an honest question:did (supposedly) most white women vote for trump?

[DonCoquixote]

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2016/11/10/more-white-women-voted-for-donald-trump-than-for-hillary-clinton/

The article quoted above gives one figure, and I have heard figures as low as 52%, to as high as 55% Now, if this is true (and I confess I have my doubts) two questions occur: what happened? and Two what can be done to prevent that from happening again?

[progree]

1. CNN: white women: 52% to 43% Trump to Hillary

http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/national/president

I see your New York Times link has 53%, oh well.

Overall, 53 percent of white women voted for Trump

They should all be the same, since there was one and only one exit poll is my understanding that all media reported on -- from Edison Research. http://www.edisonresearch.com/election-polling/ a survey of more than 24,000 voters per http://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11

Depends how much you believe exit polls, plenty of links say they are really really flawed, other links say they are a gold standard, and any difference in so-called actual results and exit polls by more than a couple percent indicate near certainty of shenanigans.

There might also be confusion for ALL women, per CNN: 54% to 41% -- pretty much the same percent. (Different direction though -- the 54% in this case was for Hillary).

[treestar]

19. I have them in my family

They are either

1 - racists
2 - misogynists - they like to think they are better than other women
3 - socially conservative - lived a life dependent on husbands, pre-feminist and find it threatening that men are not obligated to support them if we take feminism as a thing requiring women to be independent
4 - obsessed with being anti-abortion to the exclusion of any other issue (their men can be that too).

[lunamagica]

2. Yes, I'd love to know why. I just don't get it. Appart from Hillary being the most qualified

candidate in decades, having a woman POTUS would have been a giantic step in the progress of womankind. A huge, positive change which could only benefit these women, and their daughters; OTOH, there was trump, a misogynist woman abuser, woman hater.

Why could women from all other ethnicity see that, but not these white women?

[BainsBane]

4. Because white people favor Republicans

Not all—not me—but the majority do.

[lunamagica]

6. I get that, but trump? It's baffling to me

[BainsBane]

7. And theyll vote for Moore too

[progree]

8. Yup. And in Virginia white women went for Gillespie by 51% to 48% (and white men by 63% to 36%)

White men voted for Gillespie over Northam by 63% to 36%. White women voted for Gillespie by 51% to 48%. Overall white: 57% to 42%. Keep in mind Gillespie ran as filth and racist a campaign as Virgina has seen in many years.

Link to tweet

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A 3% spread isn't too bad though.

[lunamagica]

10. But why? Why?

[Hortensis]

18. Have we forgotten Russia, FBI, NYT, the AP so soon?

This nation was blanketed in lies that intensified to a blizzard as we came up to election day. They were almost all lies about Hillary, but that's because she was the Democratic Party candidate for president.

They were an enormous effort to keep power in the hands of those who'd serve the kleptocrats who engineered it, both American billionaires and Russian. Which is to say, the Republicans.

Btw, a Foreign Service officer has now issued a warning that treason may be involved in the dismantling of our foreign service. She doesn't use that word, but the warning is clear.

Imagine a store with no one at the counter. What do people who come to purchase, deal, get help negotiating a peaceful solution to a dispute over water do? They go to another store. Now imagine that "counter" is America's all over the world, and nations who come find no one there. Where do they go instead?

Today's Republicans serve very, very bad forces. We're the good guys who had to be stopped.
This is "why" it happened.

It's also why we really must investigate Comey's actions, remove from office and imprison the traitors among us, require TV and cable networks to dedicate time to genuine news, and break up the giant multinational wire services like the Associated Press. And, of course, destroy the billionaire class before it destroys us.

"One risks underestimating how intense the struggle for power is going to be." -- David Frum

[BainsBane]

3. Yes, as they voted for Romney

And most, perhaps all, Republicans before. A majority of Whites haven’t voted for a Dem presidential candidate since 1964. More women than men vote Democrat, but race continues to be a fault line.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029819191

[JI7]

5. they usually vote Republican . not as high as white men but it's how the vote usually goes

[Awsi Dooger]

9. We didn't win white women during the 2006 midterm

Despite picking up 31 House seats we lost white women 50-49 according to the national House exit poll

[pnwmom]

11. Except for college educated white women, who preferred Hillary. Unfortunately,

there weren't enough of them.

[Rhiannon12866]

12. Who are they talking to? I don't know a single woman - white or not - who can stand Trump

How any woman could possibly vote for the pussy-grabbing creep is unimaginable to me.

[cyclonefence]

13. Read "America's First White President"

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

This essay is eye-opening about who voted for Trump. Many of our assumptions about the archetypal supporter are wrong, or at least incomplete. I can't recommend this piece strongly enough.

[Agschmid]

15. Worth the read!

[Agschmid]

14. Yes, the majority of white woman voters voted for Trump.

Careful though, this can been seen as a divisive attack on a group if you point out this fact.

[GreenEyedLefty]

16. I bet if this were researched we would find that straight white women who vote Republican

tend to vote the same as their husbands/SO's.

I think the notion that men are head of the house prevails. It is common in evangelical Christianity. I also think we would find that this is especially true among older women.

[progree]

20. Here is how it broke down for Romney in 2012 - marriage has a ton to do with it

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at least as far as a statistical correlation. And no, I don't think that the vast majority of married white females (by a 24 point margin) are "obeying their husbands", like they are so fucked up that in the privacy of the voting booth they still vote the way their husband wants them to, rather than the way they want to. It's just that a conservative worldview and marriage seem to go together, at least more often than it does in unmarriage, in both genders. Statistically speaking again.

http://elections.reuters.com/#poll

Well, that is where I got this according to my notes, but unfortunately I can't find it anymore, even in the wayback machine (archive.org).

--v--Margin by which white females voted for Romney over Obama in 2012

+13% white females overall

+24% married white females
+ 5% unmarried white females

-18% never married white females
-39% living with partner white females

-35% heterosexual and living with partner white females

Indentation is used to indicate subcategories. Bold indicates categories that voted more for Romney than Obama. Normal font is for the opposite -- voted for Obama more than Romney.

Anyway, unmarried white females (as a group) favored Romney too, by a margin of 5%, at least in this exit poll. Its those 3 unbold font subcategories of unmarried that broke in the Obama direction big time.

I haven't been able to find the equivalent for 2016. But I did find marriage and gender in the CNN reporting (the below are all races, not whites only)..
http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/national/president

Trump over Clinton, all races, in 2016:
Married men(+19), Married women(-2), Unmarried men(-2), Unmarried women(-29)

According to that, marriage makes a 21% difference among men, and 27% difference among women in how they vote, statistically speaking and ignoring a lot of other co-occuring factors.

[dpd3672]

17. I think it's a dangerous premise

that having a vagina in common with a candidate means you agree on every other issue.

Clearly, Hillary didn't have a nearly 100% lock on female voters as many seem to think, and it's kind of insulting to suggest that they're just obeying their husbands, or that it's a lack of college education.

[BainsBane]

21. Demographics are not insults

Hillary won college educated white women (51%) but not those without a college degree (34%). https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-couldnt-win-over-white-women/
The fact is the majority of Whites always vote Republican, and that includes women. https://www.democraticunderground.com/1002981919

Facts matter, no matter how inconvenient they may be to a particular political agenda.

[radical noodle]

22. Who suggested that women

vote with their vagina? Seriously? Hillary didn't have a lock on white female voters (although I doubt that many suggested she did) but she did have nearly 100% support from black women, who are savvy voters and didn't buy the bullshit that was put out about Hillary the last two years.

[LanternWaste]

23. Oddly enough, you inaccurately inferred both the premise and the conclusion.

Oddly enough, you inaccurately inferred both the premise and the conclusion, and your alleged sentiment that people believe Clinton had a 100% lock on female voters.

You spelled everything correctly though, and misused grammar only twice, so there's that...