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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 06:43 PM Oct 2017

The NRA devil will never be defeated if media continue to actively sanitize mass murder scenes.

Does the general public have even a hazy awareness of he amount of human
blood and guts spilled at Sandy Hook, Orlando and LV?

Yet not a drop of blood has been shown. The horrible firepower of these guns can only be imagined and that is not nearly enough. 1000's killed or injured in a nation where there is no shortage of violent imagery. Few delicate flowers in America would be much upset..just check out the violence in media on TV, movies, etc. So what is he holdup?

There needs to be imagery shock and awe. What is the media afraid of
...the truth? Isn't that your job? To tell the truth? Why stop when there is a mass murder? Afraid of the NRA? Et tu American media? And I note when there is foreign violence against not white folks...violent imagery being shown is AOK. Just saying.


Oh, and fuck you NRA and your plethora of childish and illogical fucked up justifications.

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The NRA devil will never be defeated if media continue to actively sanitize mass murder scenes. (Original Post) Fred Sanders Oct 2017 OP
Every politician refusing to do something should be forced to physically clean up the Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #1
They should be frogmarched onto a flight to LV, Ilsa Oct 2017 #12
Alex Jones too. Initech Oct 2017 #15
This is America, they dont have to abide by the rules or the law, for that matter Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #16
money is power burnbaby Oct 2017 #2
The next crazy is seeing just how to do it & is already plotting how he can kill 1,000 Motley13 Oct 2017 #3
The media needs to start publishing/airing all footage and crime scene photos of these events. LonePirate Oct 2017 #4
If these mass murders handy work were shown even a little. The whole conversation would Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #5
The worst I've seen is, of course, on social media loyalsister Oct 2017 #6
Your last line is the glaring truth. Few know of the gore and blood where 58 were slaughtered Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #8
It's difficult to comprehend loyalsister Oct 2017 #10
Not arguing DashOneBravo Oct 2017 #7
I do not want one child shown. I want the crime scene shown. A scene created by one Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #9
I understand DashOneBravo Oct 2017 #13
Oh shit - I am sure the media would LOVE if that was the norm - blood and guts in prime time? 24/7 jmg257 Oct 2017 #11
100% agree superpatriotman Oct 2017 #14
Sad but true... world wide wally Oct 2017 #17
I know why she did not show the world, but Noah Posner's mother from the Sandy Hook Massacre told us phylny Oct 2017 #18
Wow. DashOneBravo Oct 2017 #20
The bigger problem is their treatment of the debate as both sides being equal JI7 Oct 2017 #19
What is needed is this sharedvalues Oct 2017 #21
Terrorist lover Dana. Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #22

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
1. Every politician refusing to do something should be forced to physically clean up the
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 06:46 PM
Oct 2017

bodies.

Pick up the dead bodies and body parts.

Sadly, even if they had to my fear is most of them are such sociopaths it wouldnt matter.

Ilsa

(61,696 posts)
12. They should be frogmarched onto a flight to LV,
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:26 PM
Oct 2017

and not allowed to leave until they sweep up the guts, wash the concrete, and then be forced to wear the bloody sneakers for the next week.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
15. Alex Jones too.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:31 PM
Oct 2017

If he is going to do to Las Vegas what he did to Sandy Hook, he needs to be arrested and tried for inciting violence. Same with those assholes on 4Chan.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
16. This is America, they dont have to abide by the rules or the law, for that matter
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:32 PM
Oct 2017

Here only those on the left have to.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
3. The next crazy is seeing just how to do it & is already plotting how he can kill 1,000
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 06:53 PM
Oct 2017

but of course, now is not the time to have a discussion. Patience, the next mass killing is coming soon.


LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
4. The media needs to start publishing/airing all footage and crime scene photos of these events.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 06:54 PM
Oct 2017

Nothing could humanize these events more than reminding people how fragile life is and how much carnage gun lovers want to inflict upon their fellow Americans.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. If these mass murders handy work were shown even a little. The whole conversation would
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:00 PM
Oct 2017

be different. So, fuck you American media, the blood is also on your hands

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
6. The worst I've seen is, of course, on social media
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:04 PM
Oct 2017


"From a victim in Vegas..Thomas Gunderson) who was shot in the leg at this concert:
"I want to say this right now while it's fresh. People PLEASE listen to me! There are bad people in this world, but tonight, I saw every race and gender come together to save lives and protect each other. I had women tie my leg up to stop bleeding, I have men carrying me and I had many black officers and civilians holding my hand and staying with me every second of the way. Our president is far from perfect, but the divide this country is being created by media and the select few cases that they spread world wide. But you don't get to see the good in people. I'm lying in my hospital bed right now in tears, not because I'm injured but because I did my best to save lives and not once did I see color of gender. Nor did anyone else. My friends, please please take a step back, turn off the tv and go love the person next to you. Black, white, Mexican, straight, gay or anything else. Love on them and show that we are united as one in this country and NO ONE, no matter how hard they try, can break us! Ever!"


What I resisted saying when my sister posted it: "It is not possible for a person to turn any of this into a moment of unity without throwing out all compassion for the victims, survivors, and all of their friends and family members. I understand that people want to protect themselves from horrifying images and events because it may bring them down. But to ignore the bloody and horrifying reality is to permit it to happen again and again."

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Your last line is the glaring truth. Few know of the gore and blood where 58 were slaughtered
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:07 PM
Oct 2017

and 500 shot and bleeding.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. It's difficult to comprehend
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:20 PM
Oct 2017

But we all know that what the victims saw and experienced had to be horrifying, and it is the product of a dismissal of the inescapable fact that these kinds of events happen often and we have done nothing to stop or minimize the carnage.

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
7. Not arguing
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:05 PM
Oct 2017

I see your point. I think everyone should see what happens when we send people into combat on both sides. We should also show what they look like years later.

But I don't see how showing someone's dead child from Sandy Hook would do any good. If they blur out the faces I'd think the parents would always wonder. Seems a bit too far.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. I do not want one child shown. I want the crime scene shown. A scene created by one
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:11 PM
Oct 2017

person and a legal arsenal. A fucking legal arsenal in a state where you could buy a thousand if you want...such arsenals seem only to be used in mass murders as what else is an arsenal good for?
.




DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
13. I understand
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:28 PM
Oct 2017

Again not arguing. Do you want to show the chunks of flesh, brains, intestines and feces too? Cause that's what's left besides the rolls of bloody gauze and empty packets from the medics.

That arsenal was built for one thing. Killing people.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
11. Oh shit - I am sure the media would LOVE if that was the norm - blood and guts in prime time? 24/7
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:23 PM
Oct 2017

loops of graphic carnage??

Ratings!!!

world wide wally

(21,751 posts)
17. Sad but true...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:39 PM
Oct 2017

Show the acts of carnage to the public. Nothing else fucking sinks in. Who do they think they are protecting?

phylny

(8,383 posts)
18. I know why she did not show the world, but Noah Posner's mother from the Sandy Hook Massacre told us
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:39 PM
Oct 2017

Skip if you don't like to read a graphic description of the aftermath of horrific violence.

“We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away. I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.”

Zeveloff asks Pozner how she came to make the decision to view Noah’s body, and what tears at your soul about it is the essence of her statement — because who among us would not feel the exact same way?

Veronique Pozner replied:

“I owed it to him as his mother, the good, the bad, the ugly… It is not up to me to say I am only going to look at you and deal with you when you are alive, that I am going to block out the reality of what you look like when you are dead. And as a little boy, you have to go in the ground. If I am going to shut my eyes to that I am not his mother. I had to bear it. I had to do it.”

https://www.inquisitr.com/469181/noah-pozners-mom-describes-newtown-victims-body-and-why-we-should-all-listen/

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
20. Wow.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 08:05 PM
Oct 2017

Exactly. I've seen dead children before and it's not something you forget. I'm also a parent and wouldn't want anyone else to see that.

One of the things I heard about Sandy Hook was that the officers told the responding officers. If you have kids don't go in there. I don't know if it's true or not.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
21. What is needed is this
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 08:12 PM
Oct 2017

Dana Loesch, you are partially responsible for the people who got killed.

Yes, you. Dana. You're at fault for supporting the NRA.

59 people's blood is on your hands, Dana.





Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
22. Terrorist lover Dana.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:50 PM
Oct 2017

A terrorist from a terrorist entity. No wonder ISIS tries to take 'credit'. They are brothers and sisters joined by love of violence and fear.

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