***BREAKING*** NBC- Mueller now has enough evidence to indict both Mike Flynn and his son.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Bring Charges in Flynn Investigation

BY JULIA AINSLEY, CAROL E. LEE AND KEN DILANIAN



WASHINGTON — Federal investigators have gathered enough evidence to bring charges in their investigation of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser and his son as part of the probe into Russia's intervention in the 2016 election, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation.

Michael T. Flynn, who was fired after just 24 days on the job, was one of the first Trump associates to come under scrutiny in the federal probe now led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign.

Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn following his indictment of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, three sources familiar with the investigation told NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/mueller-has-enough-evidence-bring-charges-flynn-investigation-n817666

[mucifer]

1. It's on NBC news !!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/mueller-has-enough-evidence-bring-charges-flynn-investigation-n817666

[Takket]

6. OH MY!!!!!!!!!!

"Mueller's team is also examining whether Flynn attempted to orchestrate the removal of a chief rival of Turkish President Recep Erdogan from the U.S. to Turkey in exchange for millions of dollars, two officials said. "

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

[AntiFascist]

72. Taking over the "deep state"...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/07/what-an-actual-deep-state-looks-like/?utm_term=.ba66958eb81a

Turkish experts will tell you that discussion of the "deep state" flourishes in a climate of conspiracy and political polarization. It encourages the public to doubt the pillars of civil society — from the judiciary to the press — and take shelter in the shadow of a populist leader. That's where the parallels to American politics in the age of Trump start to become all too real.

[riversedge]

37. "according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation." I will wait

until I see Mueller and team file the court documents.

[The_jackalope]

41. Yeah, who does NBC think they are?

Louise Mensch? Why should we believe their anonymous sources?

[peggysue2]

49. Hahaha.

I'll just leave it at that

[Not Ruth]

2. While widely anticipated, it is strangely different than how Manafort was arrested

In terms of the surprise factor. Wonder why? More serious crime? Greater threat of violence?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. This is great, isn't it ?

It knocks Donna B off the front page.

[Not Ruth]

12. Yes it is. I think that this is a much more violent father son team.

The father has military experience and they were potentially involved in kidnapping someone named Gulen to take him to another country.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. When he pointed a finger at Hillary he was pointing four fingers back at himself.

[calimary]

62. Lock HIM up. Lock 'em BOTH up.

Howdya like that, Flynn? It's YOU gonna be standing behind that jail door. AND maybe your scumbag ne'er-do-well son. And NOT your hated Hillary. Does tanned skin look better dressed in orange, or is it more attractive if you stay out of the sun and your tan fades?

[Merlot]

11. This is weird. If he has enough evidence, why not indict?

This is an odd story, it doesn't seem within Mullers strategy to leak info. What's the source?

[Eyeball_Kid]

23. The squeeze is on. Mueller will use Flynn

to get to Trumpy. The more pressure, the better. Flynn may buckle to protect his son.

[Merlot]

30. So you think this is a leak on purpose by Muller

to provoke trumpft? I can see Muller putting pressure on flynn in the hopse that he will flip to protect his son, but why make it public?

[Not Ruth]

34. It may have been leaked to knock Brazile out of the news cycle and hurt her book sales

Or is that a coincidence?

[MrsCoffee]

40. You mean to stop her lies?

She killed her own book sales. She is a flippin loon.

[LanternWaste]

86. It's coincidence unless or until any objective evidence

It's coincidence unless or until any objective evidence can illustrated to support the premise.

[SunSeeker]

69. It was probably leaked by a Flynn defense attorneys.

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The FBI told Manafort when they were searching his condo that he should expect to be indicted; it was Manafort's people who leaked that. I imagine the FBI issued a similar heads up to Flynn and Flynn Jr. recently, and it is the Flynn camp leaking it. 

The Flynn camp is probably trying to figure out if Trump would pardon both Flynn and Flynn Jr., so they can decide whether to flip or not. By leaking this, they may get a reassuring message from Trump, like the "stay strong" message he sent Flynn Sr. a while back. Trump has yet to send such a message about Flynn Jr., that I am aware of, so I imagine the Flynn camp is particularly nervous about Flynn Jr.

[Corvo Bianco]

79. This is all what I believe.

[lagomorph777]

87. Flynn has publicly offered to flip.

Mueller may be publicly continuing the negotiation to show other potential witnesses how it can be done.

[MineralMan]

3. I'm not sure Jon Cooper is in a position that would

give him access to such information. He doesn't appear to be that well-connected with regard to the Mueller investigation, frankly.

https://www.democraticcoalition.org/jon-cooper

Looks like he got his info from the NBC story linked above.

[shanny]

4. A leak from Mueller's team? (doubtful) or speculation?

[ecstatic]

50. I don't think it's a leak. Isn't all information Flynn publicly available?

Meaning anyone with any knowledge of the law could put together possible indictment charges?

[shanny]

57. I'm sure there's more than we know about.

A target-rich environment.

[NCTraveler]

5. Im assuming this leak was intentional.

If true, it would also need to be viewed in terms of strategy. I haven seen Muellers team leak.

[MFM008]

9. Exactly

Keeps maggot guessing.

[rzemanfl]

13. It's an offer to go easy on Flynn Jr. if Sr. flips. n/t

[Squinch]

18. Yep. They don't leak. This is intentional.

[MFM008]

35. exactly!!

..........................

[SunSeeker]

68. Doubt it. It was probably leaked by a Flynn defense attorney.

The FBI told Manafort when they were searching his condo that he should expect to be indicted; it was Manafort's people who leaked that. I imagine the FBI issued a similar heads up to Flynn and Flynn Jr. recently, and it is the Flynn camp leaking it. 

[thesquanderer]

84. All leaks are intentional. The question is only whose intent. (n/t)

[NCTraveler]

85. Not all leaks are intended by the main source of the info. Nt

[greeny2323]

7. Let's hope it comes soon

The article says Mueller's team will be speaking to multiple witnesses in the next few days, so the actual charges probably aren't tomorrow.

[OliverQ]

8. Wonder when we'll see an indictment.

[oasis]

14. Lock Flynn up....and his lil dog too!

[Madam45for2923]

15. So great!!!! Do they work on Sundays?

[Vinca]

16. Whoa - early Christmas present! Yes . . . I said the "C" word!

[Mrs. Overall]

17. When does PENCE get pulled in?

[Kirk Lover]

19. I like the way this looks written out. I like all those words strung together like that to make

that nice sentence. Let's make sure this is visible.

[Adrahil]

20. Lock him up! Lock him up!

He's a big Get for me, considering all the shit he talked about HRC

[Fritz Walter]

48. If you can stomach it, here's Flynn at the RNC convention

But first...

[Gothmog]

21. The proposed kidnapping of a cleric is being discussed on AMJOY

[Adrahil]

22. I wonder in Mueller...

Will offer to let Flynn Jr. walk if Flynn flips.

[NastyRiffraff]

46. I don't know about letting him walk, but:

From the NBC News article:

If the elder Flynn is willing to cooperate with investigators in order to help his son, two of the sources said, it could also change his own fate, potentially limiting any legal consequences.

It seems to mean that both could get reduced sentences if Flynn flips. I think, though, that the offenses are too serious to let either walk. Just my opinion, though.

[Madam45for2923]

25. So funny that Donald fired Comey over Flynn which caused Mueller which means Flynn going down!

[orangecrush]

26. And the beat goes on

The hits just keep on coming!

[Kleveland]

27. What is the verifiable source for this "news"?

I want to believe that it is true, obviously.

It is logical to assume that it is true.

I can't help but to adopt a wait-and-see attitude about this, and BLOTUS going down.

I want to be an optimist....

[grossproffit]

28. Donna Brazile must be in full panic mode now that she's not the center of attention. Poor thing.

NOT!

[ProudProgressiveNow]

29. K&R nt

[Enoki33]

31. Just a reminder of the extra ordinary attempts dotard made

to try to protect Flynn, who apparently knows where the bodies are buried.

[DeminPennswoods]

32. Flynn has already publicly said he'd tell all for

an immunity deal when he was asked to testify before the House Intel Cmte. I don't see why that would change now. This also puts Manafort in spot because now he'll have to decide if wants to cooperate or let Flynn beat him to it.

[Ligyron]

42. First to flip gets the deal?

Or they'll talk to both and pick the one with the most actionable evidence.

[certainot]

43. since r-cons control intel committee he could have lied his ass off

and gotten immunity and graham and co would be all over news saying it's all over, nothing to see.

[NastyRiffraff]

47. I doubt he'll get immunity

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Probably a reduced sentence. The charges seem to be too serious for complete immunity. Flynn has to take what he can get and be grateful for it.

[DeminPennswoods]

73. He'll have to make a proffer and likely

plead gulity to at least 1 charge ala Papadopoulos. Mueller et al alternatively might drop or reduce the charges against the son.

[FakeNoose]

77. Treason is a capital crime

Why should Flynn get immunity for anything? If he wants to tell Mueller something, fine.
But this guy doesn't get a walk. We need to see him on trial, answering for his actions.

[mucifer]

33. trump only hires the best people

[shenmue]

36. PRAISE BE TO CEILING CAT

[Sunlei]

38. always be remembered for their spams of pizza fake news,-inspired a nutcase to shoot-up a store.

[sandensea]

54. The little bastard should have been arrested that very day.

The fact that he wasn't convinced me that calls were made left and right to make sure he wasn't.

Good to see they don't have that kind of pull with Mueller.

[ananda]

39. I thought this was a leak-proof special counsel.

So, why are they leaking this?

[Cosmocat]

44. Because they are dealing with Team Leak

If they are putting the squeeze on Flynn and his half wit, simpleton son, their lawyers and everyone they are babblig to about it know ...

[uponit7771]

53. Don't think this is a "leak"

[Twitler]

56. Did you see what Trump has been saying?

He was just on TV denouncing the DOJ and wishing he could get his small hands in there and go after the "Clinton Administration". This is Mueller saying, "Not on my watch."

[flying_wahini]

58. That's an interesting shot; they both look very upset. When was it taken?

If you happen to know....

[yortsed snacilbuper]

63. In Moscow in 2015,

that's all I know.

[SHRED]

51. Maybe he flipped months ago?

And was recording.

Delicious thought.

[Sneederbunk]

52. Yates had enough evidence many months ago.

[peggysue2]

55. Leaks

When it comes to Mueller and his team, they have played everything close to the vest. Which means something like this leaking (assuming the leak is accurate) would be well planned for its timeliness and effect. Could be a last chance offer for Flynn and his son or it could be a smack at those claiming the whole investigation is a nothingburger.

Strange, too, that Mike Flynn Jr was recently tweeting a broadcast taunt to his detractors, claiming he would never be arrested. It was something of a 'catch me if you can' line. On the other hand, there are rumors out there that Mike Flynn has already flipped. So, the leak could be an effort to pull back those suspicions until Mueller and his team have interviewed and investigated the entire spider web of those involved and/or implicated.

I suspect that there are few things Mueller et al do accidentally.

[Stuart G]

59. About Getting Mike Flynn:

an original poem by Stuart G.

Getting Mike Flynn
Is really a win.
But the investigation should not stop,
Till it gets the moron at the top.


..........did you like that one...thank you

[northoftheborder]

74. Cute!

Poetry is always welcome!

[Tatiana]

60. I guess I'm in the minority. I don't think Mueller leaked this information.

I think Flynn (the elder) did via his counsel, in order to communicate a message to Trump (since he obviously can't directly speak with him). Flynn is angling for a pardon for himself and his son or he's going to deal with Mueller and rat out Trump & co.

Go back to when Comey was still FBI director. Trump was doing his best to get him to back off Flynn. Flynn can implicate him in criminal activity.

[flying_wahini]

64. Yup. I feel the same way - Flynn just putting out feelers...

I think Flynn will squeal like a pig. His son is going to go to prison, most probably.
He doesn't have time to waste.

[Honeycombe8]

70. No, the Mueller team doesn't leak. nt

[NBachers]

81. Flynn's back-door way of telegraphing "Somebody Do Something!"

[FailureToCommunicate]

61. ...

[onetexan]

65. So when do we expect Flynn & son's indictments? Tomorrow?

I was hoping Mueller would drop an indictment a week - on Mondays so we'll have the rest of the week to relish!

Bah-da bah-da-da-da
Bah-da bah-da-da-da
Bah-da bah-da-da-da
Monday, Monday, so good to me
Monday mornin´, it was all I hoped it would be
Oh Monday mornin´, Monday mornin´ couldn´t guarantee
That Monday evenin´ you would still be here with me...

[DeminPennswoods]

78. Remember those sealed cases ID'd between Papadopoulos and Manafort?

I wonder if any of them are ones against Flynn and junior?

[kentuck]

66. kick

[Not Ruth]

67. Espionage charges per a famous source, includes both Flynns and Bob Mercer

“Sources said that General Flynn did indeed discuss this offense, which was admitted, with FBI agents. However, they reported that after a brief period, a senior official entered the room and confronted General Flynn with knowledge of his wider conspiracy in Russia’s interference in the election. An outline of a case for espionage, a capital crime, where the default penalty is death, was made to Flynn senior, involving both himself and his son Mike Flynn Jr. While sources were not specific, they reported that the conversation involved both men’s knowing propagation, and co-ordination, with the Kremlin, of Russian propaganda, using an Artificial Intelligence ‘data weapon’ precisely to target that propaganda on social media. This technology and the way it was employed is also said to feature in an espionage investigation that is ongoing against Bob Mercer, sources say.”

[northoftheborder]

75. Bringing Mercer down is almost as good as bringing down Dotard and Flynn both.

[Scurrilous]

71. K&R

[IronLionZion]

76. Traveling Wilburys - End Of The Line

[mnmoderatedem]

80. Lock him and his son up! Lock him and his son up! Lock him and his son up!

nt

[nolabels]

82. I like the U-tube music video link, it gives a very nice touch to the O.P.

[Not Ruth]

83. Is there any update on this?