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Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:06 PM Nov 2017

I've been thinking a lot about Roy Moore's statement about asking permission

of the mother before dating those teen aged girls. Why didn't he ask their fathers? Did he know that he would likely get an ass kicking? Or did he prey on young girls who had no father figure in the home?

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I've been thinking a lot about Roy Moore's statement about asking permission (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Nov 2017 OP
sort of skirts the major issue, which to me is why would anyone NEED to ask permission unless hlthe2b Nov 2017 #1
I totally agree with you on that. I've just wondered why he specifically Arkansas Granny Nov 2017 #3
Men of his generation did ask permission in the South before dating. former9thward Nov 2017 #5
I've read assertions that there were no father figures. Yonnie3 Nov 2017 #2
Well, according to some things I've read from RW'ers... ret5hd Nov 2017 #4
That is what I posted earlier. It hit me about that during Joy Reid this am. LiberalFighter Nov 2017 #6
Maybe some of those Mothers will come forward. rickford66 Nov 2017 #7
How can one person give permission for another person, MineralMan Nov 2017 #8
Didnt he encounter the 14 year Old at a custody hearing? Grammy23 Nov 2017 #9
That's classic pedophile behavior lunatica Nov 2017 #12
Exactly. First they gain their trust. Arkansas Granny Nov 2017 #14
Very informative link. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #17
According to the story the girl's mother was going to a custody hearing lunatica Nov 2017 #10
Oh he was just speaking to the situation. Making up something that would counter her. nolabear Nov 2017 #11
The missing story - if you have to ask her mother for permission, she's too young for you!!! Lil Missy Nov 2017 #13
scum like that prey on young people from broken homes, insecure or both Motley13 Nov 2017 #15
I think its related to the still existing legality of parental permission to marry aikoaiko Nov 2017 #16

hlthe2b

(102,300 posts)
1. sort of skirts the major issue, which to me is why would anyone NEED to ask permission unless
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:08 PM
Nov 2017

the daughter was underage. ???

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
3. I totally agree with you on that. I've just wondered why he specifically
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:12 PM
Nov 2017

mentioned getting the permission of the mothers.

former9thward

(32,028 posts)
5. Men of his generation did ask permission in the South before dating.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:15 PM
Nov 2017

Assuming the single woman was still living at home which they usually were. Part of the culture. This was not a Moore thing.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
2. I've read assertions that there were no father figures.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:09 PM
Nov 2017

I don't know if that is true. I think that having no father figure would make these girls more susceptible.

ret5hd

(20,501 posts)
4. Well, according to some things I've read from RW'ers...
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:13 PM
Nov 2017

this sort of thing is common in the south...nuthin' to worry 'bout. And after all, he was a up-and-comer, a good catch. These folks would be proud to have their daughter with this guy.

So, my take is...
A large portion of RW'ers think it's cool to pimp your daughter out.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. How can one person give permission for another person,
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:27 PM
Nov 2017

when it comes to sexual behavior? I don't get that.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
9. Didnt he encounter the 14 year Old at a custody hearing?
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:28 PM
Nov 2017

Offered to sit with her or take her outside? Not sure of details but it was something to the effect that she didn’t need to witness the hearing so he would keep an eye out on her.

In any case, it sure suggests that not having a father figure might make some young girls vulnerable. Maybe that was part of his method. Find young women who were easy to target and manipulate. And then disarm the mother by appearing caring and empathetic. What a creep who would do that. Has the mother been interviewed for her recollections of this encounter?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. That's classic pedophile behavior
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:38 PM
Nov 2017

One of the characteristics is getting involved with single women with children that are the age he feels attracted to.

THE SINGLE PARENT
Many times pedophiles will develop a close relationship with a single parent in order to get close to their children. Once inside the home, they have many opportunities to manipulate the children -- using guilt, fear, and love to confuse the child. If the child's parent works, it offers the pedophile the private time needed to abuse the child.

https://www.thoughtco.com/profile-of-pedophile-and-common-characteristics-973203

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. According to the story the girl's mother was going to a custody hearing
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:30 PM
Nov 2017

And Roy Moore offered to sit with the daughter while the mother was in court.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
11. Oh he was just speaking to the situation. Making up something that would counter her.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:34 PM
Nov 2017

He said mothers because it was her mother that supported her accusation. He's lying lying lying lying lying.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
15. scum like that prey on young people from broken homes, insecure or both
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 05:12 PM
Nov 2017

and yes, any father would kick his ass.
Men understand that kind of scum better.
A woman would think, he is a judge, he must be decent.
Also I bet he never asked the 14 yr old's mother, he picked her up around the corner from her house & took her to his house


aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
16. I think its related to the still existing legality of parental permission to marry
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 05:16 PM
Nov 2017

I couldn't find the numbers of how often it happens, but a lot of states have legal mechanisms of letting minors get married with parental permission.

I wouldn't be surprised if this happens more in red states compared to blue, but I think it happens almost everywhere.
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