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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumscan't do it any more...I've no words left.
It's all too insane, the way that the country is being systematically dismantled (to serve the welfare of all), recreated to boldly favor the ultrawealthy right wing nutcases.
I will read here, will do what I can for decency and progress, will post an occasional article I find that is worth reading.
But not as often - the last near-year is impacting my mood, my health, my optimism, my joy of life. Nothing makes sense....
There really is nothing to add, no magic words...I've got nothing.
See you around on my occasional pop ins. Hoping for Mueller. Hoping for enough to return to their senses before it is too late. Hoping...
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Enjoy life.
Botany
(70,516 posts)Go find a Black Gum and enjoy its fall color ASAP.
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Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)The little tree is about three feet tall and its leaves are spectacular right now. The catalpa has already lost almost all of it leaves, so the view is unimpeded. It's a thing I have never seen before, but my cousin, who is a botanist, says it's not unheard of though uncommon.
Those tomatoes are beautiful! Thanks for posting the pictures.
Botany
(70,516 posts)Sunny & moist spot. Cut off the catalpa branch on both sides of the Nyssa
and plant everything. I am assuming the roots of the gum are mixed in with
the catalpa.
BobsYourUncle
(120 posts)I was over 50 when I saw my first black gums. There were a perfectly-spaced pair over 50 feet tall, at the peak of their fall color. They looked like they were lit from inside and took my breath away. I always keep an eye out for them, but this year with frost so late, I fear they'll just lose their leaves before turning.
onit2day
(1,201 posts)You can only be Kow-Towed for so long before you realize you can only let it go and just deal with what is in front of you, your immediate environment. You do this by staying present and being prepared and refusing to let the weight of the world bring you down. When and if the time comes for you to do something...do it. Till then do what is in front of you no matter how small..
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)They are most certainly figuring out how to do their job and neutralize the 9 yr old mass murderer.
But how? I dont know, Kelly mentioned tackling him maybe.
Nice to know there are still 50 MILLION Americans who are absolutely tickled pink that the mass murderer is about to kill a bunch of poor people.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Maybe only 15 minutes ahead, but enough to stave off WWIII.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I think we may be assuming that even though Mueller will probably make extraordinary attempts to alert the right people, some will inform DT & he will act. He may not be smart, but he's paranoid enough to keep people around him to protect him, so HE does what he wants.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I took breaks during the last two Presidential elections and when Bush was re-elected. I sank into a deep depression with Bush.
But after a while I missed DUers too much to stay away.
niyad
(113,336 posts)take time, take care of yourself.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I honestly get it. Hope you feel better soon!
riversedge
(70,242 posts)to matter.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)in this country by his narcissistic behavior and insane rants that he soon will be tossed out of office and, hopefully, land in a six-by-eight jail cell... one can only hope!!
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)the economic business Repubs w his tax advantages to them...yuge.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)His way, he reversed course. His genius is to win back the support of people he had condemned, when he needs them, to prop him up.
Anyway, we need some optimism.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Pretty desperate. However, I'm lowering the bar.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Take a break, recharge and come back. They can't defeat us if we don't get discouraged. It's awful right now but I think the tide might be turning.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Made up to get the tax fuck done. No matter how ill the Repubs know he is, they want their tax fuck. Eliminating AMT, which is the only thing most of them pay, and the estate tax, which doesn't even kick in unless a couple has 11million, which the tax attorneys can't loophole out.
This big deal of raising intetest rates to help the poor. BS.
They have no stockpiles of money, more likely, high interest loans. That deal is for the banks and credit cards/banks.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)Rest up, take a deep breath. We will be here.
They are using mental tactics well it seems to be working for those 34% they have been brainwashed completely.
Standing firm here.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Siwsan
(26,268 posts)I gauge how bad my stress/anxiety is by how much, or little, I eat. I know it's more common to stress eat, but I am, apparently, not very common.
Every day I am now forcing myself to eat one mid-day meal. Not because I'm the least bit hungry, but I've been down this route, before and I know it leads to nothing positive.
On the bright side, I seem to have overcome my caffeine deficit headache issue.
Don't even get me started on the return of my insomnia issue.
Nay
(12,051 posts)If I was still working, I have no idea how I'd get any work done. I have upped my exercise and that has helped some -- physically exhausting myself.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I'll try more physical exhaustion. Good idea.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)over the past few months.
I should be in bed now. But can't shut down.
malaise
(269,049 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)I stopped watching the "news" on the tv, check DU to get real news and then hang out in the Lounge. Hang in there.
Peace
handmade34
(22,756 posts)it is the sense of helplessness that gets to me... I write to my Rep and Senators (Welch, Leahy and Sanders) and they just all respond with... "yah but..." I have marched, I have protested, I have made phone calls... I feel helpless
demmiblue
(36,864 posts)I need to take this wisdom to heart.
panader0
(25,816 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Our country is already gone. That was swift. Am trying to figure out my own balance. My senses tell me to enjoy what we have now - every moment - for, who knows...?
I want to stay engaged with politics - it's in my blood- but also mindful of the moment, which is good. I deleted my FB account a week ago today, and haven't missed it. So, proud of that. I find that I don't want to have any interaction with MAGATS, as I've heard them called. It's so discouraging; echoes of Nazi Germany.
This is all making me sick.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)than I could ever imagine. Just like his fast rise & chaotic campaign, & nothing stops him...his own Harvey Weinstein scandal, he bragged about on videotape.
It was a glitch, but they had the cheat machine ready to fire when needed.
BigmanPigman
(51,608 posts)I hated him so much and Americans weren't as fed up with his BS at that point so for my own mental and emotional health I left and took a sabbatical for a year. It was so nice to go to Amsterdam and Nice where the people were kind and welcomed me with open arms. I remember that The Daily Show was on once a week in France and I used to make a point of watching it to catch up with the news via Jon Stewart's humor.
I can't do that now since I am sick and broke due to my medical bills. The atmosphere in this country is so toxic and I do not know how we are going to survive long enough to see how Mueller's investigation turns out and how the GOP will react.
Enjoy your rest...smart move!
BumRushDaShow
(129,084 posts)That's why I've been forcing myself to delve into my hobbies a bit more so I can get a break.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)At what point is someone - ANYONE - going to be able to DO something about Trump and what he is doing to this country? The people he is killing???? When will anything be done?
Yes, I understand that Watergate took time, etc., etc., etc. But Nixon wasn't batshit crazy either. Trump is.
Initech
(100,080 posts)A whole lot of the GOP are going to go with him. The Kochs, the Mercers, Hannity, Limbaugh, Moore, O'Reilly, McConnell, Jones, Ryan, Gorsuch, Pence, I could go on and on. It seems the more the pieces of this puzzle are leaked, the more it seems that they're all guilty. It was a massive, carefully orchestrated, systematic takedown of Hillary Clinton. The whole GOP was in on it - and actively cheerleaded it - top to bottom. And the few people who probably weren't in on it, like Corker, are going to be a bit more difficult to sort out. And it doesn't take Mueller to figure that out. But I am all for him taking all the time he needs. I feel like it's going to be like that court room scene from the Dark Knight - you charge one with a crime, you can charge them all.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Please! Please!! Please!!!
I like your scenario better!!!
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Probably women. The big ones will buy their way out, mucho millions for lawyers and other semi legal favors with the right people, though Kushner may follow in his father's footsteps, and do a couple of years. Flynn is a given. Then again, DT will pardon most of them!
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)I think Flynn and Manafort are possible sacrificial lambs. They could both live out their days comfortably in Russia if they choose, too.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I assume their passports are being held at the moment.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Look who's in charge? What was normal and rational in the past is no longer something to be counted upon.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)questionseverything
(9,656 posts)hopefully the day after we retake the house,, ,because ryan can not be third in line when shit hits the fan
Bettie
(16,110 posts)there were still Republicans who could at least act like human beings.
This new breed? No humanity, no care for anything but the almighty dollar and their own power.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)At some point, even his nutjob racist pig asshole shithead garbage eating feces-flinging base will be harmed so much by the Reputins that they will have to vote in the interest of personal survival.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)They blame it on the socialist Dems & the black guy who was in the WH.
Initech
(100,080 posts)I know I need a few more of these.
ananda
(28,866 posts)This also goes beyond words.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)I am trying to unplug from the info overload but am having trouble doing so. I never imagined anything like this whole Nazi/Trump mess would happen here.
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)I feel like it's too dangerous to tune out, but too bloody awful to follow the nightmare.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)woodsprite
(11,916 posts)Since it's fall, I'm doing needle felted pumpkins.
There's something satisfying about repeatedly poking a bunch of orange fluff trying to make it into something pleasing
erinlough
(2,176 posts)I know this sounds odd, but the bindings have really helped me deal. It is not a curse it is asking the universe to bind his actions and the actions of his advisors. It is about asking for protections for all of our world, and people around the world join in. The Facebook page I follow is Bind Trump official. What it does for me is gives me hope. I invited my two sisters to join in and they both felt relief from the endless hopelessness for weeks after. Check it out.
mnhtnbb
(31,392 posts)It kills me that I suspect we're renting a house from a Trump supporting Republican.
I've found I don't want to have anything to do with people who either actively supported Trump or still voted for
him because they are Republicans and support whoever the party nominates.
The guy is dangerous. He and his crony capitalists are destroying our government. Trump himself won't
care if millions of people are killed when he starts lobbing nukes at another country, just because he can, to show
off what a big man he is.
And the judiciary? OMG. The courts will be packed for a generation or more with these right wing nutjobs.
I personally think the country is lost for the rest of my lifetime and probably longer. The only thing left is to hope...
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)Watch what happens.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)but look where we are at today. The GOP are cockroaches that will survive the end of days.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)We could be in WW3 with the Saudis as our allies and Europe with China.
calimary
(81,304 posts)Art or craft therapy can be helpful. If you have a dog, taking it for a walk will help a little. Enjoy the beauty of nature while we still have it, before trump and pruitt can destroy it all.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)The countdown clock still has too much time on it before he leaves office for that to be a comfort.
I'm worried about what he'll do next every single day.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)I am approaching the point where all I have left is curse words. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to walk away. I'm too obstinate for that. I'm not letting those fuckers win.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)and it's affecting me as well. I shut down often and go outside whenever I can.
hugs.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)he pissed me off and embarrasses all of us with his daily crap. Thanks.
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)Don't let them win.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)gilligan
(194 posts)argyl
(3,064 posts)Not quite ten months in office, and this guy is even worse than I ever imagined, and I imagined he would be worse than Bush II.
But I think this guys going down. Ive got to think it.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Dotard is around. This is not the Repub Party of 10 years ago, and it was bad then.
donotpissoffacow
(91 posts)...to outrage fatigue. Or is that redundant? History told us this would happen, I just didn't expect it to be so soon or so swift. I've decided, like you, to pull my head in but I do want to live to be 100 years old. That's just about the last act in this play of which we are watching opening scenes. If I make it, my last days will be spent enjoying endless glasses of sparkling schadenfreude with a slices of lime and waving at drowning fascists with not a flicker of pity as they float by.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)trying to stay positive in an America with evil people tearing it apart is a struggle. I keep wondering where are the sane people in DC, and the crazy shit just keeps on coming day and day out! I miss good men like Obama, with such respect for all Americans.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)blm
(113,064 posts).
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Procedures Act violations, on & on, all point to a long future of an extreme RW government. However, sometimes it is helpful to share our outrage. Sometimes when he does something & I am horrified, I think am I really hearing this right? As some have said, it is outrage fatigue. Then, I read here &, yep, we all understood the real meaning of the things he said that he is doing...even though to many, it means nothing. The NYT &WaPo Comments are good feedback loops too, but they are not really discussions.
My partner ran out of the bedroom this morning. He brought me coffee, and said, well, what's happening, as he sees me reading my digital newspapers. I started telling him & he couldn't stand it. So, instead of venting, discussing, or figuring out what the hell is going on, with ordinary people, it is better to do it with similar minds.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)I'm really not looking forward to being around any of them this holiday season. They had better keep their mouths shut or I will lose it.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)collectively, last year. We were almost exactly half and half. This year, we aren't invited, as tensions have boiled over. One in- law is married to a Palestinian, former Marine, film AD, who everyone loves. They have two beautiful children, and they are being raised Muslim. She lost it with the others after Charlottesville. How can you support someone who would stand idle while someone wants to run over my children, she asked to the family on FB?
SylviaD
(721 posts)That's why I stopped posting here...I rarely even lurk anymore.
I feel as if a great burden has been laid on me. Since election night.
I can't stop thinking, over and over, WHY has he not been impeached yet?
It's surreal.
I need a break too.
peacebuzzard
(5,174 posts)And read what interests me. I have resorted to relentlessly pursuing outside activities: Yard, dog and cats, power walking, swimming, work, all in the hopes of completely exhausting myself so I can sleep through the night. I still suffer insomnia to a great degree.
I totally get where you are. It is total madness, I am often in a dour mood myself.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Think about that. They know what's coming for them and they know they are damned. We can smell it. They're afraid. Very afraid of what is going to happen to them. Corker is all of them.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)I've been taking a few days a week off myself. I just can't face Trump and his trash everyday, anymore. Don't leave completely. I did that for a few years after the Hillary/Obama wars and I wish I hadn't. I DO avoid all the Hillary/Bernie wars, and refuse to let myself get entangled in those imbroglios.
Trump sucks. He's going to continue to suck for awhile. Sooner or later he will get his though. Then we can rejoice when the next Democratically controlled government repeals every stinking thing Trump ever did, and make this country TRULY great again!
Don't be a total stranger. Peace.
Fed-Up Fed
(19 posts)I get it. But this has been my fear from the very beginning. That those of us so staunchly opposed become weary from the fight. And the rest of America falls into apathy because it just takes too much energy to try to keep up with every new outrage. *sigh*
barbtries
(28,798 posts)i find i can't turn away.
#Resist
Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)Will miss your contributions, but fully understand. I too have found it hard to post. Usually just echoing what others have already said.
KPN
(15,646 posts)and then I realize/remember, that's exactly what they (the would be dictator and GOP) want me to do. They want me to tune out, switch off and essentially ignore them as they plunder.
Hang in there man! Take a break when you need it. But hang in there -- we need you.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)They're not the one-percenters, but they ARE the pawns of the one-percenters.
The ultra-wealthy in this country have a lot of economic power but very little voting power. There's too few of them to get a majority in any state or disctrict. So they manipulate other people to vote the way that benefits the one-percenters by fooling them. Whoever is dumb enough to be fooled, those people become the rightwing base and vote however they're told to vote.
We aren't the ones who've been fooled, so it's easy for us to see what's happening. We can't give up on this. Never stop trying to convince your friends, neighbors and family members that they are wrong and they're being fooled. Some RW people are seeing the light but first they have to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and Faux News, and hopefully they'll listen to US instead.
Even after Trump has been impeached and kicked out, we STILL have to fight this fight. The one-percenters will still be here even after Trump is gone.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)mn9driver
(4,426 posts)They overwhelmed the population with so much nonstop bullshit that people gave up and withdrew.
We need to stay vocal. Don't give up.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)It's seriously insane out there.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)I blame Mitch McConnell.