What has happened to The Nation magazine??

[RockaFowler]

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https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-is-more-fiction-than-fact/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Russiagate Is More Fiction Than Fact


Guess that Kremlin money is working out well for them. I don't get it!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

1. Stephen Cohen has long been a Russophile

For whatever reason, and now it's spilled over into apologia.

[TheDebbieDee]

6. Katrina Vandenheuval, Editor of The Nation

Is married to Cohen, you know...

[marylandblue]

2. Russia is subverting some of our most venerable institutions

On both the left and right. The point is to create dissention as a goal in itself. Dissention weakens the country. And it's working.

[Demsrule86]

3. Unreadable...gone full on Fascist.

[cyclonefence]

4. Their crossword puzzle is excellent n/t

[Ohiya]

5. That's one of the main reasons I used to subscribe.

Now I just do Harper's, The Atlantic used to have a good one too.

[mr_liberal]

7. They're far left.

They want the reason that Hillary lost to be that she wasn't left wing enough. If she would have won except for Russia... then that proves that running a "centrist Democrat" actually does work electorally.

The Nation are Bernie bros.

[Ken Burch]

10. The point of going after Russiagate is to oppose another country interfering in our elections...

...it should not be about trying to vindicate the idea that we must always nominate someone who keeps progressives at a distance...

Our unity platform wasn't "centrist"...it was fairly progressive-although it was far more "bear any burden, fight any foe" on foreign policy than it ever had to be, and our plank on the Israel/Palestine issue was essentially Netanyahu's positions when we should have made it clear that the Occupation and the settlements were illegitimate. If the fall campaign had been based mainly on talking about the platform rather than on saying "We have to stop Trump!" we'd have won. We had no reason to NOT campaign on the merits of our actual proposals OR to assume that the electorate was to our right and wouldn't accept a positive case for what we would do.

[Bradshaw3]

13. Not true

Cohen has been a Russian apologist (and maybe worse) long before Bernie ran for President. He has become a joke among Russian experts and his wife is following him dutifully. Last time they ran an article like this and got a lot of blowback because of its misinformed technology points she said she would have a review of it. So now they come up with this crap with its line of "alleged Russian meddling" at which point I stopped reading.

I subscribed to it a long time. She has taken the magazine down a path where both she and the mag have lost all credibility and it has nothing to do with Bernie bros.

[Ken Burch]

8. They don't want the Cold War back-and that is a legitimate concern.

They don't like Putin any more than anyone else, but they learned, as we all did in the 1949-1989 era, that no good ever comes from the U.S. and Russia defining Europe and the larger world as their sphere of conflict.

It's not possible to bring Putin down from outside...and the U.S. pretty much forfeited any right to try to shape Russia's future when we effectively sabotaged the attempt to create a peaceful democracy there in the Nineties.

All we really have the right to do is hope the Russian people can bring down Putin on their own-that is the only legitimate way to get him out of power.

[pnwmom]

12. The Cold War is already back, except it's the Tech War -- and it's in full swing.

It's foolhardy to pretend that they haven't been working to undermine the democracies in the US and in much of the western world.

The bias of this article cannot be denied. How can an article discussing collusion today NOT mention the June meeting between Junior, Manafort, and the Russians? And yet say this:

The same holds for the question of collusion. Officials acknowledged to Reuters in May that “they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far.” Well-placed critics of Trump—including former DNI chief James Clapper, former CIA director Michael Morrell, Representative Maxine Waters, and Senator Dianne Feinstein—concur to date.

[Bradshaw3]

14. So publishing pieces with false claims and "alleged Russian meddling" is showing concern?

No, it's showing they are following Cohen's apologia for Russian attempts to subvert democracy worldwide. I used to subscribe but it is apparent after the earlier article that included debunked claims about bandwidth in eastern Europe and this that included the line about "alleged Russian meddling" they are carrying water for the Putin regime, not trying to stop WWIII. And every person in the world who favors human rights, democracy and peace should be fighting against the fascistic oligarchs like Putin and trump, not planting false stories to minimize their threat.

[ck4829]

16. There's also the "Cold War is over, but we need a new Crusade" crowd on the right

Also a legitimate concern and very disturbing in their own right.

We can't just sit on the sidelines though, if there is a way to join forces with Russian liberals and opposition figures, we have to find it, I am doing some work myself. They aren't just our allies, they are our brothers and sisters. We need each other in this increasingly psychotic world of authoritarians with nuclear weapons and their followers who will execute their own children if it meant a compliment from one of these dictators.

We can't do half of the right wing's work for them though.

[Ken Burch]

9. They aren't getting "Kremlin money".

And it's not acceptable for anyone who claims to be progressive to ever use Cold War rhetoric.

Why ever evoke an era that was nothing but a terrifying embarrassment for all concerned?

[rockfordfile]

11. It's basically a right-wing rag now.

[Dawson Leery]

15. David Corn and Mother Jones have been on the Russia matter nonstop.

Perhaps you may change subscriptions?