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Do all of his appointments and orders then become invalid? Any Constitutional scholars that can weigh in on this very real possibility? We are facing an unpre[s]idented Constitutional crisis.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Everything he did as President remains in place, pending the actions of a future President.
bluevoter4life
(787 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)get put in power instead.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)If Trump resigns or is removed, Pence becomes President. No do-overs. No next-highest votes wins.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)In addition to the comments above, the time to review and examine the election results passed and the election was declared legitimate. Despite the millions of us who clearly saw and decried the election manipulation, those complaints were ignored. End of story.
Having said that, I don't see any reason why a firebrand opposition candidate couldn't run on a platform of prosecuting every overlooked Republican malfeasance and reversing 38 disastrous years of New Gilded Age policy. Like the Bush Administration, these clowns are on the hook for high crimes with no statute of limitations.
I would argue that such a thing has already quietly happened in U.S. history. In the wake of World War II, Harry Truman deliberately kept the books open on countless violations of the Logan Act, billions in corrupt defense contractor deeds, and even an attempted fascist overthrow of the U.S. government. He used that leverage to jack up top tier income taxes and set the stage for thirty years of Democratically-controlled Congresses.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And if played correctly, the pendulum can be swung pretty far left for a very long time.
jambo101
(797 posts)His replacement will be that brown nosed white rat Pence.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Mike Pence is Likely ALL UP IN the Collusion with Russia and Pence will be CHARGED too. Just wait. The POTUS will be Orrin Hatch.
unblock
(52,253 posts)Republicans will make sure there's an hour in between to make sure there's enough time to appoint and confirm a new veep, who will then become president, as Gerald ford did.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Why would the President Pro Tempore, fourth in line of succession, take office instead of Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House, which is third behind the VP?
I think Ryan's whole schtick for the past two years has been to put himself in position to inherit the White House. Do you foresee something that would prevent Ryan from succeeding to the Presidency?
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Would impact Ryan Too. It will be President Hatch!
sofa king
(10,857 posts)It looks to me as if Ryan has tried to stay as far away from all that as possible. I suppose that could be because he's red-handed, but another reason could be that he knew exactly what was going on, duly reported it, and sat back to let events unfold.
If Ryan can knock out Pence and Trump at the same time, that's it, the White House is his. He might even be able to sweet talk a President Pence into appointing him VP, before the other shoe drops.
But honestly, I've seen enough of this crap going back to Saint Ronnie to know that the Republicans at the top always, always, ALWAYS get away with it. Every damned one of them is a post-Watergate Richard Nixon who learned from his mistakes.
I'd like to think that the Trumpkins, being generally unaware of, well... everything, aren't sly enough to protect themselves as the Bush coup did, but that might not matter because the rest of the GOP might find it necessary to protect them in order to protect themselves.
My gut says that nobody important is going down for this. Fortunately, I still listen to my brain before I listen to the contents of my lower intestine.
bluestarone
(16,976 posts)Hatch resigns which i heard he might do
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Who is 4th in line of Succession? Oh, that would be Rex Tillerson.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)His voters are going to be UNHINGED when they realize Hilary and Obama will never be indicted.
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)It is all covered-
http://constitutionus.com
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)It's just standard line of succession at that point. No constitutional crises.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)Most likely a special election is called for with Hillary vs. Pence.
mythology
(9,527 posts)There is a clear constitutionally outlined line of succession that doesn't involve a special election.
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)There will be no Presidential "special election"
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)That's not how any of it works.