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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone catch Rachel tonight? Trump demanding Mueller investigation to end by Jan 1, 2018
She said he wants a full exoneration, to prepare for the midterms, by then or else he'd 'blow a gasket.' She showed a WP piece. So we can expect Mueller to be fired early in the New Year. What then?
brush
(53,778 posts)Expect some new indictments before then from Mueller to let trump know he's not running the investigation.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Not directed at you but no way in hell will Ryan and McConnell ever impeach Trump or even mouth verbal criticism.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)There's nothing to stop the NY A.G. from indicting him, according to the Harvard Con Law prof, Laurence Tribe. And NY is the nexus of his money-laundering and other mob-related crimes.
brush
(53,778 posts)media/public pressure will cause trump to resign or suffer impeachment just as it happened with Nixon.
trump is not getting out this as if he is a dictator demanding the investigation to end.
That's not gonna happen, too many smoking Russian guns pointing right at trump and family.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)They and their voters care nothing about the rule of law. Only power and subjugating us.
brush
(53,778 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)But it didn't. Moore should have had to end his campaign but Bannon is rushing to his side to campaign for him next week. 90% of the GOP will always come home to support their guy. Bet you they'd even vote for Jeffrey Dahmer if he had an (R). They are that sick!
Sorry, I'm just really pissed off tonight!
brush
(53,778 posts)if the repugs are not able to talk Moore out of running that party is dead.
The party of child molesters and pu_ _ y grabbers is not going to play well in 2018.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)A lot but think we'll have to win, and will win, without Mueller.
brush
(53,778 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...and to keep that electoral power, the rethuglicans would do just about anything...
I hear the Koch* brothers are ponying up for a kiddie pool out on the Mall.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Youre trusting the GOP to have a conscience. They DO NOT have any. Their president is a serial molester. Didnt slow down the Republicans. Hasnt slowed them. Wont slow them. They are enabling this absolute shit show to proceed ever onward.
Fox, Breitbart, Rush, Hannity, all the usual suspects they are defending Moore. Hes being portrayed as the VICTIM in this mess. Havent you heard? They are screwing with REALITY. Trumps now saying that his pussy-grabbing video was faked.
The old days are gone. What Republicans say is the truth, ISNT.
brush
(53,778 posts)Remember, trump's base that he's been playing to is only a third of the country.
2018 is gonna be a disaster for the repugs as the election pendulum swings back from the extreme right.
Backlashes to the party in power, especially in mid-terms has happened time and time again in American political history.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:10 AM - Edit history (1)
Ive been a loyal Democrat my entire voting life, which Ill wager is much longer than you have. (Hint: I couldnt vote until I was 21.) Ive also been with DU since 2003.
I wish I could share your rosy point of view. Yes, Trumps base may be a third of the country, but do you honestly think any state in the Deep South or the Midwest is going to vote all Democratic?
The reasons theyre winning with lower numbers: 1) Russian interference; 2) Huge corporate and individual donors (or free speech as Citizens United framed it); 3) Gerrymandering. In many states (North Carolina and Texas are the best examples), more Democrats vote than Republicans, but gerrymandering neutralizes it.
Im not saying a Democrat wont win the presidency in 2020. And they may take the Senate in 2018. But the House (again, by virtue of gerrymandering) will retain its Republican control. Bet on it.
brush
(53,778 posts)We just saw what happened in Virginia and New Jersey.
Mid-terms often see power shifts from the party in power, not unusual at all.
VOX
(22,976 posts)And in all that time, there have been only 3 Democratic presidents, as opposed to 6 Republicans. It aint easy being a Democrat.
brush
(53,778 posts)and have no vulnerability. Not so.
If trump fires Mueller that will be a huge, public uproar with people in the streets protesting including me.
If you think the women's march in January was big you ain't seen nothing yet.
Will you be there?
trump and his only one third of the country base won't get away with it.
VOX
(22,976 posts)I got arrested with several other students by LAPD during a campus protest.
Republicans dont control everything, but theyve got: 1) The Supreme Court for several years, at least. And Trumps filling lifetime lower judicial appointments like a one-armed paperhanger. They will interpret the law of the land, and its doubtful theyll ever break for the little guy. 2) Endless money from the fattest donors who are buying a blind eye to federal regulations. FAR more than Democrats ever have in their war chest. 3) Fundraising and campaigning at state levels. No fewer than 32 states have Republican-controlled legislatures (compared to 13 for Democrats; 5 are split). Its a lot easier to win a state in a general election when your machinery is already in place. 4) Fair elections Republicans have already shown their colors (very white) in this matter. They make it tough on Democratic voters, with IDs, etc. Also, the extent of Russian interference is still unknown, and no safeguards have been established or put in place.
Not saying at all that Democrats cant win, but it will require super-human effort to vault over the obstacles, which I am willing to do, with everything I have.
Peace
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)2018 is gonna be a disaster for the repugs as the election pendulum swings back from the extreme right.
Backlashes to the party in power, especially in mid-terms has happened time and time again in American political history.
Thekaspervote
(32,767 posts)He only truly has 1/3 of the republican party which wapo and other pollsters say leaves his true base more like 20-24 percent
brush
(53,778 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)But I don't think Roy Moore would make much difference to it either way.
CrispyQ
(36,468 posts)They didn't think there was much difference between a child molester and a 'pro-abortion' candidate. One said she didn't like Moore but she feared the democratic agenda even more. They'll get one more vote in the senate. That's all they care about.
VOX
(22,976 posts)They rarely even criticize him to the media. ANY media. With maybe two or three exceptions, they are putting party before country. Republicans are sticking together even as their figurehead pulls America deeper into fascism.
Its likely that Republican obstinacy is money driven (campaign funds). The Kochs, Sheldon Adelson, the Mercers they want their moneys worth from the RW pols they bought. Thats certainly the goal of this tax the middle class and send the wealth upstream to the wealthy...Sorry, I meant heroic job creators.
brush
(53,778 posts)Mueller will still be standing strong in January.
Just the fact that trump is demanding the investigation be over by Jan. 1 tells you that he's guilty. If he wasn't he wouldn't be worried.
trump is nothing but a bag of hot air, just as he is with NK. They've just tested a new missile that can reach DC and all trump does is say "we'll handle it".
He's nothing but a bluffer. Kim and Mueller both know it.
VOX
(22,976 posts)There is actually a very good chance that Putin is the head, or close to it. GOP mega-donors and big corporations are also drooling at the holiday gift that #45 is offering with this deadly tax bill.
Republicans (with the exceptions of Flake and Corker, who are both retiring) have been as silent about Trumps misdeeds as they were vocal about Hillarys alleged faults.
We dont have Republicans of the caliber we had during Watergate. Nobodys going to call on Trump to resign or be impeached like Barry Goldwater did with Nixon. If those hearings were going on in todays partisan climate, Nixon would be sprung along with his lieutenants.
brush
(53,778 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)But theyre busting their Republican backsides to get this through. One by one, the senators who stepped away from the healthcare bill are actually giving in on this.
And its not like the healthcare bill went down in flames. It JUST missed passing. Far too close for comfort.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)agent, to make the appeal to "Russia" to get Hillary's emails. That's the famous appeal we've all seen on TV. I've seen the exact tweet many times. Russia DIRECTED Trumpy to make that appeal.
VOX
(22,976 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,204 posts)Note that I did not call it a Holiday tree.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Vile, dangerous human being to hold The potus
dweller
(23,634 posts)fuk him... just another tantrum that amounts to squat... so fuk him !
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)or however it was he got here.
My god.
Can't wait until he leaves, if he will do us the honor. Somehow I doubt it.
dhill926
(16,339 posts)and a few arteries too while you're at it...
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)The KGOP will cheer and then that will be that. Forgotten when the next 'sexual harassment' claim is released. The mid-terms then become crucial to determine if Trump sets up a quasi-monarchical presidency for life or is held somewhat in check by a Dem congress. Ryan and McConnell will just lick his boots.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)The EO simply rescinds the DOJ special counsel regulations.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Some weeks i am more optimistic.
Even if fucking moron us indicted, and charged with crimes, who is going to arrest him ?
RainCaster
(10,877 posts)Don't lose any sleep over this ass clown. Patience grasshopper.
SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)Trump can't fire Schneiderman. But Schneiderman better stay away from prostitutes. That's how Bush's DOJ was able to bring down Schneiderman's predecessor, Eliot Spitzer.
Gothmog
(145,256 posts)Hugin
(33,147 posts)And by then Pedo Roy will be Sen Pedo Roy...
Their game plan is emerging and it looks like an authoritarian dictatorship with a FMOTUS in charge. SMDH
Skittles
(153,160 posts)blue-wave
(4,353 posts)Mueller has an ear to the Trump rail and knows the exact timing to drop more arrests/indictments. That will beat Trump to the finish line. Of course, Donnie is a drama queen. He might try to fire Mueller at any time, but my gut again tells me that enough republicans, at that moment, would turn toward impeachment and Trump's removal from office if Mueller is fired. Any way this pans out, we should clean up in the mid-terms. Only the most deluded Trumpanista's are still supporting him and those who kiss his big, fat ..... well you know what I mean.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)NN has wanted to fire Mueller for months now, but everyone around him knows he will be impeached for sure if he does.