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Why is it all of these men accused of sexual inappropriate behavior (Original Post) mfcorey1 Nov 2017 OP
IOKIYAR HughBeaumont Nov 2017 #1
Most of them fired are admitting to workplace rules being broken not just accusations uponit7771 Nov 2017 #2
they need more evidence bdamomma Nov 2017 #10
What evidence are they in possession of? Nt NCTraveler Nov 2017 #12
The person/colleague who made allegations bdamomma Nov 2017 #15
I seem to be missing something. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #16
I don't want to give you false information bdamomma Nov 2017 #23
That is very different than this statement. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #24
sorry for bdamomma Nov 2017 #26
I understand but it would be ... just Trump level dumb for them to fire Lauer without anything hard uponit7771 Nov 2017 #17
exactly a bdamomma Nov 2017 #25
the king answers to no one. spanone Nov 2017 #3
It all depends on sharp_stick Nov 2017 #4
Congress is the only entity that can touch him HAB911 Nov 2017 #5
come on now, trump has never been held accoutnable OR admitted fault EVER.... beachbum bob Nov 2017 #6
he is not above the law bdamomma Nov 2017 #11
he is not above the law NCTraveler Nov 2017 #13
So far 45 has been above the law. ananda Nov 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Nov 2017 #20
Quotation marks are not always showing up in the subject line. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #22
It is starting to feel like all the men accused are on the perceived left side of the spectrum NCDem47 Nov 2017 #7
A lot of other people have pointed out the difficulty of getting him in real trouble el_bryanto Nov 2017 #8
the biggest assaulter of all bdamomma Nov 2017 #9
the Sexual Assaulter-in-Chief spanone Nov 2017 #14
but he continues to support Moore bdamomma Nov 2017 #18
Now would be the time for all Trumps accusers to come forward or better yet blueinredohio Nov 2017 #21
Be careful. Russians have been hard at work dismantling US institutions. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #27
Because removing a POTUS is much harder than firing a private industry whathehell Nov 2017 #28
He is such a hypocrite! He is in no position to criticize anyone for their sexually inappropriate smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #29

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
1. IOKIYAR
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:09 AM
Nov 2017
It's OK, if You're a Republican.

Powerful Republicans never have to face consequences for their crimes unless they screw over fellow wealthy people.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
2. Most of them fired are admitting to workplace rules being broken not just accusations
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:12 AM
Nov 2017

... were he said she said is the only evidence.

It would be really stupid for NBC to fire Lauer if Lauer is sternly saying he didn't do something.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
10. they need more evidence
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:33 AM
Nov 2017

first complaint of wrongdoing in what 20 yrs. I am not condoning his actions either.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
15. The person/colleague who made allegations
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:41 AM
Nov 2017

against Matt Lauer in inappropriate sexual behaviour. More facts need to be presented.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. I seem to be missing something.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:44 AM
Nov 2017

They didn’t talk to Lower? You are stating they did nothing but listen to her and terminate him. This is the first I’m hearing of this.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
23. I don't want to give you false information
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:01 AM
Nov 2017

I really would like to know if he stated his case before getting fired.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
26. sorry for
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:11 AM
Nov 2017

misunderstanding I need more coffee. Just that there are many allegations coming out every day, it's mind boggling.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
17. I understand but it would be ... just Trump level dumb for them to fire Lauer without anything hard
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:45 AM
Nov 2017

... to fire him off of.

If NBC fired Lauer just off some he said she said without any hard evidence of WORKPLACE (which is a higher standard then criminal assault IMHO) misconduct then they'd be in line for a really big lawsuit.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
25. exactly a
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:07 AM
Nov 2017

really big lawsuit. Again, as some of DU posters have said this has been happening to women for many years. It's really a sickness. After many years of being assaulted and prowled upon and inappropriate sexual overtones and gestures it is coming back hard, KARMA is a bitch isn't it?

But I want to see the biggest assaulter get his and he's sitting in the WH.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
4. It all depends on
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:16 AM
Nov 2017

who is covering them. Trump faces no consequences because the GOP congress doesn't mind. Until 2018 that's the only possible group that could force him to face consequences.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. he is not above the law
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:39 AM
Nov 2017

The law is not applied evenly and is a huge part of our battle. In a number of instances he truly is above the law. Legal concept and reality are not the same.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
19. So far 45 has been above the law.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:54 AM
Nov 2017

His family too.

I keep reading article after article, putting evidence in place
against 45 and family members.

I keep seeing investigation after investigation ... and this has
been going on for years ..

AND NOTHING.

Response to ananda (Reply #19)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. Quotation marks are not always showing up in the subject line.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:01 AM
Nov 2017

“He is not above the law”

I was quoting the other poster. Sorry about the confusion. I wish quotation marks always worked in the subject line.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
7. It is starting to feel like all the men accused are on the perceived left side of the spectrum
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:25 AM
Nov 2017

...and they are dealing with the fallout or swift action has been taken. Rightfully so in some airtight cases.

Meanwhile, on the right, lots of denial and no action or accountability. There have been scattered local issues with Repubs who are exposed harassers and hypocrites, but nothing at the national level that I know of other than the President and Moore - and you see how THAT is going.

Infuriating!!

I don't think there is a conspiracy going on as accusers are feeling empowered to come forward. But I do think Trump is taking advantage of the situation to set the stage that "everyone does it" and to muddy the waters on accusations against him.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
8. A lot of other people have pointed out the difficulty of getting him in real trouble
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:28 AM
Nov 2017

without the republican congress doing it - which they seem disinclined to do. But along with that is an additional problem; when there is an accusation against a prominent Democrat whether politically or in other fields, most Democrats will take the problem seriously. Consider how we looked at the accusation against Al Franken - there were a few who let him off the hook immediately but for the most we treated it as a serious accusation no matter where we ended up coming down on the issue.

With Republicans when one of their members is accused of something the investigation starts and finishes with "He's a republican? The media must be lying!" The climate is such that the Republican politicians can count on their base just ignoring any evidence of wrong doing on those grounds. So you have one side that wants to get to the truth of accusations and one side that dismisses accusations out of hand (unless they are against Democrats in which case they must be guilty).

Bryant

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
9. the biggest assaulter of all
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:29 AM
Nov 2017

16 women were muzzled by this prick, He needs to go. O'Reilly and many more got their asses handed to them.

Why does he protest/deny so much or support other women accusers because he is one also.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
18. but he continues to support Moore
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:51 AM
Nov 2017

and Moore's supporters can see no wrong. Our moral compass has been out of wack since this POS has entered the WH.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
21. Now would be the time for all Trumps accusers to come forward or better yet
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:59 AM
Nov 2017

CNN should have all of them on a show telling what he did to them and when

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
27. Be careful. Russians have been hard at work dismantling US institutions.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:26 AM
Nov 2017

Divide and conquer.

One way is to destroy the public's confidence in a free and open press. Any assistance that they can provide in destroying the trust in the press is well appreciated by Trumpy and his team of traitors. So Russia's using propaganda resources to help the Billowing Blowhard destroy the US government and any US institutions that promote stability.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
28. Because removing a POTUS is much harder than firing a private industry
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:48 AM
Nov 2017

employee. That, and the fact that a Repuke Congress is unikely to impeach a Repuke POTUS on it's basis.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. He is such a hypocrite! He is in no position to criticize anyone for their sexually inappropriate
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:05 AM
Nov 2017

behavior, but of course that doesn't stop him. He just can't keep his fat mouth shut.

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