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Universal Language of the Universe?? (Original Post) Angry Dragon Oct 2017 OP
Greed jmowreader Oct 2017 #1
No, that's the physicists, looking for additional funding based upon their latest kooky theories. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #5
Kooky theories? Care to give examples? DetlefK Oct 2017 #6
Hey I can't understand much of modern physics either. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #10
Well gee, let's see... how bout the one that says there IS no single "Universe"... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #36
Sarcasm? -nt Bradical79 Oct 2017 #34
Binary. n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2017 #2
I do not understand what you wrote Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #7
01000010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00001101 00001010 nt Codeine Oct 2017 #11
If you have a question, just ascii. DetlefK Oct 2017 #22
There are 10 types of people in thw world. Thor_MN Oct 2017 #25
"Binary--it's as easy as 1-10-11!" lastlib Oct 2017 #18
Math. It's written into everything at every scale. Kentonio Oct 2017 #3
Universes can't talk... they do make a lot of noise though, if you know how to listen for it. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #4
I never mentioned universes talking Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #8
Sorry, since you used the word "language," I inferred communication ("talking" in a general sense). InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #33
thank you .........all thoughts are appreciated Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #37
Thank you... not everyone thinks the way you do. So many here take differing views InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #43
we would actually have to find other communicating entities to figure that out. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #9
Music nuxvomica Oct 2017 #12
English if rethugs get their way Takket Oct 2017 #13
It's apparent that many here don't watch tv or movies. Kaleva Oct 2017 #42
All + other? :) Hortensis Oct 2017 #14
Math -- see rogerashton Oct 2017 #15
Vogon poetry? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2017 #16
Awesome. It can be dangerous. I understand some people have died tymorial Oct 2017 #19
In those cases a Babel fish could be deadly. longship Oct 2017 #20
Indeed. Make sure you drink lots of beer tymorial Oct 2017 #21
Don't forget peanuts and a towel. DetlefK Oct 2017 #23
Emojis Orrex Oct 2017 #17
Calculus zipplewrath Oct 2017 #24
Waves C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #26
None. Loki Liesmith Oct 2017 #27
Graphics. People speak first with pictures. nt Blue_true Oct 2017 #28
Pig Latin. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #29
Dark energy bronxiteforever Oct 2017 #30
Math. Music is math kydo Oct 2017 #31
No one understands the Trump Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #40
Kind of makes you wonder how that chat orange dotard had with the President of the US VI went kydo Oct 2017 #44
Math & Music have a relationship. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #32
Math/physics Bradical79 Oct 2017 #35
English Kaleva Oct 2017 #38
Math LittleBlue Oct 2017 #39
Math seems to be winning Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #41
It most definitely is math... Locut0s Oct 2017 #45
Way above my pay scale Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #46

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. Kooky theories? Care to give examples?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:25 AM
Oct 2017

Kooky theories like the LHC who discovered the Higgs-Boson?
Kooky theories like the LIGO and VIRGO telescopes who can detect gravitational waves?
Kooky theories like the ITER experiment to do research how to build fusion-reactors?
Kooky theories like functionalized nanoparticles that kill cancer-cells?
Kooky theories like functionalized nanostructures, which are already yielding materials with brand-new properties and will expand the fields of engineering and electronics in the decades to come?



Please. Oh please, oh please, oh please give some examples.

Voltaire2

(13,154 posts)
10. Hey I can't understand much of modern physics either.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:09 AM
Oct 2017

The anti-intellectualism of the radical right has seeped into all discourse.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
36. Well gee, let's see... how bout the one that says there IS no single "Universe"...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:36 PM
Oct 2017

but rather, MULTIVERSES, which are mysterious "bubbles" floating in 11-dimensional space, based on Michio Kaku's silly "String Theory"... these vibrational "strings" must be the "music" you're referring to that Kooky Kaku also often mentions.

And, of course, conveniently, we cannot prove any of this... well, unless, we do what?... that's right, give these kooks MORE funding for their whacky ideas. A bigger collider... yes, that'll do the trick!! Maybe we can travel between the "parallel planes," "bubbles," whatever you call them, and conquer the very fabric of space and time. Kooky Kaku and his ilk say that's ALL possible with just the right amount of funding!!

Oh, and lets not forget Kooky Kaku's crazy theory that dinosaurs are running through whatever room/space you happen to be in right now reading this... again in a "parallel plane." No doubt, paleontologists all over the world can't wait to grab that cash with both hands and make a stash!! (btw, shout out to all the "paralell" Pink Floyd bands out there in the Universes for writing that kick-ass song "Money," which is highly appropriate for purposes of this discussion.)

And, how bout Kooky Kaku's promoting the multi-world interpretation of quantum phenomenon that there are essentially an infinite number of "realities," where EVERY possible outcome, and combination of outcomes, exist simultaneously. Yes, these nutty ideas deserve a TON of money, no doubt!!!

Same with Princeton's hot-fusion program, which has wasted HUNDREDS of billions of dollars - and that's just ONE program - and has yet to generate a single net watt of power in over 30 years? Yeah, why not?!... let's waste a LOT more tax dollars on that one!! (They tell us the first watt of power is only ANOTHER 30 years away as of today!! How many hundreds of billions of dollars do you think they're proposing to spend to commercialize this loony idea?! Take a guess!!)

Quantum teleportation anyone?! Sure says Kooky Kalu... anything's possible based upon these crazy theories. Quantum computing?! Sure, no problem... just around the corner, if ONLY we fund this quackery to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Who gives a fuck that there are hungry mouths to feed?!

Shall I go on? Actually, I already have in a parallel, alternative Universe... but, then in another, I never responded at all. In the words of my favorite guitar legend, Jimi Hendrix... if I don't see you no more in this world... I'll see you in the next one...and don't be late!! Don't be late!!

Now that was music, unlike the noise of the Universe!! Good thing Jimi was born in this parallel Universe and didn't die in childbirth like so many of the other worlds that occupy eleven-dimensional space... that's becauae "the math" of Kooky Kaku's Silly String Theory won't allow for more dimensions... although, if I'm not mistaken, other physicists have desperately added two more dimensions to account for newly discovered phenomenon that their previous whacky theories didn't predict.

Of course, I'm not saying all theories are this whacked and, therefore, not deserving of the funding required to come up with new scientific discoveries and technologies.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
33. Sorry, since you used the word "language," I inferred communication ("talking" in a general sense).
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:51 PM
Oct 2017

In any case, noise is NOT "music"... by that logic, anything that makes noise is a musician. I can tell you, with absolute certainty, that I am not a musician and neither is my sweet, lovable dog when he is gassy.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm really not... just not buying into your suggestion that the Universe somehow communicates with us through some "language," whether it be by music, math, whatever. Can it be DESCRIBED mathematically, of course!!

Anyway, I assume you were soliciting comments and those are mine.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
43. Thank you... not everyone thinks the way you do. So many here take differing views
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:09 PM
Oct 2017

as some kind of insult... never understood that.

nuxvomica

(12,440 posts)
12. Music
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:14 AM
Oct 2017

Music is rhythm, the stable interplay of opposing energy imbalances that makes the universe interesting, and sound which is heat which will still be around when everything else is gone. Math is just a human abstraction of reality. We will always see math in the universe just as we will always see human faces in car grills, houses with two front windows, grounded electrical sockets and the moon.

Kaleva

(36,341 posts)
42. It's apparent that many here don't watch tv or movies.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:08 PM
Oct 2017

When Vulcans and Klingons want to converse, they speak English.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. All + other? :)
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:26 AM
Oct 2017

What is language, btw, but a development of music combining to communicate both great depths and pragmatic details of meaning? Close Encounters was on that track. Music on most basic level to communicate meaning on most basic level.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
19. Awesome. It can be dangerous. I understand some people have died
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:32 AM
Oct 2017

Due to internal hemorrhage. This should only cause a minor headache.

...And hooptiously drangle me,

With crinkly bindlewurdles,mashurbitries.

Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,

See if I don't!

(I probably won't!)

kydo

(2,679 posts)
31. Math. Music is math
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 10:00 AM
Oct 2017

As a musician I would love to say its music. But that is just a half truth. Music is math. The sound you hear are waves. Like the tuning note, "A". A440 or A4 (also known as the Stuttgart pitch), has a frequency of 440 Hz, is the musical note of A above middle C and serves as a general tuning standard for musical pitch.

So there is the pitch. The the duration of the notes. The speed of the piece. Is it 130, 90, or really fast at 176. And of course the time signature which tells one how many beats per measure and the note that gets the beat. 4/4, 3/4, 9/6.

In a way math is the written part of the language and music is the audio.

So my answer is math.

So my question. I have been outside digging and so no news yet. But your question makes me wonder, did orange dotard claim to speak the universal language of the universe when he was talking to the President's of Guam, PR and VI? Or did he try to use that as an excuse for his sexual assaults tendencies?

kydo

(2,679 posts)
44. Kind of makes you wonder how that chat orange dotard had with the President of the US VI went
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 06:54 AM
Oct 2017

Considering that the US VI are US territories, thus making the President of US, also the President of VI. That must have been one interesting chat. I wonder, did he have in front of the mirror?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
35. Math/physics
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:01 PM
Oct 2017

Physics is the study of how the universe works, and mathematics is our best tool for approximating and describing those underlying rules.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
45. It most definitely is math...
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:41 AM
Oct 2017

Indeed if you know anything about quantum mechanics the degree to which the universe is described by math is almost unsettling. QED is the theory of quantum electro dynamics. It describes how electrons behave quantum mechanically. Among an electron's properties is something called its magnetic moment which is basically the force the electron feels when it moves in an external magnetic field. QED correctly predicts this for the electron to within about 10 parts in a billion.

What that means is that we have measured this value experimentally and come out with a number. The theory also tells us what the number shod be. And they match perfectly up to the billionth place.

There are other areas of particle physics with results not this good, but still amazing.

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