badly).

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
345. Don't irritate her fan club.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:02 PM
Oct 2017

Amazing they cannot see how she causes her own troubles.

Guess she's gonna need a new screen name.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
349. I don't do Twitter and I'm considering closing my fb account.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:18 AM
Oct 2017

But because I connect with family and animal/environmental rights activists through fb I'm still there.

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