Donna Brazile now says the primaries weren't rigged, and NO internal corruption at the DNC that

[still_one]

favored Clinton

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/

From what I have observed there was one person who was conspicuously absent from jumping on top of this and saying that "the election was rigged"

That was Bernie Sanders

Ironically, there were some prominent Democrats who were all too willing to accept the distortion.

Howard Dean only said he hoped the allegations were false, and they turned out to be just that.

[applegrove]

1. Okay. Good. Sorry I got caught up in it. Better that we make our mistakes now.

[still_one]

4. Who didn't get caught up in this? Everyone did. When a prominent Democrat makes accusations like

this, it would be naïve to think that no one would weigh in on this, one way or another

[wasupaloopa]

6. I don't know what you mean by being caught up in this but if it is what I think then I didn't get

caught up in this.

[still_one]

7. It absolutely was NOT meant in a negative connotation. I simply meant both those who believed in

Donna Brazile's excerpts from Politico, those who did not believe it, and those who just didn't know.

In other words, when a prominent Democrat came out and made serious accusations about the party, EVERYONE is going to get caught up in this.

I will edit my post above to make it clear what I meant. Thanks

[applegrove]

12. I appreciate your comment. You are kind.

[wasupaloopa]

5. It's funny how many people are ready to beat up on Hillary at the drop of a hat and when they

learn what her supporters already know it's "never mind."

[still_one]

10. It is understandable though. You have a prominent Democrat making some serious accusations, it is

naïve to think that people wouldn't weigh in on this one way or another.

Even Howard Dean commented that he hoped the accusations were not true, so he wasn't sure.

[wasupaloopa]

13. If you really knew Hillary you would never have taken the bait. The problem is that so

many on our side are ready to buy into anti Hillary memes and that is why we lost the election. You just add to the negative narrative when you do that. Repeated often enough the lie becomes the truth.

Hillary has such huge negatives but she deserves none of it. Just yesterday I read here that Hillary was once a republican as was Warren.

Her biography has been out there for eons. She was 16 and not even into politics and was a Goldwater girl because it was a popular thing to do. That must have been posted here a hundred times during the primary.

Use some critical thinking and you won't be caught up in so much bull shit.

No to me it is not understandable.

[still_one]

16. For decades Hillary has been unfairly maligned since she presented her healthcare plan in the 90's

so this really isn't surprising, and when you have Donna Brazile, who was a vocal supporter of Hillary come out like this, it isn't surpriseing that some would be misled.

As I mentioned previously, when Comey released the letter to the republicans in Congress 11 days before the election, the media reported that "the email investigation had been reopened". That was a LIE, but that LIE was blasted over the airwaves and print media for days, and there is no doubt significantly contributed to what happened in 2016

[wasupaloopa]

19. Hillary says the Comey letter stopped her momentum. But we pride ourselves here for being above

average in having incite into those things. I just can't discount all the anti Hillary things I read on here over the last two years.

And I blame all of them for giving us Trump. We should all have known better. Hillary's life was an open book.

[still_one]

21. Sure. however, the reality of life is different

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[wasupaloopa]

24. Life could go either way. The right spent decades bashing the Clintons. Yet many of us here

were not effected by it. What is it that we have that so many hadn't? I think it is because we don't want to just follow the herd.

We want to make up our own minds. We all had the same input and came up with different opinions. Some of us were right.

If there were more of us and less of them Trump would not be president.

Emmanuel Kant said it best I think in his answer to the question "what is enlightnment."

Kant answers the question in the first sentence of the essay: "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity." He argues that the immaturity is self-inflicted not from a lack of understanding, but from the lack of courage to use one's reason, intellect, and wisdom without the guidance of another. He exclaims that the motto of enlightenment is "Sapere aude"! – Dare to be wise!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answering_the_Question:_What_is_Enlightenment%3F

[StevieM]

23. I actually don't like the phrase "stopped her momentum." What Comey actually did was

completely turn the race on its head.

Had it not been for his intervention she would have won decisively. Had it not been for his bogus investigation, and especially his July press conference, she would have won in a landslide.

Putin had nothing on our own FBI. The completely dominated the election, from start to finish.

[still_one]

27. You are exactly right, and the poll numbers reflect that

[applegrove]

29. I am a Hillary supporter. I also have been a fan of Donna Brazille. I was wrong. Shoot me.

[Iliyah]

2. Dear D

[democratisphere]

3. Sorry. You're a book too late.

[Awsi Dooger]

8. And maybe one governors race

Two weeks prior, same as Comey.

Brilliant timing

[democratisphere]

9. If Gillespie wins, DB can count on a backlash.

[still_one]

11. Let's not go there. That election is going to be very close, and Gillespie's despicable ads and

fearmongering are a disgrace.

Hopefully, the people of Virginia will see through this.

[democratisphere]

14. Sure hope so.

[emulatorloo]

17. +1

[emulatorloo]

15. Nice. Needs to halt publication of her Bullshit Book then

Then crawl in a hole and never show her face again. Very empathetic to Donna yesterday. Not any more.

[Initech]

18. Donna, stop talking. I mean seriously, STFU!

[BigmanPigman]

20. I purposely chose to NOT listen or read anything about it.

The entire focus of the Dems Party should be to defeat the GOP! Period. This BS will happen again and again and if you put any thought or energy into it than you are promoting the GOP propaganda. STOP! Stay FOCUSED! Distractions, diversions, division is their goal. Do not aid the enemy.

[still_one]

22. Hopefully, this experience will put the focus where it should be

[BigmanPigman]

25. If it doesn't do your self and the party a favor and try to stay out

of the discourse and not encourage it if you can. My goal is to defeat the GOP and not the Dems.

[chillfactor]

26. Brazille is a little late...

she has done severe damage to the Democratic Party. I really despise her.