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DA cleared cop involved..
Disturbing footage of another policeman killing an unarmed black man has surfaced after the Salt Lake City district attorney cleared the cop involved, ruling that the use of deadly force was justified.
The Wednesday ruling dropped the charges against the cop who shot 50-year-old Patrick Harmon around 1o:05 on the evening of August 13, after pulling him over on his bike for riding without a light and crossing several lanes of traffic, according to prosecutors.
As Harmon runs from the scene, Fox can be heard yelling Ill fucking shoot you!
Fox told investigators that he felt terrified by how close Mr. Harmon was to the officers, according to the Salt Lake Tribune. The district attorneys office released a photo of a knife, taken by investigators at the scene, that Harmon was allegedly wielding.
Protesters had demanded the footage be released, and as of Friday there was no organized response to the ruling.
They just murdered him flat-out, said Alisha Shaw, Harmons niece, according to the Guardian, which reported first on Harmons death. They are lying. There is no way they were threatened by anything. He was only trying to get away.
https://news.vice.com/story/another-cop-got-away-with-shooting-an-unarmed-black-man-in-the-back?utm_source=vicetwitterus
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)So, what we need is the UN to invade and take over.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Seriously, I can never be sure anymore without the sarcasm thingy.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)druidity33
(6,446 posts)without the RAWstory diversion...
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/06/the-fbi-has-identified-a-new-domestic-terrorist-threat-and-its-black-identity-extremists/
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)That's all I've got to say about it. HOLY SHIT!!!!HOLY SHIT!!!!HOLY SHIT!!!!
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)Is that f@cking real?
How can that be? ??
I fear for my life. You say that .... and the cop can do anything ....what? Lost!....
whathehell
(29,067 posts)iis their term, whatever the hell that means.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Because Creon and Antigone, 3000 years later, and The State STILL overreacts, always.
Heh gawd were dumb...
whathehell
(29,067 posts)that can't pass Constitutional muster.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Somebody should tell Jeff Sessions that, maybe?
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)I do not think that you understand what is meant, perhaps read foreignpolicy linked story
malaise
(269,050 posts)but it's just another 'son of a bitch' (Dotard's words)
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)hexola
(4,835 posts)If you're to frightened to do the job - quit.
I hope this blows up...
PdxSean
(574 posts)The official story is that he was executed for pulling a knife while running away from police. As to whether he actually pulled a knife is unknown because the DA chose not to let a grand jury review all body cam videos. The one, murky, jerky video is unclear.
My cynical view is that the cop either found a knife on him and used it as an excuse, or the truly cynical view is that the knife was planted on him. However, it is just as possible that the events played out as the cops say. Unfortunately, the DA didnt trust that a grand jury would support his personal findings.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)Than running TOWARD...
doc03
(35,345 posts)not have had anything. A friend of mine took law enforcement training back in the 70s. He
told me they were told to carry a drop weapon just in case they make a bad shooting. He was a
deputy Sheriff, he carried a switchblade knife in his sock. I don't figure they were actually told to
do it just that you know some cops do wink wink.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)That it is "common practice" for police (apparently nationwide based on your post) to carry a drop weapon?
doc03
(35,345 posts)Watch some of the police shows on TV or a movie, you see that depicted quite often. They didn't just come up with that
out of thin air. A more politically correct term for a drop weapon is a back-up weapon. There are bad cops just like there
are bad people in every field. I think good cops many times cover for the bad ones.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Its common knowledge that its common practice.
And I personally know of cases where it has occurred in the recent past.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)But a "common knowledge" claim isn't particularly convincing. Someone claims a friend said this happened 30-40 years ago, and now you said it happened in the "recent past" without anything more, and nobody points to concrete evidence, and certainly nothing that supports the idea that this is a common practice for police across the US.
And I'm not claiming it doesn't happen, just that we should ask for evidence to support the frequency.
On second edit, I'm not defending the murdering cops either. Those folks should be in prison.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)is no longer a friend,
doc03
(35,345 posts)I just read of a case on DU like a week ago where a cop wasn't charged in a shooting. His claim was the
victim had a gun but the cops DNA was found on the weapon and not the victim's.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)That's a total lie.
I was a deputy sheriff for 10 years and still am in a related field.
Not only is it not "common practice" but the truth is that in most every agency you are only allowed to carry on duty a firearm you have qualified that year with, on the roster by serial number, and being caught with any other gun on duty is a fireable offense.
A "switchblade in his sock"? Quit watching so damm many movies and confusing them with reality. Have you ever tried to carry something as heavy as a knife in a sock for an 8-12 hour shift? It's not just very uncomfortable but it will fall out as you walk to run- and on top of that within a week or two be so rusted from sweat it would probably not even open.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)I know its a tough question.
doc03
(35,345 posts)cold blooded murder to me.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)He bolted before they could finish. I guess its ok to shoot someone in the back while they are running away.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)WinstonSmith00
(228 posts)A knife is no threat to an officer if they are properly trained. Especially from a suspect who is trying to flee.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
A knife can inflict a deadly blow very fast- the general rule is that if an attacker is within 21 feet of you with a knife they stand a 50-50 chance of stabbing you before you can react fast enough to stop them.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... the doubt !!
They've lied SO MANY TIMES !!
There's NO REASON not to release the other 2 body cams !!!
Come on man
PdxSean
(574 posts)I try to be most cautious when Im feeling most cynical. With few exceptions, DAs only release body cams when it helps their clients, i.e. police officers.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)from the Salt Lake Tribune, a local newspaper.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/04/da-clears-salt-lake-city-police-officer-in-deadly-shooting/
The bodycam video was released on Wednesday. It's extremely disturbing.
https://www.cityweekly.net/BuzzBlog/archives/2017/10/04/patrick-harmon-body-cam-video-released
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They want to bring attention to these injustices.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)From my UN-professional eye this event does not add up, IMO the man didn't have time to pull and open a knife, Just six seconds that's all, for deadly force to be used. I agree 100%, I just watched a man get murdered, He was just trying to get away, They knew who he was and definitely could of caught him that night or another time.
aikoaiko
(34,171 posts)damn
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)There is no gray area in either case. Both are clearly murder.
DFW
(54,403 posts)The cop just snapped and wanted to kill. And he appears to have gotten away with it.
When will this stop? When murdering cops get arrested for being murdering cops, that's when.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Though how much is yet to be determined.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)DAs work with cops all the time. When one of their colleague cops shoots someone, DAs have HUGE conflicts of interest.
We must bring in outside cops to investigate alleged cop misconduct.
We must bring in outside DAs to prosecute alleged cop misconduct.
And when a civil judgement is paid against a cop, the cop must pay some of the judgement, instead of local taxpayers paying off cop misconduct.
Cops have no skin in the game - a civil judgement against them means only taxpayers pay. Good deal for crooked cops.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)We have to stop fucking around with this. It's a Nationwide problem and therefore requires a Federal remedy, not a local one.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Some cop killings are justified. Some are misconduct. We need better investigations.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)nocalflea
(1,387 posts)Brave-newworld
(10 posts)I am so sick of it now becoming legal to just shoot and kill black men just for existing. If this shit was happening to young white girls they would be tarred and feathered like you wouldnt believe! Stop attacking us, stop it! Goddamn it, actually send cops to jail for this! This is a human rights abuse!! Where's the UN???
Doreen
(11,686 posts)They just cuffed him and checked his pocket. What the fuck were they looking for? looked like a plant to me.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)"Body camera footage shows officers administering medical attention and saying, 'Patrick, stay with us.'".
htp://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/04/da-clears-salt-lake-city-police-officer-in-deadly-shooting/
WinstonSmith00
(228 posts)And cops are the biggest cowards of all.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/04/555305057/listen-amid-chaos-in-las-vegas-police-dispatches-reveal-an-evolving-response
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diego-Police-Officers-Las-Vegas-Shooting-Heroes-Victims-449442883.html
Alea
(706 posts)This is from a second body camera but in the op vid he turns at 35 seconds. Watch at 1/2 speed
I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS JUSTIFIED
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)If he turned back toward the officers with a knife in his hand- big if- then use of deadly force was justified.