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struggle4progress

(118,338 posts)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:53 PM Oct 2017

Puerto Ricans are going to flee

By Jay Fonseca and Leo Aldridge
October 3 at 5:13 PM

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — The five-hour lines at Puerto Rico’s main airport to get off the island do not make for a good omen ...

... We were waiting for a Marshall Plan, something announcing the rebuilding of Puerto Rico. What we got was more congratulations for his own administration. Instead of showing compassion for the most vulnerable, he went to visit the richest areas of the island ...

Boarding a plane out of Luis Muñoz Marin airport, a usually uneventful affair for Puerto Ricans accustomed to visiting their families on the mainland, has become, after Maria’s devastation, a life-altering event. Puerto Ricans carrying as much luggage as they can tearfully say their goodbyes to their loved ones. They are simply not coming back. And the people they are leaving behind don’t want them to return to what has devolved into a chaotic cocktail of material shortages and, perhaps worse, a dearth of hope.

At the airport, screams of joy, nostalgic tears and pent-up guilt mix when passengers clear the Transportation Security Administration line and reach the departure area. The TSA line is Puerto Rico’s new border, and thousands upon thousands of people want to cross it to escape an island paradise that vanished as soon as the hurricane hit amid bankruptcy and fuel lines reminiscent of the 1973 gas shortage — a cash-only economy, where ice is the most sought-after commodity ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/10/03/puerto-ricans-are-going-to-flee-if-president-trump-doesnt-fix-hurricane-relief/?utm_term=.c2719d281601

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Puerto Ricans are going to flee (Original Post) struggle4progress Oct 2017 OP
THey Can Now Vote Their Revenge Me. Oct 2017 #1
I was going to say ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #2
they will be going to bdamomma Oct 2017 #4
Yes ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #17
Exactly Me. Oct 2017 #10
They've already got an invitation to come to Chicago frazzled Oct 2017 #3
That's right the welcome has been declared in Chicago. Already, about 1,600 Puerto Rican residents lunasun Oct 2017 #18
Can we convince them to change the demo in a Red state like MS? TeamPooka Oct 2017 #21
For over a week I've been predicting that these will be America's first global warming refugees... Hekate Oct 2017 #5
I so agree eleny Oct 2017 #13
The story of the atolls of the Pacific haunt me. They are so tiny, but have supported a culture... Hekate Oct 2017 #19
Their predicament breaks my heart eleny Oct 2017 #24
I heard on MSNBC today that about 1 million PR citizens are BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #6
Lets try to get them to GA, NC, FL, ... unc70 Oct 2017 #7
Damn right! Brainstormy Oct 2017 #9
Hispanics generally vote republican. cwydro Oct 2017 #11
I have researched. 65-80% Dem for president unc70 Oct 2017 #14
Puerto Ricans are mostly Democrats. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #15
If that is true, that's good. cwydro Oct 2017 #26
They vote in the primaries. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #27
No they don't. Only cubans did but even there is a huge age gap JI7 Oct 2017 #16
No. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2017 #20
10,000 Dem voters who loathe hate and despise IMPOTUS. fierywoman Oct 2017 #12
that picture Skittles Oct 2017 #8
They'll fix Puerto Rico after Jared buys up property for pennies on the dollar Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #22
I hope they settle quite nicely in areas like Florida, North Carolina and Texas! Tatiana Oct 2017 #23
If this trend continues to grow, watch for the Trump administration MineralMan Oct 2017 #25
Perhaps he'll try to build a wall. cwydro Oct 2017 #28
More likely, they'll try to use some sort of medical reason MineralMan Oct 2017 #29
Yes, I can believe that. cwydro Oct 2017 #30
Yup. A quarantine on PR would be something that might MineralMan Oct 2017 #31

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. Yes
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:35 PM
Oct 2017

I bet one group of registers could set up at each of the larger airports and manage to get 50%+ of the new voters.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. They've already got an invitation to come to Chicago
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:57 PM
Oct 2017

And they'd be very welcome here (there's an established Puerto Rican community here already).

Of course, the winters are a bit harsh--but it beats hurricane season.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. That's right the welcome has been declared in Chicago. Already, about 1,600 Puerto Rican residents
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:36 PM
Oct 2017

have come to resettle since the devastation
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/mayor-chicago-welcomes-puerto-ricans-fleeing-their-destroyed-homes/
I ate PR food at a restaurant tonight . There is already a community in the city
Also

Twenty-three members of the Chicago Fire Department will travel to Puerto Rico Wednesday with defibrillators, stretchers, communications equipment and other supplies. The delegation will spend 10 days on the island and provide an on-the-ground assessment of resources needed, officials said.

The first supplies to reach Puerto Rico were food, water and baby formula donated by Chicago, Gutiérrez said.

That "speaks volumes" about Chicago's commitment to helping those battered by the hurricane, Emanuel said.

Emanuel called the federal government's response to Hurricane Maria as "totally inadequate, and I'm being gentle with my criticism of it."

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
5. For over a week I've been predicting that these will be America's first global warming refugees...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:59 PM
Oct 2017

Trump's response makes it all but inevitable. What are the Puerto Ricans and Virgin Islanders supposed to do?

The island looks like it's been bombed back to the Stone Age, and Trump makes it all about him and the necessity of kissing his wrinkly orange ass in order to get anything out of him.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
13. I so agree
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:23 PM
Oct 2017

I believe that there's one small Pacific island population that had to look for a new place to inhabit due to slowly rising waters. But no American population has had to emigrate like what will no doubt happen with Puerto Rico. It's almost hard to process that this is actually happening.

And if Trump thinks it'll be an ideal place to rebuild as a wealthy resort island - good luck. Remember when New Orleans was predicted to be bought up for upscale housing? A remodeled city? I haven't heard about that coming to pass. That concept is a non starter in this age of massive icebergs collapsing off Antarctica.

Your reply in this thread ought to be a new thread of its own!

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
19. The story of the atolls of the Pacific haunt me. They are so tiny, but have supported a culture...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:55 PM
Oct 2017

...for thousands of years in Micronesia and Polynesia. The sea has begun to submerge them -- has been for some years now. They have been the true canaries in the coal mine -- but virtually unnoticed by the rest of the world.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
24. Their predicament breaks my heart
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 09:50 AM
Oct 2017

But the right wing majority in U.S. government didn't give a darn.

Well, now that the first wave of a million climate refugee voters are legally moving to the mainland they'll have to take notice.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
6. I heard on MSNBC today that about 1 million PR citizens are
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:00 PM
Oct 2017

going to migrate to other areas of the country like FL.

Climate change is creating many new and increasing changes that vary from migration, to war, to economic collapse, to new epidemics, etc.

Brainstormy

(2,381 posts)
9. Damn right!
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:05 PM
Oct 2017

I'm already working here in Georgia to help with PR relocation. They will be needed, and welcome, here.

unc70

(6,119 posts)
14. I have researched. 65-80% Dem for president
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:25 PM
Oct 2017

The older Cuban American community in Florida mostly votes Repub. Others lean Democratic.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
26. If that is true, that's good.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 10:25 AM
Oct 2017

But since they cannot vote in our presidential elections, how do you know that?

The shitgibbon sure got a warm welcome there.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
23. I hope they settle quite nicely in areas like Florida, North Carolina and Texas!
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 12:59 AM
Oct 2017

I know many are settling in Chicago and New York, but I hope relatives in some red states and open up their hearts to help settle some Puerto Ricans as well.

This could really turn the tide for us in Florida. Especially if we are successful with the gerrymandering case before the Supreme Court.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
25. If this trend continues to grow, watch for the Trump administration
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 10:20 AM
Oct 2017

to try desperately to find a way to stop it. They'll forget that Puerto Ricans are US citizens and are free to travel as they choose, and try to find some mechanism to prevent the influx.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
28. Perhaps he'll try to build a wall.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 10:27 AM
Oct 2017

He's a moron, and he completely does not get the enormity of this.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
29. More likely, they'll try to use some sort of medical reason
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 10:29 AM
Oct 2017

to limit travel from PR to the continental US. Watch for it. Zika? Cholera? Who can say?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
30. Yes, I can believe that.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 10:33 AM
Oct 2017

I wouldn't be surprised if they're having meetings about just that thing right now.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
31. Yup. A quarantine on PR would be something that might
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 10:38 AM
Oct 2017

be proposed. Interestingly enough, The Department of Health and Human Services is without a permanent Secretary right now, following the resignation of Tom Price. The Acting Secretary of HHS is now Don Wright. I don't know anything about him, but will go have a look.

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