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packman

(16,296 posts)
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:42 PM Oct 2017

Cats, ammo, and expired driver license - How ridiculous is this?

From a posting at Media Matters:


The simple fact is that it is too easy for criminals and psychopaths to purchase and possess military grade firearms. Wanna hear the funny and maddening part?

I spaced off and allowed my driver's license to expire. No excuses. It was just a brain fart on my part. Well? My beloved kitty died and i went to get a new cat. I discovered that my license was expired when I tried to get said new cat from the Human Society. They would not give me a cat without a valid and current ID. This would not have been remarkable if I had not, just the day before, purchased a box of shotgun shells with no one questioning me at all. I am, by virtue of my bald pate and gray/white beard, obviously over 18 so I can walk into any store and buy ammunition with no questions asked. That is FUBAR. I'm actually more angry that I could buy ammo than I am angry that I need a current ID to take home a damned cat!



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Cats, ammo, and expired driver license - How ridiculous is this? (Original Post) packman Oct 2017 OP
I absent-mindedly let my drivers' license expire, too, and The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #1
You need a valid ID to purchase a firearm also. ileus Oct 2017 #9
You guys scared me for a second. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #13
A Walmart pharmacy refused to sell me Sudafed because I had a ticket. davsand Oct 2017 #37
Wait... what? druidity33 Oct 2017 #38
Illinois. Traffic stop was a city cop. Less than ten over the limit. davsand Oct 2017 #40
That sounds illegal . . . MrModerate Oct 2017 #46
Illinois state law till Progressive dog Oct 2017 #48
Is this something new? Police confiscating driver licenses when they write a ticket? Fla Dem Oct 2017 #45
Once, I wasn't able to buy lighters from Target TeapotInATempest Oct 2017 #2
That same exact thing happened to me at a Rite Aid pharmacy... GReedDiamond Oct 2017 #12
Me too. Thank goodness safeinOhio Oct 2017 #18
Where I buy what little ammo I need, you have to MineralMan Oct 2017 #3
Different states, and within certain states, some municipalities vary. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #23
True. Caliman73 Oct 2017 #50
If we can all agree on a particular strict-ness of law, then we can unify it at the federal level. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #52
perhaps cats are more dangerous than shotgum shells -- just a thought Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #4
Lol, you might be on to something TeapotInATempest Oct 2017 #10
My cats certainly rule the house with furry iron paws mythology Oct 2017 #14
Cats are natural predators and should not be allowed in the wrong hands marylandblue Oct 2017 #17
a little pudge on that there cat Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #19
He must have eaten his share of criminals.. denbot Oct 2017 #24
how many jobs has that fat cat created? pstokely Oct 2017 #42
"when I tried to get said new cat from the Human Society." ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #5
Ha! Close. pamela Oct 2017 #11
Lets think of the governments reasoning behind this. Doreen Oct 2017 #6
The so-called leaders Scarsdale Oct 2017 #41
Shotgun shells kill people. ileus Oct 2017 #7
If I have scrap aluminum or copper to sell at the recycle place... MindPilot Oct 2017 #8
Kickin' Faux pas Oct 2017 #15
I see your point... TDale313 Oct 2017 #16
Your new cat's gonna love you Kolesar Oct 2017 #20
His cat died, and then he's out of ammunition jberryhill Oct 2017 #28
I thought, seriously at first, this was aimed at me! raven mad Oct 2017 #21
I never understood why an expired Drivers license was invalid for ID purposes. Gore1FL Oct 2017 #22
An expired passport is invalid for ID purposes too crazycatlady Oct 2017 #34
Well, ya know, cats can be extremely dangerous. tclambert Oct 2017 #25
We need to amend the 2nd amendment and scratch out the word arms. iscooterliberally Oct 2017 #26
Clay pigeons are less of a hassle than cats anyway jberryhill Oct 2017 #27
! unblock Oct 2017 #32
Thank god you didn't need any sudafed (nt) matt819 Oct 2017 #29
Background Check For A Cat? Throck Oct 2017 #30
They'd fail crazycatlady Oct 2017 #35
We have three. Throck Oct 2017 #36
My aunt and uncle have 3 crazycatlady Oct 2017 #39
Sounds more like the Three Kleptomaniacs! 😆 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #51
Cat and dog rescues will not allow you to adopt tymorial Oct 2017 #31
one of my cats used to like to beat up big dogs. Maybe they wanted to come demigoddess Oct 2017 #33
Should have gone for a human. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #43
happened to me a few years ago freddyvh Oct 2017 #44
You weren't trying to get a laser cat were you? Ohioboy Oct 2017 #47
I need lawyers, cats, guns and money! PatrickforO Oct 2017 #49
They can't get a gun from a store without an ID either... but they CAN buy gun food (bullets)! JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #53

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
1. I absent-mindedly let my drivers' license expire, too, and
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:47 PM
Oct 2017

when I went to Walgreens to get some Sudafed for a bad cold, they wouldn't let me buy it without a current drivers' license (just in case I might want it to cook meth). So I had to run out and get my license renewed before I could go back to the drugstore for some cold medicine. It's easier to buy bullets than to get OTC medicine for a cold.

I hope you finally got your cat.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
13. You guys scared me for a second.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:12 PM
Oct 2017

Whew! I've got two years left on mine.

So easy to do though. I honestly couldn't have told you if I had two years, two months, or past due on mine if this post hadn't inspired me to check.

I have chronic congestion and I think about the ease of gun and ammo sales every time I go to a drugstore just to breathe better for a few hours.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
37. A Walmart pharmacy refused to sell me Sudafed because I had a ticket.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 04:59 PM
Oct 2017

I got the first speeding ticket of my life the day before. I was driving with the ticket until I could go pay the fine and get my license back. My kid calls me at my office and says she needs cold meds could I stop on my way home and pick some up for her. I almost forget (Yeah, bad mom...) and the last possible place to stop was at that freaking Walmart.

"I need your ID, please." I hand her my ticket.

"That's not gonna work. I need an ID" I said the ticket was what the police officer told me to use.

"Nope. Gotta have a picture." I hand her a Sam's Club ID with my picture and my name both on it.

"Nope. It has to be an official ID" If it's acceptable ID for a company also owned by Walmart, why can't you accept it?

"I'm just doing what I'm told."

I asked for a manager at that point. I got the stupid cold meds, but it took WAY too long. I've never been back.

Did ya finally get your kitty?


Laura

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
38. Wait... what?
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 05:32 PM
Oct 2017

Your ID was confiscated for a speeding ticket? Your first one? Damn, what state do you live in? Why would you give the pharmacy tech a ticket instead of your ID? I've NEVER heard of ID sequestration bc of a speeding ticket. Effed up.

Damn again.......... smh.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
40. Illinois. Traffic stop was a city cop. Less than ten over the limit.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 05:49 PM
Oct 2017

You appear and pay the fine. Then they give you your license back. Seems pretty heavy handed to me too.



Laura

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
46. That sounds illegal . . .
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:38 AM
Oct 2017

Does the state authority know that cops are confiscating licenses? I can't see how a beat cop would have the authority to do that.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
48. Illinois state law till
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:35 AM
Oct 2017

August, 2014 mandated the confiscation of the license in lieu of bond paid to police officer. The ticket could be used as a temporary driver's license.

Fla Dem

(23,691 posts)
45. Is this something new? Police confiscating driver licenses when they write a ticket?
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:35 AM
Oct 2017

I've not gotten a ticket in at least 10 years. So maybe this is new or just in a few places. I would think very inconvenient if you are from out of state or even in a different county.

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
2. Once, I wasn't able to buy lighters from Target
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:48 PM
Oct 2017

because I didn't have my ID on me. The cashier said it was to prevent kids under 18 from buying them. I'm 47.

Guess I should have gone to the ammo store instead.

GReedDiamond

(5,313 posts)
12. That same exact thing happened to me at a Rite Aid pharmacy...
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:12 PM
Oct 2017

...and I was 59 or 60 at the time.

I've never returned to Rite Aid since Walgreens does not have such a stupid policy.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
23. Different states, and within certain states, some municipalities vary.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:07 PM
Oct 2017

A lot of the 'firearms have no regulations' type memes rankle me for this reason. There are regulations. But it's a fucking hodgepodge of federal, state, and local laws. Pretty much have to be a lawyer to know what's up when and where.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
50. True.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 11:42 AM
Oct 2017

California's laws are pretty strict. We need ID to purchase firearms and I have been asked for ID in buying ammunition. It is still pending but we were supposed to have to go through a background check to by ammunition starting in 2017. Think it is tied up in court.

What you said is the reason the NRA and Republicans' stupid Chicago argument is irritating. One jurisdiction can have tougher laws and another one lax laws so guns from the lax jurisdiction are bound to end up in the hands of people who want them anyway, even if they can't get them where they live.

There are some laws in California that I think are over the top, but it is a trade off to live in a decent, mostly progressive state.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
52. If we can all agree on a particular strict-ness of law, then we can unify it at the federal level.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 01:36 AM
Oct 2017

That means New York, New Jersey, and California are going to have to give up a couple things (mostly items that are 'over the top' as you describe) to fix this.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. My cats certainly rule the house with furry iron paws
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:14 PM
Oct 2017

I got the current pair a bit over a year ago. I haven't been allowed to shut the bathroom door since.

denbot

(9,900 posts)
24. He must have eaten his share of criminals..
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:14 PM
Oct 2017

And door to door salesmen, postmen, possibly a moose or two..

ExciteBike66

(2,358 posts)
5. "when I tried to get said new cat from the Human Society."
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

Isn't that the name of George Costanza's fake charity?

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
6. Lets think of the governments reasoning behind this.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:02 PM
Oct 2017

A kitty makes you happy, healthier as animals have proven to do, and things like Sudafed helps keep you healthy.

Guns kill people and reduce the population.

The government does not want people to be happy or healthy so those things are made harder to get.

Guns......well....you know how that works.

enough said.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
41. The so-called leaders
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:12 AM
Oct 2017

should ask themselves "Who will pay taxes for our paychecks, healthcare and retirement checks, if we kill off citizens?" Guess that is too deep for the gop. They are busy reducing taxes for their wealthy donors.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
8. If I have scrap aluminum or copper to sell at the recycle place...
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:05 PM
Oct 2017

They photocopy my ID, record my fingerprint, and take my picture posing with the aforementioned scrap metal.

Because i might have stolen it.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
16. I see your point...
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:19 PM
Oct 2017

But I am actually glad that they do some level of IDing before adopting out an animal. Should they do that for ammo? Yeah, probably. I think of the hoops I have to jump through to buy sudafed. Maybe it should be tracked at least at that level.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
21. I thought, seriously at first, this was aimed at me!
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 02:14 PM
Oct 2017

LOL! Also expired ID/DL........................ and a very sick kitty.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
22. I never understood why an expired Drivers license was invalid for ID purposes.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:00 PM
Oct 2017

I get that it is invalid to drive with. The identification information doesn't change.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
34. An expired passport is invalid for ID purposes too
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 04:29 PM
Oct 2017

(Of course I was 9 when my passport picture was taken).

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
25. Well, ya know, cats can be extremely dangerous.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:18 PM
Oct 2017

We don't want criminals or terrorists or psychopaths to have cats. Look what happened with Blofeld . . .



Oops, sorry. Wrong guy.




iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
26. We need to amend the 2nd amendment and scratch out the word arms.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:18 PM
Oct 2017

Then write in the word cats instead. Of course then we'd have a bunch of nut jobs walking around with Amur tigers instead.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. Clay pigeons are less of a hassle than cats anyway
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:21 PM
Oct 2017

Cats can wander off the range and cause you to shoot in an unsafe direction.

Your cat died, and you are out of ammunition? You are not fooling me, pal.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
51. Sounds more like the Three Kleptomaniacs! 😆
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 11:44 AM
Oct 2017

Or should that be Ted, Jeffrey and Pogo the Clown?






I'm sorry.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
31. Cat and dog rescues will not allow you to adopt
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:39 PM
Oct 2017

Period unless they like you and believe you will treat the animal with kindness and care. Many wont even consider an adoption unless you meet in person AND have references.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
33. one of my cats used to like to beat up big dogs. Maybe they wanted to come
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:42 PM
Oct 2017

after the cat if he murdered a great dane or doberman.

 

freddyvh

(276 posts)
44. happened to me a few years ago
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 08:54 AM
Oct 2017

i went into a large chain convenience store and got a 6 pack after work.
got to my car, and realized i forgot smokes.

went back in to get smokes, the same person who sold me the beer then carded me for smokes.
but not the beer

hmm

and i was 45 years old and had a head of gray hair

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
53. They can't get a gun from a store without an ID either... but they CAN buy gun food (bullets)!
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 02:16 AM
Oct 2017

Which is pretty much the same situation described for cats:
They can't get a cat from the cat Store (shelter) without an ID but I'm assuming they CAN buy cat food without an ID.
Well, they can't get a gun from a store without an ID either but evidently they CAN buy gun food (bullets).
So their example seems to be more alike than dissimilar.

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