Press Conference on Sutherland Springs shooting...

[brooklynite]

Young white male, early 20s, dressed in black tactical gear and a ballistic vest

Suspect started firing outside the church, then went inside

Used a Ruger AR assault type rifle

When the suspect came out, a local resident fired at him with his rifle

Suspect dropped his rifle and fled in his car

Car was found crashed off the road and suspect was deceased; unknown if self0inflicted or result of the local resident's shooting

Multiple weapons found in the vehicle

23 deceased found in the church, 2 deceased outside the church, one deceased at hospital

[inwiththenew]

1. The elusive good guy with a gun finally showed up

That's 1 out of how many shootings now?

[Ms. Toad]

14. He showed up after everyone had already been shot. n/t

[itsrobert]

2. Aprubtly ended.

Seems like they didn't want to answer questions. Left in a hurry.

[riversedge]

3. NOW IS the time for #guncontrol.........retweet this over and over

@SenateMajLdr @speakerRyan DO SOMETHING @nancyPelosi @SenSchumer NOW IS THE TIME TO PASS STRICT #GUNCONTROL PRAYERS ARE NOT ENOUGH #txlege

[Angry Dragon]

10. See this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029801454

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Why is this not being called terrorism?

[SummerSnow]

15. cause he is white, loved his gun, went to to military, taught bible school...He's one of them.

[TheCowsCameHome]

18. I see. A God fearin', NRA lovin' true patriot - I must've overlooked that.

My bad.

[BigmanPigman]

5. This is a gender issue more than

a second amend issue!

[smirkymonkey]

13. Yes, the one thing in common all these mass shooters seem to have is that they are men.

And almost always white, conservative men.

[BigmanPigman]

16. This was written after Las Vegas...

short article from Time Mag addressing this point.
http://time.com/4968842/one-undeniable-factor-in-gun-violence-men/

[smirkymonkey]

17. Thanks for that. Very good article.

Just a snip...

"Many are hoarded by “super-owners,” a group of mostly-male extremists who make up just three percent of the adult American population, but own an average of 17 guns apiece. Women are increasingly buying handguns for protection, and that seems to be their actual motivation: they own a single gun, and they keep it in case of an emergency (one suspects, too, that the imagined assailant they are protecting themselves from is a man).

Male gun owners are more likely to bind their recreational lives and identities to their guns and “gun culture”: they hunt, go shooting, watch gun-related shows in TV, and seek out more gun-related recreation and information. This intersects with other aspects of identity: Ninety-one percent of Republican gun owners agree that “the right to own guns is essential to their own sense of freedom.” White men are much more likely to own guns than non-whites, and the “super-owners” amassing arsenals of weapons are particularly likely to be white, male and conservative. Among gun hoarders — those who own at least five guns — almost half say being a gun owner is “very important” to their identity. Being friends with other gun owners also increases the probability a person will tie their identity to gun ownership, and gun owners tend to socialize with other gun owners: 54 percent of men who own guns say all or most of their friends own guns, too."

[Hoyt]

6. Seems to me that when someone acquires a bunch of weapons and accessories - like a ballistic vest -

it's time for someone to pay a visit to assess the situation, just like child protective services does.

Maybe I'm being facetious, but the obvious signs are there with this guy and most mass shooters. Even if these type people don't turn into mass shooters, they are contributing to this mess and many need some help.

[Angry Dragon]

11. Not at all---------good point

[Nevernose]

7. The average attendance for that church is 45 people

And the regular Pastor was out of town.

He shot everyone in the church. An entire church full of people.

[lpbk2713]

12. Including the pastor's 14 yo daughter.

When will it end?

[jeffreyi]

8. Sounds like the damage was done

Before the guy exited the church and was shot by the local?

[SCVDem]

9. When was the last time

A woman did this?