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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 02:53 PM Oct 2017

We're down to Mattis, I suppose - By Jennifer Rubin

Republicans and Democrats alike have been deluding themselves for some time about White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly. They were certain that Kelly was a “grown-up” who understood that the president the American people elected was hobbled — morally, intellectually, temperamentally — and it was Kelly’s job to steer the ship of state away from the rocks. He wouldn’t lie to the American people as President Trump did, these Kelly fans believed.

Recognition is now sinking in that Kelly is not so different than all the other politicians and officials who come in contact with Trump. To serve him requires suspension of integrity, and therefore those who serve become morally corrupted. (The sole exception to this seems to be Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who from day one simply refused to act as Trump’s political flack.) One can hear a palpable sense of sadness after last week’s events, a sense of disillusionment.

After Kelly came out to play defense for Trump over his handling of calls to Gold Star families, smeared Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.) and refused to apologize, launched a Trumpian soliloquy about the good old days (when women were “sacred,” but not in the workforce) and elevated the moral stature of service members over mere civilians, it was hard to argue he was anything more than a Trump enabler.

Susan Glasser of Politico appearing on “Face the Nation” observed, “We’re not surprised Donald Trump behaved this way because it’s very consistent with what we’ve seen from President Trump throughout not only his presidency but his campaign. … I think it’s more surprising what we saw in a way from General Kelly. We learned more. One of the things that’s been apparent over the last couple of months that this underscored is that it remains Donald Trump’s White House and not John Kelly’s White House, even if he has imposed more discipline and more of a process, number one.

She added, “We saw that General Kelly, this week, shares more of Donald Trump’s agenda than we realized. … I found General Kelly’s comment to be surprising and even puzzling that he would have brought up in the same commentary about this incident with the Gold Star families this notion that in the good old days women were sacred.” She noted, “A lot of people have talked about the irony of working for a president who has been accused of this kind of behavior.”

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We're down to Mattis, I suppose - By Jennifer Rubin (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author lunasun Oct 2017 #1
Great piece. dalton99a Oct 2017 #2
K&R... spanone Oct 2017 #3
Scary state of affairs if our hope for survival rests on "Mad Dog" robertpaulsen Oct 2017 #4
what happens when Mattis gets up to the podium NewJeffCT Oct 2017 #7
Right, I'd be surprised if Mattis is as stupid as Kelly is though ... uponit7771 Oct 2017 #8
Thats unfortunate lanlady Oct 2017 #5
I have assumed from the beginning Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #6
Drumpt's shit has splashed and contaminated the lot of them. I wouldn't be kairos12 Oct 2017 #9
It's simple: world wide wally Oct 2017 #10
Kelly and Mattis are friends and were friends long before getting to the WH. Solly Mack Oct 2017 #11

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lanlady

(7,134 posts)
5. Thats unfortunate
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 04:05 PM
Oct 2017

I know plenty of people who worked with or served under Mattis. The consensus is is he’s a raging egomaniac. Adult in the room? We are so screwed.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
6. I have assumed from the beginning
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:11 PM
Oct 2017

that anyone who would work for Trump in any capacity that involves contact with him, and even some who don't are slime. Every.One.Of.Them.

When this administration goes down, they all need to go down with it, and be tainted forever by it.

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
9. Drumpt's shit has splashed and contaminated the lot of them. I wouldn't be
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:37 PM
Oct 2017

in the same room with any of them without a HAZMAT suit. Evil is their aroma.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
11. Kelly and Mattis are friends and were friends long before getting to the WH.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:55 PM
Oct 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/11/26/retired-marine-generals-recommended-each-other-to-trump-as-pentagon-chief/?utm_term=.d53c7c16378a

When President-elect Donald Trump met last weekend with two retired Marine Corps generals, they each recommended that Trump consider naming the other as secretary of defense, according to a source familiar with the generals’ talks.


Mattis met with Trump on Nov. 19, and Kelly met with him the following day. The retired officers have long been colleagues and friends, with Mattis serving as a two-star general in charge of the 1st Marine Division during the 2003 invasion of Iraq and Kelly serving as his one-star assistant commander.

Mattis oversaw operations across the Middle East as chief of U.S. Central Command before retiring in 2013. Like Trump, he has criticized the Obama administration’s stance toward Iran and has called for a more skeptical view of Tehran’s intentions and influence in the Middle East.

Kelly led U.S. military operations across Central and South America for three years before retiring from active duty last year. As chief of Southern Command, he openly disagreed with the Obama administration’s plan to close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay.
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