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Ezior

(505 posts)
3. I guess "A few Dems move to small red states to turn them blue and get some Dem Senators"
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:39 AM
Nov 2017

Liberals in the US are f***** if they all live in the same 15-24 states and never win a majority in the Senate.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. Time for a cultural revolution. Bring the enlightenment to America and end this dark age.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:42 AM
Nov 2017

Educate instead of propagandizing.

4. Let's see, one of the most fundamental elements of the federal structure . . .
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:40 AM
Nov 2017

. . . of the national government -- a i.e., a bicameral legislature, with the representation in one of the chambers being equal across each of the several states -- is "the core threat" to our democracy?

Um, okay.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. You need to read the point made. Unequal representation is what they are talking about.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:44 AM
Nov 2017

You seem to be trying to change that to its opposite, equal representation. That's a lot like lying.

10. With respect . . .
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:58 AM
Nov 2017

. . . you need to try harder to understand the point I am making, which is that any "unequal representation" at issue here is a consequence of the fact that, under the constitutional structure of the national government itself, one congressional chamber, the Senate, was specifically intended not to provide "equal" representation of the people as a whole. Rather, that each state is allotted two Senators, regardless of the states' respective population, was, from the beginning of the Republic, considered a feature and not a bug of the constitutional system.

That being the case, that someone would consider this state of affairs to constitute the "core threat" to our democracy struck me as particularly ironic. I'm sorry you didn't understand that, but accusing someone of lying, based on your own confusion (or ignorance), isn't very nice.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
6. So let me get this right
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:42 AM
Nov 2017

Those of us who live in a rural state are now the problem?

I think thou paint with too broad a brush.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. No, you got it wrong too. Having a minority control the government is undemocratic.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:49 AM
Nov 2017

You've conflated living in a rural area with the problem of disproportionate representation.

The problem could fade away if those rural areas become majority liberal, a transition which could very well happen.

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