I've really cutback on watching Rachel

[SHRED]

I'm watching more Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert.
I like The 11th Hour also.

I love Rachel but she has a way of getting my hopes up only to be dashed time after time.

[orangecrush]

1. Rachel is a superb investigator

She is a beacon in this darkness.

[SHRED]

2. I don't disagree

She's very good.

[orangecrush]

10. I know

And I can understand how you feel.

[RKP5637]

5. Amazing depth in what she covers. Her and her team are the best. She reminds me of

the investigative reporters we used to have in the US, that really dug into everything.

[orangecrush]

9. Yes, back in the day

When the First Amendment was being upheld.

[RKP5637]

11. Way back Jack Anderson was one that IMO was incredible at digging into stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Anderson_(columnist)

Yes, the authoritarian dotard loves to trash the First Amendment.

[orangecrush]

15. Thank you

That's the name I was looking for!

[RKP5637]

17. He was great!

[Ken Burch]

32. And I.F. Stone, in the late Forties, Fifties, and Sixties.

At times, he was the only member of the Washington press corps whose coverage questioned the Red Scare/Cold War/Vietnam narrative.

[RKP5637]

33. Many reporters/investigators are meek today compared to those way back. Much of this BS

today would not have been tolerated.

[Siwsan]

3. I sometimes wander off, while waiting for her to get to the meat of the subject

I know her build up has lots of interesting 'foreground' information, but damn.

[Purveyor]

12. Agree. I can't get beyond these long, supposedly cutzy opening monologues. Get to

the news and supporting guests.

[Hoyt]

19. I respect her, very glad she's on our side, and she helped me through bush. But I agree.

[Raine]

22. She's too long and drawn out

just get to the point already!

[Adrahil]

29. I dunno... I really appreciate context.

I think one problem in our country is few people really have good context. I appreciate she takes the time to give it, and I usually find it enlightening.

[Siwsan]

31. Understandable, but I want to hear more of the content

It's kind of like when I have a question about a bottle of wine I might be considering for purchase. The info I need doesn't include the history of grape cultivation.

Sometimes she just goes overboard on the context, for my taste. But we all process things in different ways.

[annabanana]

35. You say foreground, I say context. .

Some of her stories are complicated, and she's been following them awhile. I think she's trying to bring people up to speed. The prose has to be lean to cover so much ground.

[Siwsan]

37. I'm probably just too impatient

She is quite brilliant, that's for sure.

[doc03]

4. I haven't watched her show or Lawrence for a couple weeks. They always have these breaking

news stories that are going to be a game changer and they change nothing. I don't think they will
ever find direct evidence of collusion involving the Trumps. If they do it looks like it will be way too
late to help in the next election. Whatever happens I don't think there is anything that will get an
impeachment vote out of the Republicans. There is nothing Trump could do that will lose his crazy
base.

[RKP5637]

6. Sadly, I fear the same. n/t

[brush]

13. We don't know what Mueller has found out. His team has kept a lock on leaks, which shows...

extraordinary discipline.

Do ya really think that the trump team that we've seen display such glaring incompetence since the election — from the sharing of intelligence in the WH with the Russians to the bumbling PR response and everything in between — has been able to pull off the biggest election heist in history and leave no trace of collusion with the Russians?

I don't for a minute.

They aren't that smart.

[annabanana]

36. We may end up listening to recordings of phone calls. .

THAT would be .... ... interesting

[JI7]

7. Rachel lays out the facts which we need to be aware of. It's not her fault if people dont take the a

To deal with it. But she does her part as journalist to inform us.

[Miles Archer]

8. Symptom of the times...

...in the past, these would have been stories that led to a dramatic conclusion.

But now, with Trump operating under the cover of a "Republican majority," dashed hopes are as good as it's going to get until the majority changes.

Watch whatever keeps your spirits up and energizes you.

[kimbutgar]

14. i gave up my msnbc 3 hour addiction on November 9th 2016

Might flip over for few minutes and a little Joy on the weekends. My hubby watches it and will make me watch a clip or two. But I love vice news on hbo in the afternoons, Stephen Colbert, daily show,Samatha Bee and John Oliver.

Watching those msnbc are too damn depressing.

[SonofDonald]

16. Remember that her show is number one

As such I think that a lot of people who voted for dumpf may be watching now and she does such an amazing job because by watching her they now know how bad it is and the people involved in it and how it's all connected.

She's teaching....

[DoctorJoJo]

18. Well, You Could Watch...

... Faux and Fiends--they promise not to get your hopes up. Or just pull the covers over your head!

[Mike Nelson]

20. She does...

...tease too much. But I still watch her over any other the other bozos on at that time. One of the problems is that people don't accept Trump's crimes as wrong... he obstructed justice and admitted obstruction justice. May of his crimes are blatant. It's reported, but only impeachment matters and Republicans won't convict. If they did, we'd get Pence...

[samnsara]

21. i miss jon stewart

[LeftInTX]

23. I'm the same way

I also didn't watch the Watergate hearings.

I watched Watergate hearings the first day and realized that nothing was going to get resolved. I was in high school and didn't have much patience. I just wanted Nixon out. My younger sister actually watched as much as she could, but she was really into legal stuff and was obsessed with the legal process of the whole thing.

[Le Gaucher]

24. Same here... Her audience seems to be people curious about Trump and who are willing to

Listen.

I, in fact, have tuned out news in general.

As far as I am concerned.. Nothing matters to me until Donald Motherfucker Trump is given a hard kick and booted out of the Whitehouse. So basically none of build up matters to me.

The only thing I follow to any degree is the real progress on Mueller.. I have faint hopes that he recommends indictment and the congress takes it up.

[blueinredohio]

25. I love Rachel, no one can tell a story the way she does

[madamesilverspurs]

26. Tweety had to leave my viewing schedule.

He'd get me too wound up -- more from his rude and manic style than from any stories he was covering.

On the other hand, I appreciate how Maddow takes the time to draw lines of connection between seemingly disparate parts; it often gives me a better perspective. I usually learn something in the course of her broadcast, she's not big on merely repeating what everyone else has already covered. I'd dearly love to have a sitdown conversation with Rachel, Joy, and Lawrence; hell, I'd be content to be a fly on the wall!


.

[Gothmog]

27. Rachel is still must watch for me

[Hortensis]

28. Seems like often when I don't watch Rachel I read about what she's revealed

secondhand in the NYT or WaPo. And here too, of course.

[gordianot]

30. She seems to be gone a lot. So when she is on I do watch her.

[left-of-center2012]

34. Yeah, I got tired of her too

Something about the way she presents the info.
Like she's stringing me along, and I want her to get to the point.

And she will, right after this break ....

I had an uncle like that.
If he was telling me about a fish he caught yesterday,
he'd begin with what time he got up,
what he ate for breakfast,
which of his lucky fishing caps he wore,
...