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janx

(24,128 posts)
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 08:56 PM Oct 2017

Does anyone remember this?

It is the patriots who matter, many of whom kept away from Mr. Trump in the past. They are needed now. They have heft, wisdom, experience and insight.

Donald Trump doesn’t know how to be president. He isn’t a reader of the presidency. He’s never held office. There’s little reason to believe he knows how to do this.

The next president needs you. This is our country. Help him.


Peggy Noonan, November 12, 2016. Wall Street Journal. It was pathetic.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-comes-after-the-uprising-1478824753?mod=e2fb
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Does anyone remember this? (Original Post) janx Oct 2017 OP
That's what happens when you drink and write editorials emulatorloo Oct 2017 #1
Nooner gets flashes of clarity. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #3
... janx Oct 2017 #4
She sobered with the breeze, janx Oct 2017 #5
Yeah, thanks for the memories PJMcK Oct 2017 #2
The structure of the government will last, I think. janx Oct 2017 #8
Thanks for the reply and noting my spelling error PJMcK Oct 2017 #9
Leave it that way, please! janx Oct 2017 #11
Nah, I couldn't PJMcK Oct 2017 #13
He isn't a reader of the presidency. janx Oct 2017 #6
She's talking a different tune these days. She's no longer in denial that this man is politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2017 #7
Peggy Noonan is still a Republican shill PJMcK Oct 2017 #10
Agreed. janx Oct 2017 #12
My point is that she's not shilling for Trump these days as she was in that previous column. politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2017 #14
Your writing was clear PJMcK Oct 2017 #15
I feel the same way. I don't hate her but janx Oct 2017 #16

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
1. That's what happens when you drink and write editorials
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 09:14 PM
Oct 2017

Remember when she only saw Romney signs in her swanky neighborhood and thought it meant Obama would lose in 2012?



For what it is worth she did write an brutal editorial not long ago slamming Trump. Probably sobered up

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
2. Yeah, thanks for the memories
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 09:16 PM
Oct 2017

In the past year, I've traveled to Europe three times and met with a large number of business people as well as people I met on my journeys. Nearly every one of them has been incredulous that Trump was elected and what it says about the voters in the U.S. When asked my opinion, I truly could not offer any reasons that we've come to this embarrassing and dangerous state.

Upon reflection, I could have said that the political pendulum's swings seem to be getting wider and wider. Consider the Right-Left electoral results in the last 40 years: Carter to Reagan/Bush to Clinton to W to Obama to Trump. It nearly gave me whiplash to type that trajectory! Regardless, our government was designed to function with compromise. Today's polarized and weaponized political parties can't allow compromise in their zero-sum positions.

Peggy Noonan's pathetic column is insignificant compared to what has happened to the United States. While Trump/Pence et al need to be removed from their offices, the underlying problems of our society won't be solved by a change of our representative government.

janx

(24,128 posts)
8. The structure of the government will last, I think.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 09:33 PM
Oct 2017

Trump represents some disgusting elements in U.S. culture now. I teach young people of various countries/cultures, and their reaction is understandable. I was teaching some of them when the results of the last presidential election came in.

You have misspelled Pence's name, but please let it stand.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
9. Thanks for the reply and noting my spelling error
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 09:36 PM
Oct 2017

It's very informative to hear what people from other countries and cultures have to say about the United States. I've always found their comments instructive.

Have a good week, janx.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
7. She's talking a different tune these days. She's no longer in denial that this man is
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 09:31 PM
Oct 2017

incapable of leading this nation. At least that's what I have interpreted from her comments as she is a regular contributer on Morning Joe. Not on a daily basis, but on a regular basis and she's no longer under the illusion that this man can be helped with a little help from the GOP.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
10. Peggy Noonan is still a Republican shill
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

Her presence on "Morning Joe" doesn't increase her credibility, as if that show has any credibility to grant.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
14. My point is that she's not shilling for Trump these days as she was in that previous column.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 09:44 PM
Oct 2017

She doesn't consider him to be a Conservative member of the GOP and is no longer under any delusions that he can lead the GOP party with the help of his Generals.

janx

(24,128 posts)
16. I feel the same way. I don't hate her but
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 10:09 PM
Oct 2017

I love to ridicule her because I see her motives. She is a simpleton.

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