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ffr

(22,670 posts)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:49 PM Oct 2017

After Mueller charges unsealed, senator has 'serious concerns' about Sam Clovis nomination


An influential Senate Democrat has "serious concerns" about Sam Clovis's nomination to be the Department of Agriculture's chief scientist after court filings reveal he may have encouraged a Trump campaign aide to coordinate directly with Russia.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow is the top Democrat on the Senate Agriculture Committee, before which Clovis – President Trump's national campaign co-chairman – is set to appear next week for his confirmation hearing.

"The emerging information about his role in the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russia raises serious concerns," the Michigan Democrat said in a statement to USA TODAY. - USA Today

The snowball effect.
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After Mueller charges unsealed, senator has 'serious concerns' about Sam Clovis nomination (Original Post) ffr Oct 2017 OP
You Go Debbie!!!!! ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #1
Love Sen Stabenow Wwcd Oct 2017 #2
With all due respect angrychair Oct 2017 #3
Not really any different MyOwnPeace Oct 2017 #5
Ben Carson, Wilbur the Cypriot Ross. Marcuse Oct 2017 #8
With this regime Golden Raisin Oct 2017 #9
You mean like the last republican administration? czarjak Oct 2017 #32
She opposed him since day one. herding cats Oct 2017 #17
Good to hear angrychair Oct 2017 #22
It's my pleasure. herding cats Oct 2017 #25
My thoughts too. nt dflprincess Oct 2017 #23
Please, see my reply to angrychair herding cats Oct 2017 #28
Yea, unfortunately its the way the article reads angrychair Oct 2017 #33
Yes, the article is misleading, which is par for the course for USA Today all too often. herding cats Oct 2017 #34
What you said! SharonClark Oct 2017 #30
Gee, ya think? RandomAccess Oct 2017 #4
Now they have something that is embarrassing to bring up at his confirmation hearing ffr Oct 2017 #7
Good luck, MuseRider Oct 2017 #6
After? Thats the kicker for me benld74 Oct 2017 #10
She opposed him from day one. herding cats Oct 2017 #16
And every single republican Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #11
If I were in congress, I'd propose postponement of his nomination on the grounds that he's part ffr Oct 2017 #13
I think any of us would. Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #21
Lawrence seems to think we're on the right track and that Sam Clovis's nomination will be withdrawn ffr Nov 2017 #36
He ain't no scientist! SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2017 #12
FOR THOSE WHO HAVENT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION: She's apposed him since his nomination!! herding cats Oct 2017 #14
Thank you Hekate Oct 2017 #18
My pleasure. herding cats Oct 2017 #20
No shit That's the only reason? coolsandy Oct 2017 #15
No, it's not. She's opposed him since the beginning. herding cats Oct 2017 #19
I saw her speak at The Women's Convention last week.. likesmountains 52 Oct 2017 #24
I want to see those hearings. Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #26
Great for Stabenow. Hit hard! Hit early! Ukapau Oct 2017 #27
He is completely unqualified for the position. Every Senator should have serious reservations. LonePirate Oct 2017 #29
OMFG not fooled Oct 2017 #31
Keep Clovis - hes wearing a wire too Cicada Oct 2017 #35
On the bright side, he'll be under oath without a lawyer during his confirmation hearing. briv1016 Nov 2017 #37

angrychair

(8,700 posts)
3. With all due respect
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:01 PM
Oct 2017

She didn’t have serious concerns before that!?!

That 45IQ nominated a person with no scientific credentials or education and no experience or education in agriculture and a major climate change denier, to the top scientist position of DoA?

No serious concerns until now??

Sorry, that just irks me.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
5. Not really any different
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:16 PM
Oct 2017

from his Cabinet nominations:

Betsy DeVos - Secretary of Education - knows NOTHING about education regulations, only how to promote privatization and profiteering in the "education business.:

Scott Pruitt - Head Administrator of EPA - sued the EPA as Attorney General in order to weaken the EPA's control of the environment.

REALLY???????

Let's see how many foxes we can place in charge of the hen house!

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
9. With this regime
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:36 PM
Oct 2017

it’s all about grift, graft or destruction. All the cabinet ministers were/are deliberately chosen for their opposition to, open disdain for and willingness to gut and bleed out their respective departments.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
17. She opposed him since day one.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

She's using this as leverage to block him. It's smart on her part.

“While Steve Censky and Ted McKinney stand out as experienced candidates to serve in USDA leadership roles, I have strong concerns that Sam Clovis is not qualified to be USDA Under Secretary of Research, Education, and Economics, which dually serves as the Department’s Chief Scientist. This nominee seems to lack the necessary agricultural science and research qualifications that are required by the Farm Bill. I also have many questions about his troubling views on climate change and providing public investment in crop insurance and education.

https://www.agriculture.senate.gov/newsroom/dem/press/release/ranking-member-stabenow-statement-on-recent-usda-nomination-announcements

angrychair

(8,700 posts)
33. Yea, unfortunately its the way the article reads
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:49 PM
Oct 2017

The article reads like she is newly opposed to him because of this new revelation but thank you for making it clear she opposed him from the beginning

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
34. Yes, the article is misleading, which is par for the course for USA Today all too often.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 11:11 PM
Oct 2017

If I'd not already known the facts I too could have easily been confused by the wording.

We can't all know everything. There's just not enough time in our lives to manage that feat.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
7. Now they have something that is embarrassing to bring up at his confirmation hearing
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:25 PM
Oct 2017

They all can bring it up, which means anything they bring up about Russian collusion becomes newsworthy.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
6. Good luck,
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:21 PM
Oct 2017

I hope she gets more of a hearing from my wonderful Senator Pat Roberts...there is nothing he could do to lose the vote except maybe die and I said MAYBE.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
16. She opposed him from day one.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

She's using this as leverage to block him. It's smart on her part.

“While Steve Censky and Ted McKinney stand out as experienced candidates to serve in USDA leadership roles, I have strong concerns that Sam Clovis is not qualified to be USDA Under Secretary of Research, Education, and Economics, which dually serves as the Department’s Chief Scientist. This nominee seems to lack the necessary agricultural science and research qualifications that are required by the Farm Bill. I also have many questions about his troubling views on climate change and providing public investment in crop insurance and education.

https://www.agriculture.senate.gov/newsroom/dem/press/release/ranking-member-stabenow-statement-on-recent-usda-nomination-announcements

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
11. And every single republican
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:09 PM
Oct 2017

will vote for him, including John McCain, Bob Corker and Jeff Flake.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
13. If I were in congress, I'd propose postponement of his nomination on the grounds that he's part
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:33 PM
Oct 2017

of an ongoing investigation. Much like tRump's refusal to release his tax returns while under audit.

Plus, I'd tailor ever question to bring up his involvement in working with a hostile foreign government as a U.S. citizen.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
36. Lawrence seems to think we're on the right track and that Sam Clovis's nomination will be withdrawn
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 12:43 AM
Nov 2017

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
14. FOR THOSE WHO HAVENT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION: She's apposed him since his nomination!!
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:37 PM
Oct 2017

She's wisely using this as leverage to assist in blocking him. Catch-up people!

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
20. My pleasure.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:41 PM
Oct 2017

She's doing the right thing here and using the leverage she's been given. The least we can do is have her back.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
19. No, it's not. She's opposed him since the beginning.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:40 PM
Oct 2017

She's using this as leverage to block him. It's smart on her part.

“While Steve Censky and Ted McKinney stand out as experienced candidates to serve in USDA leadership roles, I have strong concerns that Sam Clovis is not qualified to be USDA Under Secretary of Research, Education, and Economics, which dually serves as the Department’s Chief Scientist. This nominee seems to lack the necessary agricultural science and research qualifications that are required by the Farm Bill. I also have many questions about his troubling views on climate change and providing public investment in crop insurance and education.

https://www.agriculture.senate.gov/newsroom/dem/press/release/ranking-member-stabenow-statement-on-recent-usda-nomination-announcements

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
31. OMFG
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:29 PM
Oct 2017

So it was Sam the anti-science Sham who was the "campaign supervisor" referenced in the Papadopoulos indictment.

Wow. The connections between all these creeps will make it difficult for anyone who worked at the higher levels in dump's campaign to contend that they weren't involved in colluding with Russia.

I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, hope that this pile of dung withdraws his nomination. Of course, these people have no shame, which means that he needs to be stopped if this ridiculous nomination goes forward.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
35. Keep Clovis - hes wearing a wire too
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 11:24 PM
Oct 2017

Clovis is also a cooperating witness for Mueller. Better to have him in the Trump admin wearing his wire than to have a Trump loyalist

But of course Repubs won’t vote for him now that his cooperating witness status has been revealed.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
37. On the bright side, he'll be under oath without a lawyer during his confirmation hearing.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 12:57 AM
Nov 2017

Something no sane attorney would ever let their client do. Swing away.

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