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sl8

(13,779 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:31 AM Nov 2017

Russian man dies after posing for photo with hand grenade

From http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-man-selfie-grenade-photo-dies-killed-explosion-alexander-sasha-chechik-labinsk-pin-a8080771.html


Alexander Chechik died soon after he posted a photograph of a hand grenade from which he had removed the pin east2west news

Russian man dies after posing for photo with hand grenade
Alexander 'Sasha' Chechik was killed instantly, say police

Harry Cockburn |12 hours ago

A Russian man has died after he pulled the pin out of a hand grenade and posted photographs of himself holding it.

Alexander 'Sasha' Chechik was killed instantly in the incident in the city of Labinsk in south west Russia, police said.

According to local news outlet Kuban.kp.ru, the man had sent a text to a friend, including a picture of the grenade in his hand with the pin pulled from the device lying nearby.

In the text exchange, the man’s friend asks him where he is and if everything is ok.

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Russian man dies after posing for photo with hand grenade (Original Post) sl8 Nov 2017 OP
So they have Florida men in Russia? n/t Crunchy Frog Nov 2017 #1
... eShirl Nov 2017 #2
I was going to make a Florida man reference (since I live in FL) ExciteBike66 Nov 2017 #3
Another Candidate atreides1 Nov 2017 #4
Stupid is as Stupid does PJMcK Nov 2017 #5
stories where someone shoots themselves because they think their gun is unloaded lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #6
Is that true? PJMcK Nov 2017 #7
I doubt there are studies, because it's almost impossible to study. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #8
Things to do today underpants Nov 2017 #9

ExciteBike66

(2,357 posts)
3. I was going to make a Florida man reference (since I live in FL)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:41 AM
Nov 2017

but if this was a suicide then it is wrong to make light of it.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
5. Stupid is as Stupid does
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:43 AM
Nov 2017

It's good to know that Americans don't hold the patent on Stupidity.

It's like the stories where someone shoots themselves because they think their gun is unloaded. Why do people play with dangerous and deadly weapons? It's incomprehensible to me.

This past summer, we went to a party at some friend's country place. Good food, lots of drinking and fun conversations continued late into the evening. Around 10 pm, the owner and his neighbors hauled out their guns and started shooting up the hill into the woods, (there really couldn't be any people in the forest because its inaccessible). We decided that the combination of alcohol, pot and guns was unsafe so we left. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?!

As I've written many times, I'm agnostic about guns. However, like the idiot with the hand grenade, this particular circumstance was not a safe environment.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. stories where someone shoots themselves because they think their gun is unloaded
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:46 AM
Nov 2017

You know those are a cover for suicide, right?

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
7. Is that true?
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:57 AM
Nov 2017

I've never heard that though in some cases it could be true.

The example that came to mind was the guitarist, Terry Kath of Chicago. He was stoned and drunk and shot himself with an "unloaded" gun. His friends and band mates all claimed that Kath wasn't suicidal. He was a great musician and his death was a huge creative loss.

That's simply one example, of course. Are there any studies that support your statement?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. I doubt there are studies, because it's almost impossible to study.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:02 AM
Nov 2017

That's why it's such a perfect cover. You can't really rewind and look into somebody's soul.

But given that 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides, it certainly provides a large, motivated group of families who don't want the stigma, or might suffer insurance consequences if suicide is established.

On edit: seems I was wrong. Here's an interesting one.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e175/0d0ef0fb23ac5c8e4bf853ccf841a3c8714c.pdf

JOURNAL OF INSURANCE MEDICINE

"...Since a gun-cleaning ‘‘accident’’ is almost
always an attempt to disguise a suicide, a private
investigator was hired to obtain records
from the local police and relevant medical
care providers, both recent and remote. In addition,
the investigator took a statement from
the insured’s fiance´e (and beneficiary) 6
weeks after the death. Finally, he obtained
copies of photographs taken by the police..."

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