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SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 03:52 PM Oct 2017

god, god, god, god, god, god, god ........................................

I am so sick of these fake Christian fascists fucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no situation that they don't bring god into.

The government is not suppose to be in the business of preaching.

Flame away.

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god, god, god, god, god, god, god ........................................ (Original Post) SamKnause Oct 2017 OP
Why would anyone here flame you on that one? Tobin S. Oct 2017 #1
Um, I don't get that comment either. This isn't a site that "flames" for people pointing out anneboleyn Oct 2017 #33
God told me that they're phonies C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #2
I utterly despise these people. Initech Oct 2017 #3
I have absolutely nothing to do with religion. It's just all politics, money and cruelty. RKP5637 Oct 2017 #4
Yup. How any thinking person can still be fooled by the b.s. is beyond me. lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #44
Does this go for all religions? cwydro Oct 2017 #50
For me, across the board. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #51
This Christian agrees with you wryter2000 Oct 2017 #5
+1 hamsterjill Oct 2017 #7
"fake Christians"... Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #36
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #10
Nice of you to speak up and remind people that millions of Hortensis Oct 2017 #14
K&R. Wisdom. n/t KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #47
Yup.... they have Hijacked this "faith"... Kleveland Oct 2017 #19
I go over and over in my mind about how we can fight them in the media wryter2000 Oct 2017 #22
Same here. I identify as Christian and couldn't agree more with the OP. Tanuki Oct 2017 #31
This Scotsman agrees too. trotsky Oct 2017 #53
They are con men - plain and simple packman Oct 2017 #6
I think religious con men are called charlatans world wide wally Oct 2017 #12
it makes me very happy yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #8
Me too. 👍🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #17
I love your chunky Buddha. I have a wood carved large chunky Buddha. I love it. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #21
its actually a Chinese style Buddha yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #42
Oh, so that's the difference. Someone told me Buddha is supposed to be thin... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #43
buddha is viewed differently yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #45
I'm right with you! lark Oct 2017 #9
Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #29
ANY religion Plucketeer Oct 2017 #11
in your opinion yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #46
You are correct Plucketeer Oct 2017 #48
Flame this post, no way. You are right on. I didn't serve in the Army for a theocracy. kairos12 Oct 2017 #13
They're not fake Christians. They are Christians. RedSpartan Oct 2017 #15
A majority (a disputable claim in itself) can still be in the WinkyDink Oct 2017 #26
I agree, and I'm agnostic -- pushing for the rich & worshipping $$ while destroying the poor is NOT anneboleyn Oct 2017 #35
They are dangerous and frightening NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #16
Yep, he uses them to his advantage. This is all very dangerous. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #30
I'm a Christian workinclasszero Oct 2017 #18
Do you want the king/prez running your church? keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #34
Of course not workinclasszero Oct 2017 #38
Judas got 30 pieces of silver, but just once, for selling Christ. Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker and thei keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #39
Sad but true workinclasszero Oct 2017 #49
No flames here. I loath and fear them. sarge43 Oct 2017 #20
Hed do a LOT more than throw up. roamer65 Oct 2017 #24
He'd start by throwing up, then get real :) sarge43 Oct 2017 #25
chris hitchesns pov 90-percent Oct 2017 #23
They really are Christian Fascists. They want to shove their phony beliefs on all of us. YOHABLO Oct 2017 #27
They use their religon Matthew28 Oct 2017 #28
what about 'false prophets' don't they understand? samnsara Oct 2017 #32
Some of our 'Christians' say they want America to be a Christian run country. keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #37
Whose god are you referring to? left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #40
The one Trump, Pence, Sarah Huckabee, the pastors, and the preachers, SamKnause Oct 2017 #41
They're real Christians. trotsky Oct 2017 #52
I am an Atheist. SamKnause Oct 2017 #54
Great! trotsky Oct 2017 #55
No one follows the bible 100%, do they ? SamKnause Oct 2017 #56
Right, exactly my point! trotsky Oct 2017 #57
Point taken. SamKnause Oct 2017 #58
Instead, conservative Christians see... trotsky Oct 2017 #59
I am sick of their blatant lies. SamKnause Oct 2017 #60
In his mind, he's a Christian. trotsky Oct 2017 #61
Then his mind is diseased. SamKnause Oct 2017 #62
And right-wing Christians might say the same thing about liberal Christians. trotsky Oct 2017 #63
He's a horrible human being no matter what he believes. SamKnause Oct 2017 #64

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
33. Um, I don't get that comment either. This isn't a site that "flames" for people pointing out
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:38 PM
Oct 2017

hypocrisy and the overuse and misuse of religion in politics.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
3. I utterly despise these people.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 03:58 PM
Oct 2017

They are absolutely horrible and serve no purpose other than hate. When mass shootings or tragedies happen, they tell the victims to go fuck themselves, because Jesus. They say LGBT people are God's abomination because Jesus. They say women who are victims of rape or harassment deserved it because, Jesus. Jesus would hate these people! I want no part of this pathetic excuse for religion, and you would have to kill me before I join.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
4. I have absolutely nothing to do with religion. It's just all politics, money and cruelty.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 04:01 PM
Oct 2017

And I'm so F'en fed up with these christians that wear their demented faith like an armband.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
7. +1
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 04:43 PM
Oct 2017

Another Christian in agreement. These fake Christians have hijacked the faith in my opinion. Where is the mercy, compassion and comfort?

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
36. "fake Christians"... Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:55 PM
Oct 2017

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness.

Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Evangelicals/religious right are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.

The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Nice of you to speak up and remind people that millions of
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:15 PM
Oct 2017

Christians are liberals, and those either Democrats or Democratic voters.

(More of this from more people, and maybe we can raise our standards of manners and acceptance of others around here.)

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
19. Yup.... they have Hijacked this "faith"...
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:31 PM
Oct 2017

Just like the Fundamentalist Muslims have, to further their own evil and narrow minded lack of compassion for humanity.

To me, these so called fundamentalist Christians are no different, and I expect acts of domestic terrorism... be it mental cruelty, or any other lack of respect for an individual's right to freedom and life in this country.

In the case of LGBT, I suspect their terrorism could in fact become violent.

I have little hope that anything can fix these sick minds.





wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
22. I go over and over in my mind about how we can fight them in the media
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:51 PM
Oct 2017

We don't have mega bucks, and we don't buy politicians. We're not particularly interesting, I'm afraid. If anyone comes up with anything, I'd be happy to listen.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
6. They are con men - plain and simple
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 04:16 PM
Oct 2017

and have figured out a way to make a living. Someone said religion was born when the first idiot met the first con man.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
43. Oh, so that's the difference. Someone told me Buddha is supposed to be thin...
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 09:12 PM
Oct 2017

but I've more often seen them chunky. So that explains...the Japanese Buddha is thin?

Thanks!

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
45. buddha is viewed differently
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 09:22 PM
Oct 2017

by different Asian cultures.. Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese are all different looking as is Indian.

Indian


Thai


Vietnamese

lark

(23,105 posts)
9. I'm right with you!
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 04:56 PM
Oct 2017

Non Christian fucks is what they truly are, they do nothing that Christ commanded and literally represent the money changers at the temple, the type of people Jesus railed against.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
48. You are correct
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 09:55 PM
Oct 2017

That is MY opinion - my humble, insignificant opinion, but I'm not alone in holding fast to it. I just don't see the worth of carefully making one's way thru this world in the hopes of being granted passage to a better one.

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
15. They're not fake Christians. They are Christians.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:15 PM
Oct 2017

This is what mainstream Christianity looks like now. The real "fake Christians" are the ones that actually try to follow the teachings of Christ.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
26. A majority (a disputable claim in itself) can still be in the
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:15 PM
Oct 2017

wrong.

The tenets remain unaltered.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
35. I agree, and I'm agnostic -- pushing for the rich & worshipping $$ while destroying the poor is NOT
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:52 PM
Oct 2017

something that Christ would approve of -- as demonstrated by the people he spoke about repeatedly and reminded his followers to treat with generosity.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
16. They are dangerous and frightening
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:26 PM
Oct 2017

They've been pushing for a theocracy for years; with Dump they've found their lackey. Dump is no more Christian than I am, but he needs the religious right and does their bidding.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. I'm a Christian
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:30 PM
Oct 2017

I believe in strict separation of church and state just like the people that set up this government in the first place.

Government by religion has been and always will be a complete fascist horror show. You either tow the line of the religion in charge or you are an agent of evil and a rebel to 'god' and must be wiped off the face of the earth.

It has been like that in every theocracy in history as far as I know and it will be like that here soon if the religious right/reich is not stopped.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
34. Do you want the king/prez running your church?
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:50 PM
Oct 2017

Do you want the king/prez running your church?

http://www.gocomics.com/wizardofid/2003/07/13

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http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/americas-true-history-of-religious-tolerance-61312684/?no-ist=;

Madison also made a point that any believer of any religion should understand: that the government sanction of a religion was, in essence, a threat to religion. "Who does not see," he wrote, "that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?" Madison was writing from his memory of Baptist ministers being arrested in his native Virginia.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
38. Of course not
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 07:01 PM
Oct 2017

I think sadly that the vast majority of so-called christian churches in America are nothing but republican political headquarters and scam centers to separate people from their money for "Jesus". IOW the local preacher building his fabulous mansion on the hill and private jet kinda "Jesus" of course.

I think they should be taxed to the max or get out of partisan politics.

This country was set up by a bunch of non-Christians and it was made clear that was their intention. All of this 'the USA is a christian nation' is a right wing republican lie.

Jesus said My kingdom is not of this world and I believe him over Pat Robinson and all the other fake Christians that back Trump.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
39. Judas got 30 pieces of silver, but just once, for selling Christ. Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker and thei
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 07:08 PM
Oct 2017

Judas got 30 pieces of silver, but just once, for selling Christ.

Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker and their ilk get millions of dollars repeatedly for selling Christ.

Judas was a fool for doing a one-time sale.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
20. No flames here. I loath and fear them.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 05:39 PM
Oct 2017

They're potential tyrants using their 'religion' as a club.

Woody Allen, "If Jesus came back and saw what was being done in his name, he'd throw up."

/on edit/The novel Dune: When religion and government ride in the same cart, the whirlwind follows.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
24. Hed do a LOT more than throw up.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:12 PM
Oct 2017

He’d make throwing the money changers off the temple steps look like a Sunday walk in the park.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
23. chris hitchesns pov
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:09 PM
Oct 2017
https://www.facebook.com/SkepticusOfficial/videos/703754233160502/?hc_ref=ARSu6KaCA99sPedXO1qEiMvU11GHL994FRFoVTTrIonjAundkimoI4bjkyFIZwtnTbA


why on earth any american christian would want a religious theocracy is beyond my ken.

organized religion main source of tax free income is selling fucking afterlife insurance and christians i know are giddy about the Apocalypse happening in their lifetime. well, they elected the right guy to bring the end of the world in a few more months. 20 centuries and still no armageddon? sounds ike the mother of all "great disappointments" to me!

90% jimmy

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
37. Some of our 'Christians' say they want America to be a Christian run country.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 06:59 PM
Oct 2017

Some of our 'Christians' say they want America to be a Christian run country.

Which version of Christianity?

What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge?

Many Catholics/Protestants feel that the other is not a true Christian.

Christians in Ireland fought each other using terrorism.

We already have radical Christian terrorists in America.

A theocracy will not change that.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
41. The one Trump, Pence, Sarah Huckabee, the pastors, and the preachers,
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 07:59 PM
Oct 2017

who support this administration bring up in every other sentence, no matter what

topic is being discussed.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
52. They're real Christians.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

Calling them "fake" doesn't do a thing. They think you're fake too. Do you follow EVERYTHING in the bible, or do you reject some of it like they do?

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
54. I am an Atheist.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:39 PM
Oct 2017

I recognize hypocrisy when I see it in action.

That is why I referred to them as fake.

I don't refer to my 93 year old mother that way, because I don't see that kind of behavior coming from her.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
55. Great!
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:42 PM
Oct 2017

But they're still real Christians. There are quite a few things in the bible that conservative Christians ignore, or rationalize away. There are also quite a few things that liberal Christians ignore, or rationalize away. No one follows the bible 100%, do they?

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
56. No one follows the bible 100%, do they ?
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:52 PM
Oct 2017

I think that would be impossible.

It seems today many don't even try.

They just state as fact they are Christian, as if their actions carry no weight.

They have flipped the script on what being a Christian is.

They are hateful and arrogant in their blatant hypocrisy.





trotsky

(49,533 posts)
57. Right, exactly my point!
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:56 PM
Oct 2017

Exactly who "flipped the script" is a matter of perspective, is it not?

Right-wing Christians think liberal Christians are incredible hypocrites because they don't support the so-called "right to life". From their perspective, it's liberals who are "hateful and arrogant in their blatant hypocrisy."

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
58. Point taken.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:12 PM
Oct 2017

I don't see liberal Christians calling for gays to be killed, those with HIV to be quarantined,

blaming natural disasters on gays and abortions, trying to outlaw birth control, supporting Nazis,

denigrating the poor, etc.

Trump and his supporters seem to have started a new sect of Christians.

Lying Christians.

Even their political agendas are based on lies.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
59. Instead, conservative Christians see...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:18 PM
Oct 2017

liberal Christians calling for the world to accept sin, to allow sex outside marriage, to allow the "abomination" of homosexuality, allow the murder of unborn babies, to mandate government steal from people to give money to others when they think churches would do a better job of using donations as Jesus taught, etc. (Note, I don't believe any of this shit, I'm just describing their point of view.)

Trump and his supporters just have a different perspective on Christianity.

It really does no good for both "sides" to simply scream that the others are "fake Christians."

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
60. I am sick of their blatant lies.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:24 PM
Oct 2017

Calling them out is better then pulling my hair out.

Do you truly believe that Trump is a Christian ???

Any kind of Christian ???

Different perspective ???

I am not buying the con mans lies.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
61. In his mind, he's a Christian.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:31 PM
Oct 2017

That's really the only place ANYONE is truly a Christian, because there will always be someone else who thinks that person isn't one.

The other side of this is really dark, too. What you're saying is that bad people can never be Christians. They must be something else (non-believers, one assumes), because Christians are always good people. You don't believe that, do you?

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
62. Then his mind is diseased.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:40 PM
Oct 2017

I don't believe the lying pussy grabber believes he is a Christian.

He is an opportunist.

He always has been, he always will be an opportunist.

He is pretending to be religious because he has the support of right wing Christians.

He does what will benefit Donald Trump.

Aren't Christians suppose to be good people ???

If not, is their religion for bad people ???

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
63. And right-wing Christians might say the same thing about liberal Christians.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 03:22 PM
Oct 2017

Donny can be both an opportunist AND a Christian.

I have no idea if he is, but I also am in no position to say he's not. And neither are you, if you're honest. He might not be a Christian according to your chosen definition of the term, but there are just about as many definitions of the word Christian as there are Christians.

How about we just say he's a horrible human being no matter what he believes?

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