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Initech

(100,076 posts)
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:54 PM Nov 2017

Here's The Thing About Roy Moore That They're Not Telling You

And what we need to get. The real prize that is at stake. It's not taxes. Roy Moore's base couldn't give a flying fuck about the tax plan.

What this fight is really about is the one branch of government that the fundamentalist Christians don't have compete control over: the judicial branch. There are tons of seats that will be opening all across the country that where the fundamentalist Christians would love to replace those icky activist judges.

And their puppet, Roy Moore, will vote to confirm every single last one of them. That's why the Christian right and Trump are supporting this monster. That's why they will stab this country in the back.

The Christian right is fueled by hatred. Even more so in the wake of SCOTUS overturning the gay marriage laws. We can't underestimate these fuckers - they are dangerous and they have an agenda. And when they win, we all lose. We have to do whatever it takes to elect Jones.

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Here's The Thing About Roy Moore That They're Not Telling You (Original Post) Initech Nov 2017 OP
I think you're right. lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #1
He is the American Taliban. kairos12 Nov 2017 #2
Yep. TomSlick Nov 2017 #3
How sad RainCaster Nov 2017 #5
True. TomSlick Nov 2017 #13
Very insightful flamingdem Nov 2017 #4
It seems that throughout history... Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #6
I Call Them The Klan SeaDoo77 Nov 2017 #7
Sad but true Achilleaze Nov 2017 #8
Trump Is Rapidly Reshaping the Judiciary. Heres How Kilgore Nov 2017 #9
+1 dalton99a Nov 2017 #11
Since we don't have any power to stop them...they can do that with or without Moore...our only shot Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #10
You are 100% correct. Same reason #45 is still in office. VOX Nov 2017 #12
Did you see that movie Jesus Camp? Initech Nov 2017 #15
Sadly, you are absolutely correct bdjhawk Nov 2017 #14

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
3. Yep.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:06 AM
Nov 2017

The only important issue for a lot of people in Alabama (here in Arkansas too) is abortion. They would vote for a serial ax murderer if he promised to vote to confirm anti-abortion justices and judges.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
13. True.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:28 AM
Nov 2017

I think Christians ought to say about abortion no more than is said in scriptures - nothing.

I have tried and failed to have my anti-abortion brothers and sisters explain to me their belief that scripture forbid abortion. Their argument requires too many and too long logical leaps.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
6. It seems that throughout history...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:06 AM
Nov 2017

the Christian right is always half an eyelash away from utter barbarism. In this case, they are hellbent on destroying the US Constitution and causing racial and gender-based suffering to boot. And that half eyelash is about all there is between now and christo-fascism.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
9. Trump Is Rapidly Reshaping the Judiciary. Heres How
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:55 AM
Nov 2017

WASHINGTON — In the weeks before Donald J. Trump took office, lawyers joining his administration gathered at a law firm near the Capitol, where Donald F. McGahn II, the soon-to-be White House counsel, filled a white board with a secret battle plan to fill the federal appeals courts with young and deeply conservative judges.

Mr. McGahn, instructed by Mr. Trump to maximize the opportunity to reshape the judiciary, mapped out potential nominees and a strategy, according to two people familiar with the effort: Start by filling vacancies on appeals courts with multiple openings and where Democratic senators up for re-election next year in states won by Mr. Trump — like Indiana, Michigan and Pennsylvania — could be pressured not to block his nominees. And to speed them through confirmation, avoid clogging the Senate with too many nominees for the district courts, where legal philosophy is less crucial.

Nearly a year later, that plan is coming to fruition. Mr. Trump has already appointed eight appellate judges, the most this early in a presidency since Richard M. Nixon, and on Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted along party lines to send a ninth appellate nominee — Mr. Trump’s deputy White House counsel, Gregory Katsas — to the floor.

Republicans are systematically filling appellate seats they held open during President Barack Obama’s final two years in office with a particularly conservative group of judges with life tenure. Democrats — who in late 2013 abolished the ability of 41 lawmakers to block such nominees with a filibuster, then quickly lost control of the Senate — have scant power to stop them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/us/politics/trump-judiciary-appeals-courts-conservatives.html

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
10. Since we don't have any power to stop them...they can do that with or without Moore...our only shot
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:55 AM
Nov 2017

it to take back the Senate in 18...

VOX

(22,976 posts)
12. You are 100% correct. Same reason #45 is still in office.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:44 PM
Nov 2017

Party before country. They are deluded in their application of the Machiavellian “end justifies the means.”

Initech

(100,076 posts)
15. Did you see that movie Jesus Camp?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:40 AM
Nov 2017

There was a scene where they were literally praying for "activist judges" to be replaced. Now they actually have a chance to do that, and it's going to be scary. Expect the GOP to go full 3rd Reich when they do.

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
14. Sadly, you are absolutely correct
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:38 AM
Nov 2017

And how do we stop this awful trend? I understand with the Gross Old Pervert party there is nothing we can do right now legislatively, but my question is more how to change the blind following of hateful, perverse twisting of Christianity?

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