First hand Roy Moore dirt

[Stuckinthebush]

Well, second hand actually as it was told to me from a Republican friend who grew up in Gadsden during the 70s and early 80s.

I live in the Ham (Birmingham) and have a good friend who Is a Gadsden native. When asked, " So, tell me about Roy." She laughed and said the following:

"Oh, yeah! I worked at the mall and we all knew him as the creepy guy who you avoided at all costs. I also worked out at the YMCA and he did indeed work out with no shirt. We used to call him Sweet Cheeks because he would always fart while exercising. He was always a weirdo. "

Again - die hard Repuplican who will not be voting for the weirdo she knew from Gadsden.

On another note, my wife and I drove through Gadsden this past week on a trip to Virginia. We were stunned. Not one damn Roy Moore sign was seen.

I'm hopeful.

[Persondem]

1. Good stuff. I am hopeful as well. K & R nt

[Ilsa]

2. Surely these people are conscientious

about what everyone else will think if they approve the pervert.

Funny anecdote!

[rainin]

3. Please please please let this be

prophetic.

[FailureToCommunicate]

4. First or second hand...it's good dirt.

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. Have you seen Doug or Roy's signs anywhere else in the state?

I ask because no one in our town is putting out signs, to speak of. Even the people on my street who I know are repub. no longer put out signs, nor the Dems on the block, and in the town. That goes back to Obama's 2nd Pres. race.
Might see a few outside of town proper, but just a few.

[Stuckinthebush]

6. Oh yeah

Lots and lots and lots of Doug Jones signs in Homewood, Mountain Brook, Hoover, Vestavia - over the mountain in Birmingham.

No....and I mean none....Roy Moore signs.

Of course as you know this is a blue island in the state. I am most concerned about the rest of the state.

[dixiegrrrrl]

17. Steve Bannon will be stumping with Moore, in Fairhope, Dec. 5

Fairhope???? I always thought of it as kinda lefty, but admittedly have not been down that way for years.

Bannon, just to make sure the KKK/Nazi message is not overlooked.

Sheesh.

[Dragonfly64]

24. As a Fairhope resident

I can say that since the republican run-off I have seen only one Roy Moore sign (it has since been taken down). The number of Doug Jones signs I see continues to increase every day. My concern is the number of people who deny publicly that they will vote for Moore but will do it on election day - primarily because of Doug Jones' pro-choice stance.

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. Given the distribution curve of Republicans

from far right to moderate ( sane) I think some will stay home and if asked, SAY they voted for Moore.

[eppur_se_muova]

23. I've been seeing occasional Doug Jones signs lately (Huntsville/Madison), no Moore signs. nt

[TeamPooka]

7. We need to manage our expectations. It's ALABAMA. Of course they are going to elect the pedophile.

He's a Republican.
Alabama is unable to live up to our hopes and ideals.
Because it's Alabama.
Scorpion and the frog, people.

[Stuckinthebush]

8. As an Alabamian

I understand completely but do realize that there are a number of highly educated republicans who won't be able to make that mark for Moore. Remember that Alabama isn't all back water holes. The I-65 corridor connects our largest cities. Huntsville is highly educated and full of thoughtful people. Birmingham has the highest concentration of Dems and educated Republicans. Turnout should be high here for Jones. Montgomery.....meh. Mobile is a strong Republican stronghold but has a number of thoughtful republicans. I hope they don't turn out or do and vote Jones or write in.


There is hope.

[Sam McGee]

11. Never happen

All those highly-educated folks along I-65 will not outnumber the goobers in Oxford, Anniston, Piedmont, Sand Mountain, Ozark, Grove Hill, Linden, Prattville, Decatur, Jasper . . .

[Stuckinthebush]

12. Gotta try

I'm not giving up without a fight.

[TeamPooka]

16. Im all for the fight and going down swinging

You never know

[bluestarone]

14. MAYBE IF

they split the repubs vote??

[FakeNoose]

13. There is hope if enough people stay home

SOME Republicans will not be able to make themselves vote for Moore, but that doesn't mean they'll vote for Jones either. Those who aren't for Moore please just stay home. That way the people who are really commited to Jones and voting for him - their vote will mean something.

Please, just this once.

[misanthrope]

20. As another Alabamian

I can say some of what you say is true. However all those "thoughtful Republicans" in Mobile weren't enough to stop Mobile and Baldwin counties from going for Roy Moore over Luther Strange in the GOP runoff. The only counties that opted to block Moore from the nomination were the Huntsville and Birmingham counties.

Will people who wouldn't vote for another Republican somehow vote for a Democrat on Dec. 12? Unlikely.

[Sam McGee]

9. Anyone who thinks Moore will lose needs to understand something

Anyone who thinks Alabamans will not elect Roy Moore needs to go back to the George Wallace days.

In 1958, Wallace ran in the Democratic primary for governor. Since the 1901 constitution's effective disfranchisement of the state's blacks, and most poor whites as well, the Democratic Party had been virtually the only party in Alabama. For all intents and purposes, the Democratic primary was the real contest at the state level. This was a political crossroads for Wallace. State Representative Wallace's main opponent was state attorney general John Patterson, who ran with the support of the Ku Klux Klan, an organization Wallace had spoken against. Wallace was endorsed by the NAACP. Wallace lost the nomination by over 34,400 votes.

After the election, aide Seymore Trammell recalled Wallace saying, "Seymore, you know why I lost that governor's race? ... I was outn*****ed by John Patterson. And I'll tell you here and now, I will never be outn*****ed again."

In the wake of his defeat, Wallace adopted a hard-line segregationist stance and used this stand to court the white vote in the next gubernatorial election in 1962. When a supporter asked why he started using racist messages, Wallace replied, "You know, I tried to talk about good roads and good schools and all these things that have been part of my career, and nobody listened. And then I began talking about n*****s, and they stomped the floor."

And that, folks, is how things are in the South TO THIS VERY DAY. Of course, it's no longer polite to talk openly about the n*****s, so, politicians talk about liberals, illegal aliens, political correctness, the Washington Post, Hollywood, people on welfare, and other code words.

Before any of you folks from Alabama complain, you need to know I was born and reared in Wilkinson County, Mississippi, lived much of my life in the Mississippi Delta, graduated from Jacksonville State, am the descendant of slave owners and Confederate soldiers.

[Stuckinthebush]

10. You are correct

But there is more of a possibility than I've seen in a long time. We are working to GOTV and stumping for Jones here in Birmingham. We can't give up.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

15. As we say in the South...

bless your heart! (native TN for me, now KY)

Seriously, thanks for the hard work you're doing with GOTV, and we're all rooting for you. It's important to all of us, and we're contributing as we are able.

.............

[flamingdem]

19. +1 and

thanks!

[uponit7771]

18. +1

[misanthrope]

21. I live in Alabama and couldn't agree more.

**

[SunSeeker]

22. Trump is following Wallace's example. Did they ever meet? nt

[Motley13]

26. map of 2016 election results

I have lived in Florida for many decades, but was born in B'ham, so I try to keep up with their progress

the map is interesting & I believe there is hope.
Doug Jones is an intelligent 1st class candidate.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama

VOTE

[Turn CO Blue]

27. "he would always fart while exercising." So he is a "Creepy Old Fart" on two levels of meaning. n/t