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When I Despair..... (Original Post) kpete Nov 2017 OP
As comforting as Gandhi's words and example, i sadly can not forget hlthe2b Nov 2017 #1
Yeah. And Gandhi was wrong n2doc Nov 2017 #2
I think of it more as Ying&Yang kpete Nov 2017 #3
yes... I do too. hlthe2b Nov 2017 #4
THIS KPN Nov 2017 #7
We didnt get to be the top species on the planet because were nice. Calista241 Nov 2017 #5
They certainly take their toll along the way world wide wally Nov 2017 #6
Good reminder for trying times ... KPN Nov 2017 #8
THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. slumcamper Nov 2017 #9
Thanks for this Mountain Mule Nov 2017 #10
We have to come through bdamomma Nov 2017 #11
It took 50,000,000 dead to get rid of Hitler... First Speaker Nov 2017 #12
Unfortunately, I just can't believe this. Stonepounder Nov 2017 #13
I agree. Duppers Nov 2017 #14
Millions of dead & living Native Americans Duppers Nov 2017 #15
Another version - RandomAccess Nov 2017 #16

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
1. As comforting as Gandhi's words and example, i sadly can not forget
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:46 AM
Nov 2017

that he died at the hand of Hindu extremists--assassins among his own people-- who felt he was too sympathetic to the Muslim minority in 1948 post partition India. I visited his memorial site years ago and the ironies of our current world situation are nearly overwhelming...

Sorry to be a bummer this morning, but I am genuinely worried, having seen Trump's retweet of horrendous racist conspiracy material from a British anti-Muslim extremest group this morning-- so bad that even pro-Trump Piers Morgan responded with disgust.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. Yeah. And Gandhi was wrong
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:15 AM
Nov 2017

Look at the Roman Empire. Or the Middle East. Or his own India. Hate and fear rule the day. And show no signs of being replaced.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
7. THIS
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:18 AM
Nov 2017

the pendulum always swings ... and on balance, Ghandi was and is right. Despite periodic contradictions, we humans throughout history have made and will continue to make "progress" on balance. Two steps forward, one step back. Unfortunately, lives and sometimes whole generations suffer or are lost during the disparate interludes. I do believe we are experiencing one of those now.

Hope and reminders. We need them daily.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
5. We didnt get to be the top species on the planet because were nice.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:30 AM
Nov 2017

Was a quote from one of the Marines in Ken Burns’s Vietnam documentary.

He goes on to argue that people think boot camp turns young men into savages, but that they’re wrong and it’s just finishing school for our already depraved and bloodthirsty tendencies.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
6. They certainly take their toll along the way
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:32 AM
Nov 2017

Just look at their victims and their families. The damage these pricks cause is incomprehensible

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
13. Unfortunately, I just can't believe this.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:32 PM
Nov 2017

I am not at all convinced that the the human race, as we know it, is going to survive. Between global warming, that seems to have shot past the tipping point, the fact that we have not one but two madmen ruling countries with nuclear weapon capability, and the fact that here in the US our government has decided that the whole '...of the people, by the people, and for the people' thing is just so much BS and instead we need to become a third world oligarchy, I figure the human race is pretty much finished.

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