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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:18 PM Oct 2017

Is Trump About to Trigger a Cabinet Suicide Pact? - By Jonathan Chait

Morongate (or, if you prefer, the Moron-Contra scandal) has left President Trump’s relationship with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson understandably tense. Axios reports that not only is Trump’s confidence in Tillerson “broken beyond repair,” the president is floating a succession plan to move CIA director Mike Pompeo into Tillerson’s job. There is, however, one catch.

Earlier this week, John Hudson reported that the firing of Tillerson would trigger the exodus of two other Trump cabinet officials. Hudson’s source, he wrote, “expressed confidence in Tillerson’s status due to a so-called ‘suicide pact’ forged between Defense Secretary James Mattis, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, and Tillerson, whereby all three cabinet secretaries vow to leave in the event that the president makes moves against one of them.”

There are plenty of reasons for skepticism that this suicide pact would actually hold. For one thing, the reason Mattis is working his job is clearly to protect the country from the massive risks to world stability and the rule of law posed by Trump. The exodus of other cabinet officials wouldn’t make this motivation any less compelling, it would make it more compelling. For another, the other two might well make a distinction between a completely random rage-firing and a firing for a justifiable cause like, say, refusing to deny that you called the president a moron — which, even if Trump is a moron, is the kind of statement a cabinet secretary can’t stand behind. Plus, of course, there’s the weird question of what Steve Mnuchin is doing in this group. The presumed characteristics defining the suicide-pact team are some essential role in safeguarding the functions of government, and a presumed disgust with Trump’s ignorance and/or bigotry. Mnuchin would appear to satisfy neither criteria. He has publicly affirmed Trump’s rants about Charlottesville and the NFL protests, which have disgusted even many otherwise pliant Republicans. And his value to the government ranges from negligible to minus-$800,000. Finding a Treasury secretary with a better grasp of conservative policy and a less embarrassing wife seems very doable.

But, still, the suicide pact might well be a real thing. If so, the question becomes whether the three use the threat to safeguard Tillerson’s job, or whether the cabinet is about to see a mass exodus.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/is-trump-about-to-trigger-a-cabinet-suicide-pact.html


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Is Trump About to Trigger a Cabinet Suicide Pact? - By Jonathan Chait (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
Well, firing Tillerson is apparently not on the Friday News Dump Agenda. MineralMan Oct 2017 #1
Idle Threats SoCalMusicLover Oct 2017 #2
Dunno, I am starting to buy the theory that these guys are trying to protect the US emulatorloo Oct 2017 #3
his value to the government ranges from negligible to minus-$800,000. underpants Oct 2017 #4
 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
2. Idle Threats
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:20 PM
Oct 2017

I don't know if they made this so-called suicide pact, but I doubt when push comes to shove, that they would all follow through.

These people are purely and simply out for themselves. Loyalty to one another? LOL!!

They believe that Donald will retreat if they make this threat, but I can't believe the others will abide by the pact if the situation arises.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
3. Dunno, I am starting to buy the theory that these guys are trying to protect the US
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:36 PM
Oct 2017

from Trump's worst impulses. I saw a quote on MSNBC crawl by someone who knows them that the idea is to save the country from chaos.

Ymmv

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