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underpants

(182,829 posts)
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:42 PM Nov 2017

Dead people in movies. This one's weird.

So many have seen the trailer for the new Star Wars movie. Carrie Fisher as Leia appears to be a big part of the movie. Okay she passed away less than a year ago.

I'd missed that there was a "Cars 3" released this summer. They had enough voice stock of Paul Newman to put him in the movie. He passed in 2008.

That seems a bit odd to me.

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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
2. You must have seen Plan 9 From Outer Space
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:47 PM
Nov 2017

Bela Lugosi was the big name in it, but he died during filming. They just had a stand in play all his parts with his face covered.

Point is, they've been doing this for a long, long time.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
5. Yep, happened with Jean Harlow as well (double was used in scenes shot after Harlow died)
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:54 PM
Nov 2017

This has been going on in movies for a very long time -- well before the digital age. I am not sure what's so troubling about it. It's been happening for decades.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
11. Brandon Lee was shot onset during the filming of "The Crow" in Wilmington
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:38 PM
Nov 2017

The production company ended up hiring a stand in for a few critical scenes so they could finish the movie.


Cirque du So-What

(25,941 posts)
6. I recommend that you refrain from watching any movies made in the 1930s
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 03:15 PM
Nov 2017

You could point at all the characters and say, 'Dead. Dead. Yup, dead' That may not apply to babies in those movies, but they made rare appearances.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
10. There are talent agents that represent dead celebrities
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:36 PM
Nov 2017

60 Minutes did an expose on this. Marilyn Monroe still appears in some ads.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. Don't worry - in the future they will simply digitally recreate actors
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:40 PM
Nov 2017

Both their voices and their appearance. They might use a body double to map the famous star's appearance over, but you will not be able to tell.

Image cloning has been possible for a while. Recently Adobe has announced they will be releasing software to clone voices in real time.

Imitating people’s speech patterns precisely could bring trouble

Apr 20th 2017

UTTER 160 or so French or English phrases into a phone app developed by CandyVoice, a new Parisian company, and the app’s software will reassemble tiny slices of those sounds to enunciate, in a plausible simulacrum of your own dulcet tones, whatever typed words it is subsequently fed. In effect, the app has cloned your voice. The result still sounds a little synthetic but CandyVoice’s boss, Jean-Luc Crébouw, reckons advances in the firm’s algorithms will render it increasingly natural. Similar software for English and four widely spoken Indian languages, developed under the name of Festvox, by Carnegie Mellon University’s Language Technologies Institute, is also available. And Baidu, a Chinese internet giant, says it has software that needs only 50 sentences to simulate a person’s voice.

Until recently, voice cloning—or voice banking, as it was then known—was a bespoke industry which served those at risk of losing the power of speech to cancer or surgery. Creating a synthetic copy of a voice was a lengthy and pricey process. It meant recording many phrases, each spoken many times, with different emotional emphases and in different contexts (statement, question, command and so forth), in order to cover all possible pronunciations. Acapela Group, a Belgian voice-banking company, charges €3,000 ($3,200) for a process that requires eight hours of recording. Other firms charge more and require a speaker to spend days in a sound studio.

Not any more. Software exists that can store slivers of recorded speech a mere five milliseconds long, each annotated with a precise pitch. These can be shuffled together to make new words, and tweaked individually so that they fit harmoniously into their new sonic homes. This is much cheaper than conventional voice banking, and permits novel uses to be developed. With little effort, a wife can lend her voice to her blind husband’s screen-reading software. A boss can give his to workplace robots. A Facebook user can listen to a post apparently read aloud by its author. Parents often away on business can personalise their children’s wirelessly connected talking toys. And so on. At least, that is the vision of Gershon Silbert, boss of VivoText, a voice-cloning firm in Tel Aviv.

https://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21721128-you-took-words-right-out-my-mouth-imitating-peoples-speech-patterns
 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
13. Vic Morrow
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:04 PM
Nov 2017
Twilight Zone: The Movie and death
Main article: Twilight Zone accident

In 1982, Morrow was cast in a feature role in Twilight Zone: The Movie, in a segment directed by John Landis. Morrow was playing the role of Bill Connor, a racist who is taken back in time and placed in various situations where he would be a persecuted victim: as a Jewish Holocaust victim, a black man about to be lynched by the Ku Klux Klan, and a Vietnamese man about to be killed by U.S. soldiers.

In the early morning hours of July 23, 1982, Morrow and two child actors, 7-year-old Myca Dinh Le, and 6-year-old Renee Shin-Yi Chen, were filming on location in California, in an area that was known as Indian Dunes, near Santa Clarita. They were performing in a scene for the Vietnam sequence, in which their characters attempt to escape out of a deserted Vietnamese village from a pursuing U.S. Army helicopter. The helicopter was hovering at approximately 24 feet (7.3 m) above them when the heat from special effect pyrotechnic explosions reportedly delaminated the rotor blades[10] and caused the helicopter to crash on top of them, killing all three instantly. Morrow and Le were decapitated by the helicopter rotor, while Chen was crushed by a helicopter strut.[11][12]

Landis and four other defendants, including pilot Dorsey Wingo, were ultimately acquitted of involuntary manslaughter after a nearly nine-month trial. The parents of Le and Chen sued and settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. Morrow's children also sued and settled for an undisclosed amount.[12][13]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_Zone:_The_Movie#.22Time_Out.22

Initech

(100,080 posts)
15. Star Wars 8 was finished filming before Carrie Fisher passed.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:39 PM
Nov 2017

Just like The Dark Knight had finished filming before Heath Ledger died. Movies go through about a million editing channels after they finish filming for various reasons, and both movies got caught up in similar scenarios.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
17. He wasn't dead, but after Curly Howard's first stroke during a shooting.....
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:47 PM
Nov 2017

they used a bunch of canned footage to finish the film. I guess continuity wasn't all that important shooting shorts. That, or we were to assume Curly was a quick change artist.

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