There will not be gun control

[D_Master81]

I see posts on here about what needs to be done. I see posts on the stats on gun violence in America. Yet I wonder if the posters here on DU really understand nothing will likely ever be done. Look at what we're arguing about, background checks. We cant even get background checks through while republicans are making it easier to get a silencer.

Living here in the middle of gun nut usa I hear the arguements and know how people feel. They fear the government and see guns as protection against tyranny. They will say guns dont kill people they can kill with knives and rocks. They use phrases like "responsible gun owners" not realizing that shows they know theres a problem. No one says responsible knife, machete, baseball bat, etc owner.

Should dems ever push through gun control it would take a majority larger than in 08. So all the posts are really wasting energy and time. You may need a place to vent, but realize nothing will happen, likely ever.

[exboyfil]

1. You are right

I see it around me living in a rural state. The Economist explained that the hunting and hobby shooting mostly occurs in the red states while the externalities occur in the blue cities and states. You cannot have gun control in Chicago if the gun shop in Indiana is closer than one part of the city is to another part.

[HopeAgain]

2. At some point it is going to get so out of control

Then it will happen. Maybe the next time it will be 600 people, or maybe it will be government leaders. But it is escalating, and at some point something drastic will have to happen.

Gun violence is only going to keep getting worse.

[D_Master81]

7. it wont matter

It doesnt matter how many people are killed. it could be 1000 people, 10, 000 people. The argument will still be, its the person not the gun. Which is true a gun doesnt fire itself. So the argument sticks and the circle continues. I just heard someone say "if the gun is the problem why do we put the person in prison and not the gun. If you put a person in jail you admit the person not the gun is the problem". Literally just heard that live on rw radio.

[HopeAgain]

10. Guns don't kill people...

people with guns kill a lot more people than without guns.

[haele]

14. Gun Violence might get out of control, but the fearful will cling more tightly to their guns.

Note: I'm talking about the wanna-be militia members and frankly, the people who buy guns not because there's an actual purpose, but because they're expecting The Purge or the Commie-Liberal Bureaucratic hordes to order the Military to take away everyone's gunz and force them to sing Kumbaya, give up Christianity, and bow to some Great Tree-hugging Satanic Liberal Leader while their country and traditions burn around them.

They'll buy arsenals, because building walls and bunkers and holing up is the quick fix to any discomfort, confusion or conflict with their neighbors. It's fight or flight at its most basic.

The gun fetish population (as opposed to those who take care when they use weapons as tools or for recreation - hunters, rural residents, and people who are expected to be armed as part of the work description) don't want to make any effort to change whatever stereotypes, racial/gender/class conflicts or whatever else needs to be done to slow down the violence - they just want to make sure they remain "respected" and "in control" and there's nothing that's going to hurt or their stuff.

And that no one points out they're the least bit fearful of anything.

Haele

[LibArts]

15. Yes it will happen

It has to. This issue is out of control and the rednecks better start agreeing or they will lose their toys.

NO AMMO WITHOUT STRINGENT TOUGH TESTS

[CrispyQ]

3. I fear you are right. We are caught in a loop. This sad cartoon is from 2012.

[yuiyoshida]

4. Maybe in a few generations from now...

If there are any generations left...that is.

[old guy]

5. Nothing will happen is the correct answer.

There is only one way to put the genie back in the lamp and that is confiscation and it will never happen. There are many plans to regulate arms and those will never get acceptance either. Living in this country now means that we accept all the senseless death and violence as a way of life because this is the land of the free and the home of the gun. I wish it could be different.

[Johonny]

6. Trump can bully NFL players but not the NRA.

anti-Gun control is a well organized and funded cult and it's clear the White House has no back bone to fight against it.

[LibArts]

16. EXCELLENT POST

Too bad you cant send that to Mr Orange

[struggle4progress]

8. Never pretend to know what we can accomplish and what we cannot

[Skidmore]

9. Sad that they have already

chosen their tyrants. By the time these people realize that, all of those private arsenals they were allowed to amass so they can feel safe and in control won't mean a thing.

[Calista241]

11. i can see them doing away with bump stocks.

Maybe outlawing any modifications that increase fire rate.

[SoCalMusicLover]

12. Nope, Sorry

Try again.

[Calista241]

13. i don't see why you'd discount that.

The NRA is 100% behind the current laws regulating automatic firearms. Outlawing modifications to change existing legal firearm functionality to replicate functionality that is illegal doesn't seem like too far a stretch.

They can give on this, they're not really giving up anything, and everyone can feel good.

The NRA is going to get reciprocity passed next year anyway, which will be a big, big win for them and their constituency. Giving up something like Bump stocks, that manufacturers probably aren't very happy about anyway, doesn't seem like too bad an exchange for them.

[maxsolomon]

17. It took 40+ years to get to this point.

This is the high-water mark of Gun Crazy.

It will take 40+ years to get to sanity. But I won't live to see it.

[Initech]

18. Nope. Not a god damn thing will be done about it.

Every fucking shooting we hear the same thing from chicken shit conservatives - its not the time to talk about gun control. When is the right time? Ever?

And now you have fucking conservative troll sites like Infowars, Brietbart, and Prison Planet trying to bait conservatives into thinking every mass shooter is a liberal and its part of a liberal conspiracy to take your guns away. But they're not, and that's only going to further infuriate them against us. Almost like they're trying to intentionally incite a civil war. On top of that, we have a president who is doing nothing and making things worse. At some point this shit has to stop.

[HeartachesNhangovers]

19. Not true! The legislatures in California, Illinois,

New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts will pass some poorly-thought out, probably-illegal, certainly-ineffective rifle-control measures, claim they are "standing up to the NRA", and push all the gun owners in those states who aren't mass murderers further to the right.