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Quemado

(1,262 posts)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:02 PM Oct 2017

Prediction: Mueller will get fired

per Douglas Christian on the Thom Hartmann show October 31, 2017.

I agree. Trump is all about the outrageous. Congressional Republicans have all but surrendered to Trumpism. No articles of impeachment after Mueller is fired.

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Prediction: Mueller will get fired (Original Post) Quemado Oct 2017 OP
i can't see him not trying. more a question of when, not if. unblock Oct 2017 #1
Is Hartmann still cashing RT checks? NightWatcher Oct 2017 #2
I believe he left there. moda253 Oct 2017 #11
he left RT at the end of September rurallib Oct 2017 #22
couldn't we just have more than 1 GOOD day here? jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 #3
lol you are aware that this is DU right? grantcart Oct 2017 #24
Not yet. They need to time it right or all hell breaks lose Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #4
How many times has that been predicted? PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #5
1000 Xs. Legal or not, I think it is bit late to fire Mueller and repercussions would be severe. Hoyt Oct 2017 #6
Mueller has planted legal and digital mines everywhere. lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #25
Sessions is reportedly recused NewJeffCT Oct 2017 #7
I predict that this will be predicted again Orrex Oct 2017 #12
#4 with a few little fish getting destroyed... Baconator Oct 2017 #13
As I have noted previously... Orrex Oct 2017 #16
Trump will be here for his whole term.... Baconator Oct 2017 #18
Nah bronxiteforever Oct 2017 #27
Only the Executive Branch may hire or terminate a Special Prosecutor Saboburns Oct 2017 #15
Congress can appoint a Special Prosecutor. bluepen Oct 2017 #23
Mueller, being a civil servant, would not be easy to fire. Kaleva Oct 2017 #8
I don't think Trump can help himself. Jim__ Oct 2017 #9
yep bluestarone Oct 2017 #14
In the end... Baconator Oct 2017 #19
Thom Hartmann needs to show us his taxes. How much money does he get R B Garr Oct 2017 #10
Am I supposed to know who Douglas Christian is? brooklynite Oct 2017 #17
Ahhhh...but we will wait for a Des Congress and Presidency and file charges in retrospect. coolsandy Oct 2017 #20
Mueller will stick through this ALL OF IT IT..... onecent Oct 2017 #21
Trump will only dig himself into a deeper hole C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #26
This and 'Fitzmas' seemed to be the trendy prophecies over the past week. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #28
It will come down to the courts marylandblue Oct 2017 #29
It's too late for that, now. PubliusEnigma Oct 2017 #30
As Joe Madison says Please Please fire Mueller Trump leon8822 Oct 2017 #31
RT Thom, huh? Stinky The Clown Oct 2017 #32

unblock

(52,253 posts)
1. i can't see him not trying. more a question of when, not if.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:08 PM
Oct 2017

then the question is, how many ag's and/or deputy ag's will he have to go through until he finds his bork.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. Is Hartmann still cashing RT checks?
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:09 PM
Oct 2017

Russia wants confusion and disarray in the US and will use all their tools to get it.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
4. Not yet. They need to time it right or all hell breaks lose
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:16 PM
Oct 2017

If they can distract a bit with the “Hillary/DNC are eviler” nonsense and things look from the outside like the Mueller Investigation is stalled, they will say they are pulling the plug to save taxpayers money (never mind the hypocrisy with the whitewater investigations, Benghazi investigations, etc.). Time to move on and MAGA.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
5. How many times has that been predicted?
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:18 PM
Oct 2017

I think that Trump can't directly fire him, but would have to get the Attorney General to do so. Of course Sessions would probably do so, unlike what happened in 1973 (the Saturday Night Massacre. Google it if you don't already know what that was.) But firing Mueller would cause every bit of an uproar as the SNM, which would mean a clear path to removing Trump from office or his resignation.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. Mueller has planted legal and digital mines everywhere.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:07 PM
Oct 2017

Turd has no idea how this will blow up in his face if he tries it.

Cancelled checks written to the pee-prostititutes.
All his secret accounts in Cyprus suddenly drained.
Tax returns published in full.
A flood of indictments flowing from every blue state.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. Sessions is reportedly recused
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:24 PM
Oct 2017

so, would not be able to fire Mueller, I believe.

I think it would fall to Rosenstein and then down the line if Rosenstein refused.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
12. I predict that this will be predicted again
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:31 PM
Oct 2017

There are basically four possible results:

1. Mueller resigns
2. Mueller is fired/transferred
3. Mueller dies
4. Mueller completes his investigation

Of those, #3 is probably most unlikely, with #1 close behind. Of the remaining options, and given Trump's utterly unhinged demeanor, #2 is a reasonable conclusion easily made by anyone with a functioning brainstem.

In short, I am not impressed by people "predicting" that Mueller will be fired. Doug Christian can go jump in a lake.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
13. #4 with a few little fish getting destroyed...
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:34 PM
Oct 2017

A couple of mid-tier types getting slaps on the hand...

Trump remains and gets by on legal technicalities...

... and a whole bunch of media news cycles that end up accomplishing nothing.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
16. As I have noted previously...
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:51 PM
Oct 2017

If Mueller can't get Trump, then I would prefer that the investigation never happened in the first place.

If Trump survives, then he'll be absolutely invulnerable for the remainder of his term, and he'll be crowing about his amazing victory until ten years after he's dead in the ground.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
15. Only the Executive Branch may hire or terminate a Special Prosecutor
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:49 PM
Oct 2017

Since 1978 neither the Legislative nor Judicial Branches have any power regarding Special Prosecutors. All power rests solely in the Executive Branch.

Since 1978 only Attorneys General, or Acting Attorneys General, have hired a or terminated Special Prosecutors.

Nobody really knows what would happen if a POTUS would fire one. Because there is no Legislation on Special Prosecutors. None. Not since 1999.

Its why whenever this situation is brought up the answer is always, "Well it would cause a Constitutional Crisis".

It would be a Constitutional Crisis because the Constitution can offer no answer to this problem.

Jim__

(14,077 posts)
9. I don't think Trump can help himself.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:28 PM
Oct 2017

He'll have to fire Mueller.

Trump colluded with the Russians. He knows it. Mueller knows it. Trump knows Mueller knows it. Trump knows that Mueller will eventually prove it.

The die is cast.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
19. In the end...
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 03:05 PM
Oct 2017

...I think there will be proof that it happened but they won't get past a specific legal standard.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
10. Thom Hartmann needs to show us his taxes. How much money does he get
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:30 PM
Oct 2017

from Russia? Put up or shut up.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
26. Trump will only dig himself into a deeper hole
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:15 PM
Oct 2017

Even if it means waiting for the next Democratic congress, justice will prevail.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. This and 'Fitzmas' seemed to be the trendy prophecies over the past week.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:22 PM
Oct 2017

This and 'Fitzmas' seemed to be the trendy prophecies over the past week or so.

Though the tea-leaves didn't work out quite as planned for the clairvoyants and palm readers of yesterday's 'nothingburger,' as that particular ground beef sandwich was filled with deliciously grilled red meat.

I'd hazard this unsupported guess will end the same... not with a bang, but with people hoping their failed predictions are lost in the interwebs.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
29. It will come down to the courts
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:23 PM
Oct 2017

Mueller can only be fired "for cause." A straight firing without a showing of cause, will result in immediate reinstatement. A made up cause will take a little longer, but same result. In either case, the investigation continues even without Mueller.

In the end, firing Mueller would trump firing Comey as the worst political blunder in political history.

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