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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:30 AM Nov 2017

Anyone catch Rachel tonight? Trump demanding Mueller investigation to end by Jan 1, 2018

She said he wants a full exoneration, to prepare for the midterms, by then or else he'd 'blow a gasket.' She showed a WP piece. So we can expect Mueller to be fired early in the New Year. What then?

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Anyone catch Rachel tonight? Trump demanding Mueller investigation to end by Jan 1, 2018 (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Nov 2017 OP
Mueller will call his bluff. If he even tries that he's summoning his own impeachment. brush Nov 2017 #1
LOL Ryan and McConnell are Russian co-conspirators NewsCenter28 Nov 2017 #4
When Trump is indicted with Russian mobsters will the GOP still refuse to impeach him? pnwmom Nov 2017 #9
They'll have to do it if trump fires Mueller. More indictments of people very close to trump and... brush Nov 2017 #11
The GOP is about to elect a child molester in Alabama NewsCenter28 Nov 2017 #13
If you don't think electing pedophile Moore is the death kneel for the repugs you just don't get it. brush Nov 2017 #15
Access Hollywood should have ended Trump NewsCenter28 Nov 2017 #18
Even repugs are saying that if Moore is elected the repug party is dead. I want Jones to win but... brush Nov 2017 #21
I like our 2018 odds NewsCenter28 Nov 2017 #22
Mueller has already helped us. brush Nov 2017 #25
rethuglican hyperbole... it's the electoral power that matters... Raster Nov 2017 #43
We are already several paces ahead of that. VOX Nov 2017 #20
Their child molester/pus_y grabber image won't play in 2018. Sorry to disappoint you. brush Nov 2017 #23
Disappoint ME? Come on, now. VOX Nov 2017 #32
I doubt you've been a Dem longer than me. Also, I don't believe the repugs are all-powerful brush Nov 2017 #34
I registered as a Democrat in April 1970. VOX Nov 2017 #37
I never trust a repug to have anything but greed. You yourself seem to thing they control everything brush Nov 2017 #31
Hell yes Ill be there. Just like I was in 1968. VOX Nov 2017 #36
I think one can overestimate the memory of Americans. WinkyDink Nov 2017 #24
Remember, trump's base that he's been playing to is only a third of the country. brush Nov 2017 #26
Actually dodart's base is less than 1/3 of the country Thekaspervote Nov 2017 #42
Good points. brush Nov 2017 #45
I think 2018 is certainly going to be a terrible year for the GOP Kentonio Nov 2017 #44
Last week one of the news stations had a group of GOP women from Al. CrispyQ Nov 2017 #46
I wish that were true. But Republicans will never go there. VOX Nov 2017 #16
There will be additional indictments and things will spiral out of repug control. brush Nov 2017 #17
Trump is not the head of the serpent. VOX Nov 2017 #27
The tax cut scam is not a done deal, just as the ACA repeal was not a done deal. brush Nov 2017 #29
Didnt say it was a done deal. Its the IDEA of such an odious giveaway to the wealthy. VOX Nov 2017 #38
Trump was DIRECTED, via a direct tweet from a Russian Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #33
Absolutely. That Siberian Candidate is an affront to anything decent. VOX Nov 2017 #39
I have some ideas for stocking stuffers to put under the Christmas tree. TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #2
I stopped expecting when we gave birth to the most ... pbmus Nov 2017 #3
oh? so dweller Nov 2017 #5
Who on earth ever expected to learn a human can be this filthy? The WORST human ever born Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #6
go ahead and blow a gasket.... dhill926 Nov 2017 #7
I think he'll fire Mueller with impunity NewsCenter28 Nov 2017 #8
How many people will DT have to fire to get to Mueller? He can't directly fire Mueller. pnwmom Nov 2017 #10
He can do it by executive order NewsCenter28 Nov 2017 #14
I tend this week to agree with your view. pangaia Nov 2017 #19
BFD- Rachel knows not to take 45 seriously RainCaster Nov 2017 #12
NY AG Eric Schneiderman will just pick up where Mueller left off. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #28
Trump is going to be disappointed or pissed Gothmog Nov 2017 #30
Apparently, McTurtle has given the Bleached Blowfish the judges he needs, now. Hugin Nov 2017 #35
he blew a gasket decades ago Skittles Nov 2017 #40
My gut instinct tells me that blue-wave Nov 2017 #41
Numb nuts (NN) doesnt decide when it ends YessirAtsaFact Nov 2017 #47

brush

(53,778 posts)
1. Mueller will call his bluff. If he even tries that he's summoning his own impeachment.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:35 AM
Nov 2017

Expect some new indictments before then from Mueller to let trump know he's not running the investigation.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
4. LOL Ryan and McConnell are Russian co-conspirators
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:38 AM
Nov 2017

Not directed at you but no way in hell will Ryan and McConnell ever impeach Trump or even mouth verbal criticism.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
9. When Trump is indicted with Russian mobsters will the GOP still refuse to impeach him?
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:45 AM
Nov 2017

There's nothing to stop the NY A.G. from indicting him, according to the Harvard Con Law prof, Laurence Tribe. And NY is the nexus of his money-laundering and other mob-related crimes.

brush

(53,778 posts)
11. They'll have to do it if trump fires Mueller. More indictments of people very close to trump and...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:48 AM
Nov 2017

media/public pressure will cause trump to resign or suffer impeachment — just as it happened with Nixon.

trump is not getting out this as if he is a dictator demanding the investigation to end.

That's not gonna happen, too many smoking Russian guns pointing right at trump and family.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
13. The GOP is about to elect a child molester in Alabama
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:50 AM
Nov 2017

They and their voters care nothing about the rule of law. Only power and subjugating us.

brush

(53,778 posts)
15. If you don't think electing pedophile Moore is the death kneel for the repugs you just don't get it.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:54 AM
Nov 2017

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
18. Access Hollywood should have ended Trump
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:58 AM
Nov 2017

But it didn't. Moore should have had to end his campaign but Bannon is rushing to his side to campaign for him next week. 90% of the GOP will always come home to support their guy. Bet you they'd even vote for Jeffrey Dahmer if he had an (R). They are that sick!

Sorry, I'm just really pissed off tonight!

brush

(53,778 posts)
21. Even repugs are saying that if Moore is elected the repug party is dead. I want Jones to win but...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:04 AM
Nov 2017

if the repugs are not able to talk Moore out of running that party is dead.

The party of child molesters and pu_ _ y grabbers is not going to play well in 2018.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
43. rethuglican hyperbole... it's the electoral power that matters...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 06:29 AM
Nov 2017

...and to keep that electoral power, the rethuglicans would do just about anything...

I hear the Koch* brothers are ponying up for a kiddie pool out on the Mall.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
20. We are already several paces ahead of that.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:03 AM
Nov 2017

You’re trusting the GOP to have a conscience. They DO NOT have any. Their president is a serial molester. Didn’t slow down the Republicans. Hasn’t slowed them. Won’t slow them. They are enabling this absolute shit show to proceed ever onward.

Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Hannity, all the usual suspects— they are defending Moore. He’s being portrayed as the VICTIM in this mess. Haven’t you heard? They are screwing with REALITY. Trump’s now saying that his “pussy-grabbing” video was faked.

The old days are gone. What Republicans say is the truth, ISN’T.

brush

(53,778 posts)
23. Their child molester/pus_y grabber image won't play in 2018. Sorry to disappoint you.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:10 AM
Nov 2017

Remember, trump's base that he's been playing to is only a third of the country.

2018 is gonna be a disaster for the repugs as the election pendulum swings back from the extreme right.

Backlashes to the party in power, especially in mid-terms has happened time and time again in American political history.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
32. Disappoint ME? Come on, now.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:31 AM
Nov 2017

Last edited Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:10 AM - Edit history (1)

I’ve been a loyal Democrat my entire voting life, which I’ll wager is much longer than you have. (Hint: I couldn’t vote until I was 21.) I’ve also been with DU since 2003.

I wish I could share your rosy point of view. Yes, Trump’s base may be a third of the country, but do you honestly think any state in the Deep South or the Midwest is going to vote all Democratic?

The reasons they’re winning with lower numbers: 1) Russian interference; 2) Huge corporate and individual donors (or “free speech” as Citizens United framed it); 3) Gerrymandering. In many states (North Carolina and Texas are the best examples), more Democrats vote than Republicans, but gerrymandering neutralizes it.

I’m not saying a Democrat won’t win the presidency in 2020. And they may take the Senate in 2018. But the House (again, by virtue of gerrymandering) will retain its Republican control. Bet on it.

brush

(53,778 posts)
34. I doubt you've been a Dem longer than me. Also, I don't believe the repugs are all-powerful
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:37 AM
Nov 2017

We just saw what happened in Virginia and New Jersey.

Mid-terms often see power shifts from the party in power, not unusual at all.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
37. I registered as a Democrat in April 1970.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:58 AM
Nov 2017

And in all that time, there have been only 3 Democratic presidents, as opposed to 6 Republicans. It ain’t easy being a Democrat.

brush

(53,778 posts)
31. I never trust a repug to have anything but greed. You yourself seem to thing they control everything
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:31 AM
Nov 2017

and have no vulnerability. Not so.

If trump fires Mueller that will be a huge, public uproar with people in the streets protesting — including me.

If you think the women's march in January was big you ain't seen nothing yet.

Will you be there?

trump and his only one third of the country base won't get away with it.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
36. Hell yes Ill be there. Just like I was in 1968.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:53 AM
Nov 2017

I got arrested with several other students by LAPD during a campus protest.

Republicans don’t control everything, but they’ve got: 1) The Supreme Court for several years, at least. And Trump’s filling lifetime lower judicial appointments like a one-armed paperhanger. They will interpret the law of the land, and it’s doubtful they’ll ever break for the little guy. 2) Endless money from the fattest donors who are buying a blind eye to federal regulations. FAR more than Democrats ever have in their war chest. 3) Fundraising and campaigning at state levels. No fewer than 32 states have Republican-controlled legislatures (compared to 13 for Democrats; 5 are split). It’s a lot easier to win a state in a general election when your machinery is already in place. 4) Fair elections— Republicans have already shown their colors (very white) in this matter. They make it tough on Democratic voters, with IDs, etc. Also, the extent of Russian interference is still unknown, and no safeguards have been established or put in place.

Not saying at all that Democrats can’t win, but it will require super-human effort to vault over the obstacles, which I am willing to do, with everything I have.

Peace

brush

(53,778 posts)
26. Remember, trump's base that he's been playing to is only a third of the country.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:14 AM
Nov 2017

2018 is gonna be a disaster for the repugs as the election pendulum swings back from the extreme right.

Backlashes to the party in power, especially in mid-terms has happened time and time again in American political history.

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
42. Actually dodart's base is less than 1/3 of the country
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:37 AM
Nov 2017

He only truly has 1/3 of the republican party which wapo and other pollsters say leaves his true base more like 20-24 percent

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
44. I think 2018 is certainly going to be a terrible year for the GOP
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:40 AM
Nov 2017

But I don't think Roy Moore would make much difference to it either way.

CrispyQ

(36,468 posts)
46. Last week one of the news stations had a group of GOP women from Al.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:28 PM
Nov 2017

They didn't think there was much difference between a child molester and a 'pro-abortion' candidate. One said she didn't like Moore but she feared the democratic agenda even more. They'll get one more vote in the senate. That's all they care about.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
16. I wish that were true. But Republicans will never go there.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:54 AM
Nov 2017

They rarely even criticize him to the media. ANY media. With maybe two or three exceptions, they are putting party before country. Republicans are sticking together even as their figurehead pulls America deeper into fascism.

It’s likely that Republican obstinacy is money driven (campaign funds). The Kochs, Sheldon Adelson, the Mercers— they want their money’s worth from the RW pols they bought. That’s certainly the goal of this “tax the middle class and send the wealth upstream” to the wealthy...Sorry, I meant “heroic job creators.”

brush

(53,778 posts)
17. There will be additional indictments and things will spiral out of repug control.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:56 AM
Nov 2017

Mueller will still be standing strong in January.

Just the fact that trump is demanding the investigation be over by Jan. 1 tells you that he's guilty. If he wasn't he wouldn't be worried.

trump is nothing but a bag of hot air, just as he is with NK. They've just tested a new missile that can reach DC and all trump does is say "we'll handle it".

He's nothing but a bluffer. Kim and Mueller both know it.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
27. Trump is not the head of the serpent.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:14 AM
Nov 2017

There is actually a very good chance that Putin is the head, or close to it. GOP mega-donors and big corporations are also drooling at the holiday gift that #45 is offering with this deadly tax bill.

Republicans (with the exceptions of Flake and Corker, who are both retiring) have been as silent about Trump’s misdeeds as they were vocal about Hillary’s alleged faults.

We don’t have Republicans of the caliber we had during Watergate. Nobody’s going to call on Trump to resign or be impeached like Barry Goldwater did with Nixon. If those hearings were going on in today’s partisan climate, Nixon would be sprung along with his lieutenants.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
38. Didnt say it was a done deal. Its the IDEA of such an odious giveaway to the wealthy.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:05 AM
Nov 2017

But they’re busting their Republican backsides to get this through. One by one, the senators who stepped away from the healthcare bill are actually giving in on this.

And it’s not like the healthcare bill went down in flames. It JUST missed passing. Far too close for comfort.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
33. Trump was DIRECTED, via a direct tweet from a Russian
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:36 AM
Nov 2017

agent, to make the appeal to "Russia" to get Hillary's emails. That's the famous appeal we've all seen on TV. I've seen the exact tweet many times. Russia DIRECTED Trumpy to make that appeal.

TexasTowelie

(112,204 posts)
2. I have some ideas for stocking stuffers to put under the Christmas tree.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:36 AM
Nov 2017

Note that I did not call it a Holiday tree.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
6. Who on earth ever expected to learn a human can be this filthy? The WORST human ever born
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:39 AM
Nov 2017

or however it was he got here.

My god.

Can't wait until he leaves, if he will do us the honor. Somehow I doubt it.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
8. I think he'll fire Mueller with impunity
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:45 AM
Nov 2017

The KGOP will cheer and then that will be that. Forgotten when the next 'sexual harassment' claim is released. The mid-terms then become crucial to determine if Trump sets up a quasi-monarchical presidency for life or is held somewhat in check by a Dem congress. Ryan and McConnell will just lick his boots.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
19. I tend this week to agree with your view.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:59 AM
Nov 2017

Some weeks i am more optimistic.

Even if fucking moron us indicted, and charged with crimes, who is going to arrest him ?

RainCaster

(10,877 posts)
12. BFD- Rachel knows not to take 45 seriously
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:49 AM
Nov 2017

Don't lose any sleep over this ass clown. Patience grasshopper.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
28. NY AG Eric Schneiderman will just pick up where Mueller left off.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:16 AM
Nov 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/mueller-new-york-attorney-general-manafort/index.html

Trump can't fire Schneiderman. But Schneiderman better stay away from prostitutes. That's how Bush's DOJ was able to bring down Schneiderman's predecessor, Eliot Spitzer.

Hugin

(33,147 posts)
35. Apparently, McTurtle has given the Bleached Blowfish the judges he needs, now.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:49 AM
Nov 2017

And by then Pedo Roy will be Sen Pedo Roy...

Their game plan is emerging and it looks like an authoritarian dictatorship with a FMOTUS in charge. SMDH

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
41. My gut instinct tells me that
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:31 AM
Nov 2017

Mueller has an ear to the Trump rail and knows the exact timing to drop more arrests/indictments. That will beat Trump to the finish line. Of course, Donnie is a drama queen. He might try to fire Mueller at any time, but my gut again tells me that enough republicans, at that moment, would turn toward impeachment and Trump's removal from office if Mueller is fired. Any way this pans out, we should clean up in the mid-terms. Only the most deluded Trumpanista's are still supporting him and those who kiss his big, fat ..... well you know what I mean.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
47. Numb nuts (NN) doesnt decide when it ends
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 05:01 PM
Nov 2017

NN has wanted to fire Mueller for months now, but everyone around him knows he will be impeached for sure if he does.

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