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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter reading the back-and-forth postings which, in essence, continue to refight the
Hillary vs. Bernie divide in our party---OUR party---, I see repeated calls for us to "come together" and "unite". It occurs to me that, given the fact that this disagreement is, after a year of shouting and finger pointing, STILL very much what we are focused upon, some of us here don't really want to unite.
Am I wrong? (And, please, don't respond with that mindless deflection: "Examples?"---as though you have no idea what I'm talking about.)
Twitler
(86 posts)Our future as a republic depends on it. There is a swamp, and now it is filled with the Russian mob and cowards. We must take back OUR government.
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)I think we need specific suggestions. If we don't like a party platform, tell us why and how we can change it.
Saying "we need new leadership;" "leaders are too old..." without specifics just hurts us old Democrats and does not work towards the future.
I think we should start with everyone here nominating someone they admire as a democrat, giving the rest of us democrats a sample of their work:videos if their talks, articles addressing their platforms and then 50 or so members here can contact that person, tell them their country needs them, ask them to run for a position in the party leadership ... otherwise make them known throughout the party.
Today I nominate Sean Patrick Maloney. Watch takedown of Tucker Carlson.
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)Why don't YOU demand that the republican leadership, you know, the ones who control Congress, ban foreign governments from lobbying Congress? Why are you insisting that the minority party, which has no sway over much of anything, demand it? You know damn well that any Democratic demands will fall on deaf ears. Go fuck yourself.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I'd suggest letting The Leap Manifesto be a guide.
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)Recent poll showed Democrats prefer a left turn--52-48%. Even if you don't believe that, Bernie got 45% of primary voters I think. Only 14% of registered voters voted in the Democratic primaries (so what, 50%? of all Dems).
Any way you slice it, there's a big split in where the party goes from here. For my money, turn left. There seem to be diminishing returns from attempting to appeal to the mythical moderate Republicans.
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)Get a list of Bernie-type progressives in the down ballot races, give us the names and let's start talking them up. We need the farm team to be brought to the majors. Like last week.
msongs
(67,406 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)threads that I have seen in the past two days has actually repeated grievances in the process of demanding that everyone else "come together."
My new strategy is to call out every instance of Democrat trashing, and to point out every instance of grievance peddling. I'm sick to death of this shit.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)That was one lesson of 2016. Another was watch what they do, not what they say. Hope that helps!
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Neither side changes the other sides mind, so I have no idea why they continue.
Its stupid; its futile, and it does nothing to help our party.
jalan48
(13,865 posts)in many cases than about the subject being discussed.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Some of these folks simply like to argue - see how ugly they can get without a hide.
jalan48
(13,865 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Pointless circular firing squads imo.
jalan48
(13,865 posts)than we do here on DU.
Spot on.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)and if the numbers are more or less even there's value in the dialectic. JMHO!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But these issues have for the most part been beaten into the ground.
I just trash the Bernie/Hillary threads now.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)here...Which is probably a 99% chance ...they probably got a big ruble bonus
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)vote straight democratic ticket
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and I'll just leave it at that.