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malaise

(269,150 posts)
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 03:57 PM Nov 2017

How is someone expelled from a state branch for violating the law (twice)

allowed to run for federal office. That makes no fucking sense.

Likewise how does the Con have so many 'settlements' with persons he robbed and still become President.

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How is someone expelled from a state branch for violating the law (twice) (Original Post) malaise Nov 2017 OP
Foolish Mortals - the laws of man do not apply to Conservatoids el_bryanto Nov 2017 #1
Sure looks that way malaise Nov 2017 #2
there are very few limits on who can run for office onenote Nov 2017 #3
Yup zipplewrath Nov 2017 #5
Yeah, lots of countries charge opponents for made up crimes... joshcryer Nov 2017 #7
Because this country is now that fucking stupid Cosmocat Nov 2017 #4
Article 1-Section 3: brooklynite Nov 2017 #6
Good - Seat the pedo malaise Nov 2017 #8
That's the standard for running. onenote Nov 2017 #9
because that test bluestarone Nov 2017 #10
Bear in mind something similar on our side Jim Lane Nov 2017 #11
Seems wrong to me malaise Nov 2017 #12
It's small-d democracy. Let the voters choose. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #13
I understand all that my question is how does someone who violates Federal law malaise Nov 2017 #14

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. Foolish Mortals - the laws of man do not apply to Conservatoids
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 03:59 PM
Nov 2017

Once we hid ourselves in the frail guise of humanity, but day by day we are getting closer to the time when we can reveal ourselves in our true majesty. Humanity is dooomed!

Bryant

onenote

(42,737 posts)
3. there are very few limits on who can run for office
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:12 PM
Nov 2017

And, to be honest, I have no problem with that. The potential for abuse is too great.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Yup
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:32 PM
Nov 2017

It's a bit like voting. Once you start to divide the population up into various "classes" of citizens, you are ripe for abuse. It's why I support giving felons their voting rights back once they have completed their entire sentences. I'm a bit uncomfortable with the age limits on senators and presidents, although after Trump, I'm in no real hurry to see just how stupid a president we can elect.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
7. Yeah, lots of countries charge opponents for made up crimes...
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:55 PM
Nov 2017

...to prevent them from running. While this is not too common in the US, it does happen even here on the local level.

brooklynite

(94,683 posts)
6. Article 1-Section 3:
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:37 PM
Nov 2017
"No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen."


That's it.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
9. That's the standard for running.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 05:53 PM
Nov 2017

The Senate can refuse to seat someone who, by a majority vote, is determined not to meet the constitutional qualifications.

However, the constitution also allows the Senate, by a 2/3 vote, to expel a member for basically anything.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. Bear in mind something similar on our side
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 07:31 PM
Nov 2017
Alcee Hastings was appointed by President Jimmy Carter as a U.S. district judge for the Southern District of Florida. It's normally a lifetime appointment, but Hastings, after allegations of bribery and perjury, became only the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. (The impeachment vote in the House was 413-3; in the Senate, the vote to convict and remove him was 69-26.)

That's not exactly sexual assault, but in its own way it's pretty serious. Nevertheless, in 1992 he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives (as a Democrat!) and remains a member to this day.
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
13. It's small-d democracy. Let the voters choose.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:09 PM
Nov 2017

Alabama voters get to decide whether they believe Moore's accusers and, if so, how much weight to attach to his conduct. (Some will say it was long ago or just a "youthful indiscretion" or whatever.) As for his being bounced from the state Supreme Court, it was for defying the law in support of the display of the Ten Commandments and then in opposition to marriage equality. I'm sure that, for many voters, those instances of gross judicial misconduct are actually points in his favor.

You can ask yourself what you would have done if you lived in Hastings's Congressional district in 1992. It's easy to say "I'll vote for the respectable Democrat, Lois Frankel, in the primary." What do you do in the general, though? I confess that I probably would have held my nose and voted for Hastings. Even if his Republican opponent was a model of integrity, the odds are that he or she was a conservative model of integrity, and would cast vote after vote after vote against what I believed. In light of that -- would you lend me a clothespin?

malaise

(269,150 posts)
14. I understand all that my question is how does someone who violates Federal law
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:28 PM
Nov 2017

run for a Federal position - I get the small-d-democracy

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