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erinlough

(2,176 posts)
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:43 PM Nov 2017

Does your church have armed security on site?

Some Guy on MS NBC said his church has armed guard standing in the back and only one door open during the service. I don’t go to church so I’m curious how many churches have that kind of security.

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Does your church have armed security on site? (Original Post) erinlough Nov 2017 OP
Not that I am aware of. LisaM Nov 2017 #1
Nope JDC Nov 2017 #2
I think most people think that God will protect them. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #3
That worked out well. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #10
Maybe at the next service they should take up a collection BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author exboyfil Nov 2017 #4
Seldom go to church, not very religious. But I do understand/support community aspect of churches. Hoyt Nov 2017 #5
The synagogue around the corner from me has guards outside during services . . . Journeyman Nov 2017 #6
None that I know have such security unc70 Nov 2017 #7
Few churches have guards. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #8
Large churches tend to hire security for traffic control... LeftInTX Nov 2017 #9
Do Nuns count? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #11
Armed with rulers? Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #13
ours does demtenjeep Nov 2017 #12
One of our local churches is full of gun nuts randr Nov 2017 #14
Its actually very common but unseen to most church members Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #16
Very interesting. We got to a pretty big church but only on Easter underpants Nov 2017 #17
No security guards zeusdogmom Nov 2017 #18
Not mine shenmue Nov 2017 #19

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Seldom go to church, not very religious. But I do understand/support community aspect of churches.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:53 PM
Nov 2017

But, I would not attend a church that had to have security or thought it is OK for the congregation to come armed.

That just seems to detract from the whole reason to attend.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
6. The synagogue around the corner from me has guards outside during services . . .
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:57 PM
Nov 2017

I spoke with one a few weeks ago, asked if he was there to protect the cars or against some more nefarious fear. Unfortunately, they weren't there just for parking control. No idea if they're armed. They weren't openly carrying. But they definitely had a look of hard men who could produce weapons with a moment's notice.

Sad state of affairs, here in the land of my birth.

unc70

(6,114 posts)
7. None that I know have such security
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:04 PM
Nov 2017

I do not personally know any churches with armed security. We tend to be pacifists.

LeftInTX

(25,336 posts)
9. Large churches tend to hire security for traffic control...
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:05 PM
Nov 2017

I assume the same security probably stays for the service.

randr

(12,412 posts)
14. One of our local churches is full of gun nuts
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:22 PM
Nov 2017

I know them. The Trump crowd around here gather once a week to pretend they are Christians and then head to the local range for a weekly shoot.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
16. Its actually very common but unseen to most church members
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:25 PM
Nov 2017

I have helped many churches set up plans and systems like this.

It is typically a few members that have law enforcement and/or military experience who form a security committee. Always invitation only and usually not spoken of outside the group.

They will work out plans for who sit where, and the ministers will have a prearranged sign or signals they can give from the pulpit if they see someone out of place walking in so they can make the others aware.

Around here the local sheriffs offices and police departments even run special seminars on it for the clergy, keeping them up to date on threats and advising on security measures and plans.

If you attend a church of any size the odds are your church has some sort of security committee/team in place and at work, but that you are just not aware of it. I would advise any church that doesn’t to at least consider the idea and come up with a plan consistent with the values of the congregation and the skill sets of the members who would be willing and able to participate.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
17. Very interesting. We got to a pretty big church but only on Easter
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:32 PM
Nov 2017

Mostly so the grandparents can show off their one and only grandchild (my daughter).
I'd wondered about that and have found myself taking a look over my shoulder from time to time.

We just saw the new Thor movie. There's a scene with earth weapons (M16's) and I found myself checking the exits by the screen when it started. BTW I'm waiting for a week or so before seeing the new Star Wars movie. Sad that I have to consider this in my family's life.

zeusdogmom

(994 posts)
18. No security guards
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:35 PM
Nov 2017

But our ushers go thru a special "awareness training" every year. One usher is usually outside the sanctuary in the gathering area just to monitor comings and going.

The training is not intense - God forbid someone walks in with a gun intent on killing there is nary a chance to call 911. There is some discussion on looking for unusual behaviors.

For the most part it is how to give instructions when calling the ambulance or fire dept. - which parking lot to use, which door to use, etc. And yes the emergency vehicles have been called. Twice one Christmas eve - someone went down during each candle light service. And just a couple of weeks ago during the 11:00 service.

I can't imagine the horror of being in a mass shooting situation. Simply cannot imagine it.

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