Robert Mueller's team met behind closed doors today w an unknown group of attorneys & chief judge of

[MelissaB]

ABC News: Robert Mueller's team met behind closed doors today w an unknown group of attorneys & chief judge of US District Court in DC

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[nocalflea]

1. Indict the mothers , already !

[LiberalLovinLug]

42. + 1000!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

2. ..........

[yodermon]

13. ok I literally LOL'd, stealing that

[greeny2323]

3. Any idea what this means?

Also, it is Friday and I think we're nearing scoop o'clock time.

[jberryhill]

5. Could mean a couple of things

My guess would be an argument over the scope of a subpoena of some kind.

[MelissaB]

6. An attorney says it typically means mock trial & arguments, but I don't know for sure.

Can another DUer confirm?

Link to tweet

[Tommy_Carcetti]

7. Not with a judge present.

I'm thinking it's a hearing over a subpoena.

[MelissaB]

17. Oh! Even more intersting then.

[Sanity Claws]

8. Not with the Chief Judge of the USDC for the District of Columbia

Sitting judges don't engage in mock trials.

[Alice11111]

38. No.

[Dustlawyer]

44. No, no mock trial.

Hard to say with little info but it appears their was a contested hearing on an issue. Most likely Defense attorneys fighting to protect the release of some information or prevent an interview with someone.

Mueller fighting pushback on the investigation on some front.

[Not Ruth]

51. They have had grand juries for months, grand JURIES!!!!!!, that implies mock trials with no defense

[onenote]

55. the chief judge of the district court isn't participating in a "mock' trial. Period.

Absolutely bizarre that anyone would think that.

[Achilleaze]

4. incarcerate republican TreasonWeasels

starting with Comrade Casino, republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.

For the sake of American democracy.

[L. Coyote]

9. Indictments and arrests are about to drop. Consider how long the grand juries have worked.

It is the calm before the storm, even Trump knows that much.

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[davsand]

14. I wondered about that, however, that would mean a leak.

Mueller has run a fairly tight ship so far. Would somebody suddenly break ranks if they were close to getting one of the campaign people or even trump himself? It could happen, I guess, but I do think it less likely than the "orange moran" just flapping his gums because he was feeling frisky in a room full of guys with guns and bombs.

I don't doubt he knows the hounds are closing in. I do think he's gonna be so flipped out about it he'll go belligerent rather making jokes or trying to talk big. I look for him to try and fire Mueller before he accepts it's all done.


Laura

[woodsprite]

16. I don't think he'd have a shit-eating grin on his face like he did last night

if the "storm" was blowing in from Mueller.

Maybe they're trying to get things set up to intervene before the moron goes off the deep end and installs a "bump stock" on the nuclear button.

[Leghorn21]

19. Like this grin, sprite? This is from last night, and just is - yeah, shit eatin. Oy!!!

(the praying Mattis and the lizard man, have mercy)

[Marthe48]

24. Looks like rictus to me

or a stress grin he can't wipe off his ugly face.

[hlthe2b]

29. rictus...LOLOL

YUP

[Grammy23]

25. That is the very definition of a mule eating briars grin.

God, how ugly can one man be? Mattis looks like he needs a tub of Calgon....take me away!

[onecent]

40. He looks horrible with that shit eatin' grin!!!!!

[rickford66]

41. No flag pin on Mattis !!

[Scarsdale]

49. He has always

been ugly looking in my estimation. He is 100% uglier in the last few months. REPULSIVE s-o-b. He THINKS he is some type of lady killer, but he attracts gold digging whores. No decent woman would touch the ugly, flat faced turd with a ten foot pole. Those clothes he wears are ill-fitting and not well made. I doubt that he is anywhere NEAR a millionaire. All hot air, like all things tRump. Putin really pulled a scam on this country by selecting this assh**le as president.

[Midnight Writer]

46. He followed up the "calm before the storm" with "We have the greatest military in the world".

No shit. I couldn't sleep last night. I stayed up til dawn watching news and net waiting for Trump to start the regular Republican war.

My biggest fear. Trump is going to start a bogus war to rally "patriots".

[Juliusseizure]

48. Can't see Mattis/Military following crazy orders

I have like little doubt Trump's given several. They know he's crazy and a con.

[SonofDonald]

56. I thinks it's due to dumpf becoming more unhinged

There has to be a breaking point for this nightmare, I think Mueller and others have realized that although the entire scope of the investigation may not be done they do have enough to start the ball rolling on someone.

And that it may be enough to head these traitors off at the pass or at least put a shot across their bow.

I remember reading that one of Muellers specialists went back to her job at the justice department as her work for Mueller was finished.

It's going to be a very interesting week.

[roamer65]

60. Dump is going to try to fire Mueller.

That is “the storm”. IMO.

[C_U_L8R]

10. I wonder what intriguing questions are being answered....

like 'can we indict a sitting President?'

[gratuitous]

15. That occurred to me

Mueller and his team might be asking the judge if a sitting president can be indicted or if the sole legal remedy for his wrongdoing is impeachment and removal. They might also be testing the waters, so to speak, to find out just how bold the judge might be in issuing a controversial ruling.

[marylandblue]

34. Those are not questions you can ask a judge privately

Mueller would have to officially indict Trump and argue his case in open court.

[bucolic_frolic]

59. Yes the uncertainty surrounds these issues

How will it play out? Who's in charge if a couple dozen lawmakers and admin officials are hauled off to jail? Perhaps even the top 2-3 guys.

Legally it's all clear. Politically not so much. FBI is not a political organization by nature. I know, Comey, 2016, on and on. Attempts to nuance non-indictments failed. They should just plow ahead and let the chips fall where they may. We have allies internationally, there are secure multinational organizations to monitor the world for awhile (UN, NATO, etc) while we get our house in order.

This must not fail if the U.S.A. is going to survive.

[davsand]

11. Looking to get a warrant?

They've already demonstrated that they aren't afraid of some fairly aggressive tactics like that early AM no-knock warrant at Manafort's house. They just talked to Steele. What did they confirm with him that would leave them seeking a warrant?



Laura

[Irish_Dem]

12. So the group of attorneys could be representing a "person of interest."

And they are in disagreement with Mueller on some issue.
Hence both groups appearing in front of a judge?
A chief judge.
??

[Kingofalldems]

18. I am sure they were just discussing tonight's playoff game.

[SergeStorms]

20. Somone needs to find out....

where Trump's Corp of "crack attorneys" were today. I say "crack attorneys", because at times it seems as if they're all smoking crack.

[Scarsdale]

50. I would advise tRump's

lawyers to CASH THEIR CHECKS before proceeding. The whole family are dead beats when it comes to paying their bills. tRump is using campaign donations to pay the lawyers for Jr.

[NightWatcher]

21. Muellers team questioned the logistics involved in arresting them a dozen at a time

He also asked the judges to clear a few weeks off their schedule because the arraignments would last for at least three weeks.


I kid, but I bet they’ll have to ask several different groups about the logistics of the shakeup involved in turning the entire administration on its head.

[kentuck]

22. Trump has been in court all of his adult life..

He doesn't worry that much about the criminal justice system in this country. He has figured out a way to beat it.

[groundloop]

23. "a way to beat it"- he buys his way out of trouble

The criminal justice system is only for little people, billionaires can afford to have their problems disappear.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. Trump appears to beat only CIVIL system... by prolonging litigation until other side is exhausted

I don't thing tRump has any experience with the CRIMINAL justice system. I think the two consent decrees (or equivalent) over Papa Trump's and Donald J. Trump's racist discrimination in his NY housing in the 80s were not criminal.

[Not Ruth]

52. Of course it was criminal,not just that,it was federal,civil discrimination, DOJ and FBI were all in

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. Ah. Well, he certainly didn't beat that racism charge. Got dinged, TWICE. . . . nt

[NBachers]

27. No-knock battering ram raid on the White House.

Brings a Hazmat Pest Control Squad.

[Grammy23]

28. It IS Friday. Time for a news dump. Or three or twelve.

Some Fridays it seems like all Rachel can do is rip up her script and go with the Breaking News. Wouldn’t it be cool if tonight was like that? Only the top story is trump being frog marched out of the White House?! A parade of fellow cell mates with him. I see it with Mueller kicking tRump’s ass and yelling at him to move faster.

[Leith]

36. Maybe the Police

will be sure to bang his head as they shove him into the back of the police car.

[Grammy23]

37. Well, it was tRump himself who suggested they not be so careful when loading

someone in the squad car. So it’s only fitting they try that out on him. I want one of the cops to really muss up his hair, too. Can’t wait to see him with a prisoner buzz cut.

[SonofDonald]

57. Well they do have to check for lice or fleas n/t

[procon]

30. Remember, Mueller has many shoes to drop, and I'm waiting for the last one. 👞 nt

[Jane Austin]

31. The always knowledgeable Renato Mariotti has a tweet thread on this.

Renato Mariotti‏Verified account @renato_mariotti 2h2 hours ago
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Replying to @renato_mariotti

1/ This is an unusual meeting, so the purpose of this meeting—whatever it was—was out of the ordinary.
11 replies 178 retweets 547 likes

Reply 11 Retweet 178 Like 547 Direct message

I don't know how to embed tweets, so look up Mariotti on Twitter.

[L. Coyote]

33. Here it is in full. I buried it under Eric Garland's thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029680590#post11

[Jane Austin]

47. Oh, wonderful!

Thanks.

[oldtime dfl_er]

32. Speculation

is that the WH is not cooperating on the documents requested. That's just speculation, mind you.

[mainstreetonce]

35. Does Trump know

that this is the storm that is coming?

[madokie]

39. I hope I'm wrong on this

but my gut tells me that nothing will come of all this. tRump will be vindicated and go on to win a second term.

[LiberalLovinLug]

43. I'm a bit worried about this as well

IF all they can do is find circumstantial evidence. Or if they do find collusion they may only be able to prove it against one or two loyal true believers from his campaign that will fall on their swords for Trump. ( With the assurances of a pardon)

Or Mueller may only find business crimes to stick.

Either way Fox News and others in the MSM will use that to "Dan Rather" his entire actions and behaviour up until now. It will be 24/7 poor poor Donnie surviving a blatant attempt at Being railroaded by the evil Democrats.

You just know that all the moderate Republicans are just aching for some kind of excuse to validate their vote last November.

[bathroommonkey76]

45. All of my bets are being hedged on

Schneiderman's probe in NY.

Democratic New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman won't comment on whether his office is working with special counsel Robert Mueller III, but said it would be "politically catastrophic" if President Donald Trump tried to interfere with the probe.

In an interview on Wednesday for AM to DM, BuzzFeed News’ new morning show, Schneiderman acknowledged that the president lacks the power to pardon people for state crime convictions — a fact that has fueled speculation about whether and to what extent his office might be working with Mueller's team. But Schneiderman said he hoped that wouldn't be a factor.

"I think it would politically catastrophic if [Trump] either tried to shut down the special counsel investigation or starts pardoning people that are indicted for serious federal crimes," Schneiderman told BuzzFeed News editor-in-chief Ben Smith.

In August, Politico reported that Mueller was working with Schneiderman on an investigation into former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Schneiderman said he could not comment on ongoing investigations, but that any communication among prosecutors would be "unremarkable."

"I have a lot of regard for the special counsel. He’s got a broad mandate and appears to be pursuing it, and the fact that there’s occasional communication with other prosecutors is really wholly unremarkable," he said.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/new-yorks-attorney-general-says-it-would-be-catastrophic-if?utm_term=.ovzGXl3yW#.rqLGrQzO1

[mahina]

58. At 32%?

[Not Ruth]

53. Same tweeter said those leaving would not respond to shouted questions, no one had a iPhone???

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Take some pics, use facial recognition to identify them, the media is slacking off

[louis-t]

61. I hope it means "should we arrest him now or wait

until he comes back to the White House?"