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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 11:22 AM Nov 2017

Wonkette: Go F**k Yourself, Glenn Greenwald

Gather ’round the campfire, everyone, for Glenn Greenwald has a Very Serious Question:



Oh and he’s mad about the Deep State, because of course he is. Greenwald spends a lot of his column beating a straw man to death, claiming that all the sane people who HAAAAAATE Trump, many of them conservatives who worked tirelessly to keep him from getting elected, and who have been in “COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY, MOTHERFUCKERS” mode since Greenwald’s pals at WikiLeaks and the Russians he is SO IN LOVE WITH (he would deny that accusation, but ya know, actions speak louder than words, and also fuck him) helped Trump get elected, think Greenwald and his weirdo friends are dumb for believing there is a “Deep State.” This is a false construct. We very much know there is a Deep State, and we know it makes Greenwald and Sean Hannity shit the bed, so we make fun of them about it.

But he’s really really confused about which is worse: that Trump is in office and beating the shit out of American institutions and the Constitution, or that the so-called Deep State (normal people refer to them as “career public servants”) is trying its damnedest to protect the Republic from Trump’s damage. The horrors! It reminds us of that thing Anthony Scaramucci whined during his 120-some-odd-hour tenure as White House Communications Director, about how there are some White House staffers who “think it is their job to save America from this president.” It’s almost as if there is a wide consensus among thinking Americans that the traditions we hold dear are in danger, and that we should do something about it. (Also, to all those people, thank you!)

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Don’t get us wrong — we don’t think it’s ideal that generals are in all these positions, or that #DeepState patriots are doing what they’re doing, and during ANY other presidency, we’d probably be appalled. But to use Greenwald’s construction, what president has done more to abuse power and subvert American institutions in his first six months of office than Donald Trump?

Anyway, this is very stupid, and what we’ve come to expect from Greenwald, who also is PRETTY SURE the Trump-Russia story is a buncha lies. As soon as he finds the time, we’re sure his Intercept website will publish a journalism exclusive claiming to have found the 400-pound New Jersey dude Trump always claims REALLY hacked the 2016 election, and we will have to tell him to go fuck himself all over again.


Read more at https://wonkette.com/621347/oh-go-fuck-yourself-glenn-greenwald#spxixvrifzdH4ltW.99
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Wonkette: Go F**k Yourself, Glenn Greenwald (Original Post) ehrnst Nov 2017 OP
K & R. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #1
Wonkette has become required reading, as far as I'm concerned. Great site. (nt) Paladin Nov 2017 #2
Yes! They got a great way with words. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #3
Since the Colbert Report is gone, Wonkette and Samantha Bee ehrnst Nov 2017 #4
Yes, love Samantha Bee. Wonkette not so much.No accounting for taste onit2day Nov 2017 #13
I find them to be rather similar. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #25
I heart Wonkette! Borchkins Nov 2017 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #6
GG does right wing media's bidding. floWteiuQ Nov 2017 #7
Why post this Shit,,,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2017 #8
Not understanding how this gives him exposure. ehrnst Nov 2017 #11
Greenwald is a liar and can not be considered to be a journalist Gothmog Nov 2017 #9
Nonsense. Has a very pointed and intelligent perspective worth reading. onit2day Nov 2017 #15
Welcome to DU,,,,,Comrade! Cryptoad Nov 2017 #16
:D xor Nov 2017 #30
I stopped paying attention to Greenwald along time ago Gothmog Nov 2017 #23
Pointed and intelligent do not neccessarily make make one informed or ehrnst Nov 2017 #24
But GG attacks the D party all the time, so there is that...I mean isnt that Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #35
Come on! Russia attacks the Democratic Party because we are THE Hortensis Nov 2017 #33
Greenwald? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #34
Greenwald and the Putincept need to be treated as what they are: Maven Nov 2017 #10
Yup ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #12
Hey, GG orangecrush Nov 2017 #14
Wonkette makes a lot of assumptions to support her anger and hatred of GG onit2day Nov 2017 #17
Wonkette is not a person, it's a site. That article was written by a man named Evan PeaceNikki Nov 2017 #22
Wrong on all counts. Now, what were you saying about "assumptions"? n/t Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2017 #31
Perhaps reading the thing you rant about before ranting ehrnst Nov 2017 #32
I see you wrote something then deleted it, let me guess, it was Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #36
Heh Heh KelleyKramer Nov 2017 #38
No melman Nov 2017 #43
Maybe someone should write to Evan and ask him why HE is angry. lapucelle Nov 2017 #39
Love Wonkette. brer cat Nov 2017 #18
Is he wearing a tie with a polo shirt?? Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #19
Had to give up on PDittie Nov 2017 #20
All that screaming at assholes like greenwald, that bothers you? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #37
Russian sellout uponit7771 Nov 2017 #21
I noted this "shift" in Greenwald's approach back in Jan: joshcryer Nov 2017 #26
Yep. Dead on. ehrnst Nov 2017 #29
Wonkette speaks for me! mcar Nov 2017 #27
K&R! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #40
Does GG have any fans left here at DU? Or did they all wisely depart for JPR? Hekate Nov 2017 #41
K&R betsuni Nov 2017 #42

Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
8. Why post this Shit,,,,,,
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:59 PM
Nov 2017

plays into Glenn's play,,,,,, he wants exposure , good or bad makes no different to him. what an ass.......geez

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. Not understanding how this gives him exposure.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 01:23 PM
Nov 2017

No one needs to click on the links to his statements....

Gothmog

(145,481 posts)
23. I stopped paying attention to Greenwald along time ago
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 03:16 PM
Nov 2017

Greenwald is a troll and is not reliable. Greenwald is tied to Putin and I have come to doubt his honesty and doubt that he is a professional.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. Pointed and intelligent do not neccessarily make make one informed or
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:15 PM
Nov 2017

a good journalist.

One might say those things about Assange or Ted Kaczynski.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
35. But GG attacks the D party all the time, so there is that...I mean isnt that
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:14 PM
Nov 2017

why some folks love him so much?


Personally, I dont want anyone on DU who supports someone who attacks dems.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Come on! Russia attacks the Democratic Party because we are THE
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 07:32 PM
Nov 2017

existential American threat to their ambitions, and that works for anti-Democrat radicals like Greenwald. The "enemy of my enemy" thing. That's your "intelligent" perspective.

America's new kleptocratic class has to destroy the Democratic Party that started and intends to continue to put a leash on them, and that also works for anti-Democrat radicals. Again that morally bankrupt "enemy of my enemy" thing.

The totally corrupted GOP attacks the Democratic Party to serve their new rulers, and that works for anti-Democrat radicals. There's that "intelligent" "enemy of my enemy" perspective again!

Despicable, for sure, but political psychologists say that's how they're wired. Greenwald's not going to change and suddenly care that economic and religious archconservatives on the right are America's big threat.

One reason for that is that the more radical, even extremist, these people get, the more like their counterparts on the far right they are--lots of personality similarities. Notably, they both especially see the dominant left party as their big enemy.

That "intelligent perspective."

Maven

(10,533 posts)
10. Greenwald and the Putincept need to be treated as what they are:
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

Tools of the Russian disinformation war against the American public.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
17. Wonkette makes a lot of assumptions to support her anger and hatred of GG
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 02:04 PM
Nov 2017

Wonder what set her off. Her comments should be directed at GG for answers and explanations. Seems her GG IS a strawman.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
22. Wonkette is not a person, it's a site. That article was written by a man named Evan
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 02:52 PM
Nov 2017

So, speaking of assumptions....

Response to onit2day (Reply #17)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
32. Perhaps reading the thing you rant about before ranting
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 06:41 PM
Nov 2017

would be helpful to the credibility of your rant.

Your own "assumptions" are showing. Whatever happened to "principles before personalities or labels?"

I suppose that only applies to everyone else's posts - especially if you are going to talk about "what set a woman off."

If you are going to make a sexist crack, you should at least make it about an actual woman.



Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
36. I see you wrote something then deleted it, let me guess, it was
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:16 PM
Nov 2017

something supporting the Democratic party

I know, I know, have to be careful when you do that around here

lapucelle

(18,303 posts)
39. Maybe someone should write to Evan and ask him why HE is angry.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 09:40 PM
Nov 2017

Perhaps comments concerning Evan's propensity to be "set off" and respond with cogent analysis should be directed at Evan for answers and explanations.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
37. All that screaming at assholes like greenwald, that bothers you?
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:17 PM
Nov 2017

There isnt enough SCREAMING at no good filth like GG or Assange.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
26. I noted this "shift" in Greenwald's approach back in Jan:
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:43 PM
Nov 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028469572

It's by design when you are a very single policy issued focused propagandist. There's really only one way to defend Trump and it's to blame the "deep state" for everything.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
40. K&R!
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 12:29 AM
Nov 2017

Thanks for posting. I need to read Wonkette more often. So hard to keep up with all I should read, though!

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
41. Does GG have any fans left here at DU? Or did they all wisely depart for JPR?
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 03:07 AM
Nov 2017

IMO, he was always an *hole, getting his "scoop" and leaving his informants exiled or in prison.

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