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comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:44 PM Nov 2017

Donna Brazile Denies She Used the Word Rigged in Her Book Gets Fact Checked By Her Book

Donna Brazile Denies She Used the Word ‘Rigged’ in Her Book — Gets Fact Checked By Her Book
https://www.mediaite.com/print/donna-brazile-denies-she-used-the-word-rigged-in-her-book-gets-fact-checked-by-her-book/

“So people are upset and you know, you understand,” co-host Whoopi Goldberg stated. “So explain why you didn’t realize people would take the idea of Hillary bailing out the party years — or whenever she did it as something that was bad and robbed Bernie of his ability to be president. I mean, that’s how — that’s the message that’s being put out in your name.”

Brazile responded, “First of all, I never used the word ‘rigged’ in my book. I said that — I used the word ‘cancer’ in that I was uncomfortable with the cancer that I found when I became chair.”

While the ex-party chair is claiming she never used that word in her book, the actual words she wrote down tell a different story.

Followed by an excerpt from the politico story and direct quotes from her book contradicting her denial.

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Donna Brazile Denies She Used the Word Rigged in Her Book Gets Fact Checked By Her Book (Original Post) comradebillyboy Nov 2017 OP
Oh & Cancer Is Such A Good Word Me. Nov 2017 #1
+1 spooky3 Nov 2017 #29
If I never hear or see Ms. Brazile again, it will be too soon still_one Nov 2017 #2
Donna Brazile can go fuck herself! Actually, SHE is now the "cancer". NurseJackie Nov 2017 #3
Im with you. cwydro Nov 2017 #13
Ditto. awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #26
How would she know what is in her book? MineralMan Nov 2017 #4
Thanks for the post. Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #6
Maybe she can't read. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #7
That appears to be the case. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #8
:shrug: MineralMan Nov 2017 #22
Sounds like she doesn't know what 's marybourg Nov 2017 #5
Having been a ghost-writer, myself, I know that many people MineralMan Nov 2017 #9
Here you go, since you opened the door THIS is worth a look Wwcd Nov 2017 #14
You're more ambitious than I am. MineralMan Nov 2017 #18
Well that is the first I've read as to this strange thing that makes sense. Wwcd Nov 2017 #24
There seem to be a lot of inter-relationships between OTM, Canal, and now Javelin. Some of it.... George II Nov 2017 #23
That seems to be the driving force pre-& post 11/2016 Wwcd Nov 2017 #28
Yep, she used the word "rigged" in her book: SunSeeker Nov 2017 #10
Wow, thanks for posting that. cwydro Nov 2017 #15
So she used the words "rigged/rigging" in order to report that there was no rigging. lapucelle Nov 2017 #33
She says that now; but in her book, she indicated the HFA agreement was evidence of rigging: SunSeeker Nov 2017 #34
She didn't proof read the final book? Iliyah Nov 2017 #11
She still hasn't read it all the way through. MineralMan Nov 2017 #19
I lost all respect for her Gothmog Nov 2017 #12
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #16
?! Wow! Enjoy your fame & money DB! Wwcd Nov 2017 #30
Just whom are you nominating to bring a libel suit? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #35
Donna Brazile will need a lot of ointment to treat the self-inflicted burns here DFW Nov 2017 #17
No. She didn't write it, I guarantee. MineralMan Nov 2017 #21
That is more or less what I was trying to imply DFW Nov 2017 #25
I'm curious as to who she thinks leftynyc Nov 2017 #20
Carter Page vs Donna Brazile Not Ruth Nov 2017 #27
Lol. That's a tough one. Wwcd Nov 2017 #31
so angry riverwalker Nov 2017 #32
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Im with you.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:11 PM
Nov 2017

And I used to like her.

I’m sickened at this whole mess she’s perpetrated, and I hope to hell it bounces back to splatter all over her.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
7. Maybe she can't read.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:54 PM
Nov 2017

She obviously couldn't find her way through the agreement so why would we think she can read?

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
5. Sounds like she doesn't know what 's
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:49 PM
Nov 2017

In her own book. Could it be it was "written " by her the same way tRump's book "The Art of the Deal" was "written " by him?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Having been a ghost-writer, myself, I know that many people
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:57 PM
Nov 2017

who have "written" books never really read them carefully after their ghost-writer completes them. That's a big mistake, but it's a very, very common one. The chances that Donna Brazile wrote the book are about slim to none. Has she read it closely? Probably not.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
14. Here you go, since you opened the door THIS is worth a look
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:12 PM
Nov 2017

I was curious who her publisher was as well as her marketing co.

Google took me from one name to the next & 4 hrs later I had to stop to sleep.

I want to know if DB approached them or if they sought her out.
Did they promise her they could get her $1 millon, like they did for D Rumsfeld?

The two who marketed her book were both speech writers for Rummy. In 2014 they started their business, Javelin, (named after Rumsfeld's wife's Secret Sv code name.)

One year later, in Old Town Alexandria, Va they began the media marketing business with No prior exprience other than their gig with Rummy.

I became suspicious & dived in deeper.

The Publisher, Hatchett Books came from Simon & Schuster before he was offered the position at Hatchett. He bought & published the Million $ deal from Rummys speechwriters-turned-media marketers.
The article at the link will take you through this. I won't do it justice to try to explain it any further.

I found the whole thing stunning yet completly predictable considering who Brazile hooked herself to with her book deal.
---------

I'll give you all the links & what I gathered.

My suspicions, I'll hold on to.
The address alone lead me to another suspicion. A business quickly started, yet has been been kept under the radar.

I believe they are all connected.
I'm still working on that one.


Thank you & sleuth on. Every mystery has an explanation. A point of origin.
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We'll start here.

"Here's a page from Javelin, seems they specialize in right wing "literary" promotions. Check out those they've represented, among them:"

Donald Rumsfeld
Mike Lee
Tucker Carlson
Ben Sasse
Erick Erickson
Salena Zito
DONNA BRAZILE
http://javelindc.com/literary/

Here are the others I read:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2015/02/06/former-rumsfeld-aides-dc-book-business/

Now we move on to CANAL
https://sunlightfoundation.com/2015/12/14/why-is-a-democratic-media-firm-buying-ads-for-a-controversial-minnesota-mine/

SNIP
"This (CANAL) is a group that’s known for placing ads supporting Democrats (generally the more pro-environment party) and which has worked with environmental groups in the past.

Why is it now working for a coalition of mining companies loathed by environmental groups?

We reached out to Canal to ask about this curious arrangement, and we haven’t heard back."

CANAL, JAVELIN

As I said there is another direction I'm taking on Javelin, located in Old Towne Alexandria VA.

Its not that big a stretch to connect who may have been involved in the production of DB's book.
The clues are there & the list of Media Marketing cream of the crop in money making for their clients, cannot be that vast.
They all know who's who in getting the correct message out & the most bang for their Media buck in Old Towne Alexandria

Thanks



MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. You're more ambitious than I am.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:27 PM
Nov 2017

I don't really care that much. I'm sure she didn't write her own book. Few people at her level ever take that much time to do a project, and most are crappy writers. So, her publisher sent her a ghost writer they've worked with. She had some meetings with Brazile, got some documents that covered the time period from her, and went to work.

She/he was working on a flat rate basis and had a strict time limit. So the ghost banged it out to the best of her or his ability and handed it over. No doubt Brazile had editorial power and could insist on changes, but she didn't probably read past the first couple of chapters and says, "Fine. It's OK." Meanwhile the deadline is looming and the publisher's editor didn't have adequate time to fact check everything, so she or he didn't look that closely except for spelling and grammar problems.

Before you know it, galley proofs are overnighted to Brazile, who has two days to check for critical changes she want's to make. Never mind, she says...I have stuff to do. So off it goes to the printer. Brazile gets a dozen copies in a box, and the rest get shipped to strategic bookstores for launch date. Brazile still doesn't read the whole thing, and gets blindsided by egregious errors that made it all the way to the printer.

And there you have it. The ghost writer has already deposited the check for $nn,nnn and that's it. Three months later, the book is on the remainders shelves with the price discounted to $2.50, but nobody wants it even at that price.

Such is the life of a ghost writer for third-tier political figures.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
24. Well that is the first I've read as to this strange thing that makes sense.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:59 PM
Nov 2017

I'll take your word for it, from one who's clearly been there.
Thanks

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. There seem to be a lot of inter-relationships between OTM, Canal, and now Javelin. Some of it....
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:43 PM
Nov 2017

....very mysterious in that very little detail is known about who really works for or with Old Towne Media, and the possible connections with republicans (most notably Donald Rumsfeld)

You've done quite a bit of research here, thanks. One wonders what some of the answers are to the questions you've raised. All I can say for now is that there has been a lot of money changing hands over the last several years - tens of millions of dollars, perhaps even into the hundreds of millions.

Who were the beneficiaries of all this money spent?

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
28. That seems to be the driving force pre-& post 11/2016
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:12 PM
Nov 2017

There's an opportunity to cash in every election year & those that know the business of messaging were willing to ask for bigger $$ than ever before.
Cash in they did, regardless of the damage to people & country.

Hoarded greed.

Yes when I read that Javelin was quickly set up in Old Towne Alexandria, I decided to look further.
What I found as to who is connected in that particular location and the same questionable names kept coming up, it isn't a difficult stretch in wondering just who had a hand in writing in the scandalous parts of DB's book.
There was a two-fold purpose behind this book.
Media & Money.

They all got what they came for at a cost to our society.
I'll save my futher findings for another group I work with.

Thanks george.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
10. Yep, she used the word "rigged" in her book:
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017
While the ex-party chair is claiming she never used that word in her book, the actual words she wrote down tell a different story. In the excerpt that was published in Politico a few days ago, the second paragraph reads as follows:

I had promised Bernie when I took the helm of the Democratic National Committee after the convention that I would get to the bottom of whether Hillary Clinton’s team had rigged the nomination process, as a cache of emails stolen by Russian hackers and posted online had suggested. I’d had my suspicions from the moment I walked in the door of the DNC a month or so earlier, based on the leaked emails. But who knew if some of them might have been forged? I needed to have solid proof, and so did Bernie.


Further down, she mentioned “rigging” when referring to the funding agreement between Clinton’s campaign and the DNC while stating that it “compromised the party’s integrity.”

I had tried to search out any other evidence of internal corruption that would show that the DNC was rigging the system to throw the primary to Hillary, but I could not find any in party affairs or among the staff. I had gone department by department, investigating individual conduct for evidence of skewed decisions, and I was happy to see that I had found none. Then I found this agreement.

The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not illegal, but it sure looked unethical. If the fight had been fair, one campaign would not have control of the party before the voters had decided which one they wanted to lead. This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity.

https://www.mediaite.com/print/donna-brazile-denies-she-used-the-word-rigged-in-her-book-gets-fact-checked-by-her-book/
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. Wow, thanks for posting that.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:12 PM
Nov 2017

I have no intention of reading her book, so I appreciate seeing it here.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
34. She says that now; but in her book, she indicated the HFA agreement was evidence of rigging:
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:57 PM
Nov 2017

Last edited Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:00 PM - Edit history (1)

...she mentioned “rigging” when referring to the funding agreement between Clinton’s campaign and the DNC while stating that it “compromised the party’s integrity.”

I had tried to search out any other evidence of internal corruption that would show that the DNC was rigging the system to throw the primary to Hillary, but I could not find any in party affairs or among the staff. I had gone department by department, investigating individual conduct for evidence of skewed decisions, and I was happy to see that I had found none. Then I found this agreement.

The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not illegal, but it sure looked unethical. If the fight had been fair, one campaign would not have control of the party before the voters had decided which one they wanted to lead. This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity.

https://www.mediaite.com/print/donna-brazile-denies-she-used-the-word-rigged-in-her-book-gets-fact-checked-by-her-book/

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. She still hasn't read it all the way through.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:28 PM
Nov 2017

She never did. The ghost writer is the only one who has actually read the book, because he or she wrote it.

Response to comradebillyboy (Original post)

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
30. ?! Wow! Enjoy your fame & money DB!
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:19 PM
Nov 2017

Last edited Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Maybe she heard of someone' slapping a libel suit on her & her book!

Hope someone does.
She can explain those scandalous parts in court papers.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
35. Just whom are you nominating to bring a libel suit?
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:21 AM
Nov 2017

The plaintiff in a libel suit can be deposed. That means that the defendant's attorney sits across the table and asks question after question after question. The plaintiff must answer every one of them, under oath, and a court reporter will prepare a verbatim written transcript. In a case like this it might be videotaped, depending on the rules of the jurisdiction where it's brought.

The plaintiff can also be required to produce copies of all relevant documents. "That was an internal campaign document, not for publication" doesn't fly -- cough it up, says the judge.

Incidentally, nonparties can also be required to produce documents and to appear for deposition, if they might have relevant information. The old maxim is, "The law has a right to every man's evidence." (Blackstone wasn't into gender-neutral wording.) Regardless of who brings the lawsuit, there could be depositions of Robby Mook, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, that guy who became DNC Communications Director after being named by the Clinton campaign pursuant to the agreement, and maybe others. And the DNC can be forced to produce its files even if it's not the plaintiff.

I'm going to make a prediction: There will be no libel suit.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
17. Donna Brazile will need a lot of ointment to treat the self-inflicted burns here
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:18 PM
Nov 2017

How feeble-minded can you get to make a statement like THAT?

I'd ask if she has even read her own book, but now I'm starting to wonder if, indeed, she even wrote most of it.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
21. No. She didn't write it, I guarantee.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:30 PM
Nov 2017

She hasn't read it, either. A mid-range ghost writer with some political experience did. Three or four hours of meetings with Brazile and a pile of documents and that was that. Perhaps not the sloppiest job ever, but close.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
25. That is more or less what I was trying to imply
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:02 PM
Nov 2017

Brazile was just trying to raise some money with the book's advance, I suspect. She wouldn't have forgotten anything that important--or if she did, then she has no business being anywhere near the party leadership in the first place. Like you said--sloppy.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. I'm curious as to who she thinks
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:30 PM
Nov 2017

is going to buy her book. Burned her bridges as far as most Democrats are concerned.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
31. Lol. That's a tough one.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:56 PM
Nov 2017

Wouldn't that suck to end your entire career being the joke of the political world cuz one day ya just wouldn't shut up.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
32. so angry
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 06:29 PM
Nov 2017

I hope she just goes away before she destroys more of our party. Her timing is atrocious. I have the Chertow book on General Grant and the Matthews book on Bobby Kennedy, why on earth would I want to read her destructive crap.

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