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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:36 AM Nov 2017

I can't help but wonder.....

I’m not the first or the tenth person to say this, but I can’t help wonder how different and how much better the last year would have been if Hillary Clinton hadn’t been covered by men who share Donald Trump’s view of women.



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PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
3. I'm not the first or the tenth person to say this,...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:43 AM
Nov 2017

...but I can't help wonder how different and how much better the last year would have been if Hillary Clinton had rightfully been elected president.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
6. It affected many women voters also
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:09 PM
Nov 2017

I talked with a GOP voter a few days after the election. You couldn't say anything right about Hillary.
Her dad told her to vote Trump, and she just went along with the dominant male view. Her rationale?
"I couldn't stand her voice."

Now that's a sure way to be an informed voter - NOT!

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
7. I thought Andrea on her MSNBC show ,,,
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:17 PM
Nov 2017

was going to tear up over her bud Matt being fired,,,,,,,, geeez

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I think Russia did it But as for the woman thing, how that hurt her was her age & weight.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:18 PM
Nov 2017

It's not just an imaginary thing that women past a certain age become invisible. Once they are no longer considered "fuc___ble," they cease to exist, in a way.

So HRC being older, overweight, and wearing pantsuits...I'm sure that she was considered a nothing to many men. Part of what made Sarah Palin so popular w/conservatives was her looks, clothing, and age. HRC would have done better among some voters had she been a so-called babe.

This phenomenon doesn't seem to apply to men. Exhibit A: Trump. Really old, forgetful, morbidly obese, the weirdest hair in the universe, unattractive, his "babe" days were over years before. Didn't affect him a bit, as he criticized women for being too fat or old.

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
9. I wonder how things would be different now if Gore had been inaugurated instead of W...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:50 PM
Nov 2017

We've lost so much ground in the climate change debate/denial... so much time going backwards. Plus a whole host of other issues and concerns...

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