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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:52 PM Nov 2017

The Republican tax bill will end cancer treatment for Medicare patients

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/29/1719511/-The-Republican-tax-bill-will-end-cancer-treatment-for-Medicare-patients?detail=facebook


The Republican tax bill will end cancer treatment for Medicare patients
By Joan McCarter
Wednesday Nov 29, 2017 · 12:43 PM EST


If the Republican tax cuts bill becomes law, it will immediately trigger a $25 billion cut in Medicare. That's because of mandatory spending cuts that will kick in as a result the tax bill’s $1.5 billion increase to the deficit. The last time this happened, that Medicare cuts were forced, wasn't that long ago. It was 2013. And as Sarah Kliff reminds us, what happened then was that cancer patients were turned away from clinics, because the clinics couldn't afford the expensive chemotherapy drugs they were administering without Medicare offsetting the costs.

In 2013, it was temporary, part of the government shutdown. This time around it would be a permanent cut. In light of that, Kliff followed up with an oncologist who sees that threat again as a result of this bill.

I talked to one Long Island oncologist who said he and his staff held an emergency meeting earlier this week and decided they would no longer see one-third of their 16,000 Medicare patients. "It's a choice between seeing these patients and staying in business," Jeff Vacirca, chief executive of North Shore Hematology Oncology Associates, told me.

The Senate could pass separate legislation to skirt these rules that would require the automatic budget cuts—but as my colleague Tara Golshan notes, the politics of Republicans voting to undermine a deficit-management law won't be easy.

And if they don't, the fears of cancer clinics turning patients away could become real again. The tax bill could, for some seniors, become a bill that sharply limits their access to health care.

Cancer patients and survivors, people with other serious, life-threatening conditions are facing the very real possibility that they will lose their insurance because of the repeal of the mandate in Obamacare. Patients who thought they'd be okay because they're covered by Medicare are now losing that assurance.

Republicans are taking away treatment from cancer patients. They're doing it to give tax cuts to corporations and the rich. And they're proud of themselves.


Senators Collins, Corker, Flake, Johnson, McCain, Murkowksi? All we need are THREE of these Republicans to stop the worst GOP Tax Scam, and the Senate is voting any day. Call your senators at (202) 224-3121 and tell them to vote "no."
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The Republican tax bill will end cancer treatment for Medicare patients (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2017 OP
the reichwing death panels are alive and well in congress. niyad Nov 2017 #1
Spread this far and wide dalton99a Nov 2017 #2
Republicans are worse than ISIS, much worse. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #3
Absolutely. dalton99a Nov 2017 #4
back to back SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #8
CBO projects more than 13 million Americans would lose their insurance dalton99a Nov 2017 #12
What would be effective atreides1 Nov 2017 #28
Oh, you're right SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #29
If ur talking about 'number of Americans harmed by their existence/policies', its damn fucking right mr_lebowski Nov 2017 #50
The comment was: SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #59
I especially liked how you provided objective evidence to support your sentiment. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #66
Wow SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #68
Will the M$M even report this, but Matt Lauer, now that is important bullshit!!! FreeStateDemocrat Nov 2017 #5
Wellllll, Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #11
'Deviate'. Another most excellent modifier. eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #34
I was thinking about this today. Willie Pep Nov 2017 #52
Madness and cruelty from the GOP flamingdem Nov 2017 #6
good article bluestarone Nov 2017 #7
Republicans want to kill their own voters for tax cuts IronLionZion Nov 2017 #9
They don't need their voters anymore. Dave Starsky Nov 2017 #27
I'll say it again, They're thinning out the Herd. maveric Nov 2017 #10
Trump/GOP Deathcare bearssoapbox Nov 2017 #13
We need to let the Gubermint shut Down untill, Cryptoad Nov 2017 #14
Shut it down. Shut it down. Shut it down. notdarkyet Nov 2017 #15
Republicans are fine with that IronLionZion Nov 2017 #32
I dont think so,,, not anymore Cryptoad Nov 2017 #42
GOP is in favor of DEATH PANELS just as Palin said they would Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #16
Pretty sure the 65+ year old Republicans get cancer titaniumsalute Nov 2017 #17
The bastards have already admitted in public that constituents workinclasszero Nov 2017 #19
They now don't care. They figure this could be their Last-Grab Gotterdammerung before....Mueller. WinkyDink Nov 2017 #24
I am anticipating and expecting His Most Excellent Mueller SOON. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #35
Yes they must rape the public while they have the power workinclasszero Nov 2017 #61
The Kochs, the Mercers and Wall St don't give a shit about us useless eaters! workinclasszero Nov 2017 #18
They want us DEAD and GONE. No pensions. No interest on savings. No jobs. And no WinkyDink Nov 2017 #26
Bingo workinclasszero Nov 2017 #62
The Kochs, Mercers et al and their sycophantic followers are Truly useless eaters and breathers. MarcA Nov 2017 #44
They are a plague on humanity for sure. workinclasszero Nov 2017 #63
This really is frightening and Im surprised Dems arent pushing this every chance they get. Nanjeanne Nov 2017 #20
They're hoping we won't find out until it's too late FakeNoose Nov 2017 #65
That's scary. As a person on Medicare without vast, personal wealth I'd be toast. Vinca Nov 2017 #21
Then we better be busting down the doors LittleGirl Nov 2017 #22
Just called PA. Sen. Toomey's office (take your pick: tumor/tomb-y). Woman who anwered listened WinkyDink Nov 2017 #23
retweeting this, thanks, and rec! nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #25
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #30
Kick volstork Nov 2017 #31
Bookmarking to call later. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #33
I wonder how much the supplemental insurance House of Roberts Nov 2017 #36
They will cap coverage or not cover. roamer65 Nov 2017 #45
The emoji for rage is not strong enough bronxiteforever Nov 2017 #37
Pure EVIL that is what the White House Occupant and the GOP are nowadays. nt iluvtennis Nov 2017 #38
Insurance companies will love this crap. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #39
if I had extra money, I would pay for this to be advertised on Twitter.... steve2470 Nov 2017 #40
Rethugs are EVIL! burrowowl Nov 2017 #41
kick nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #43
jeeeezusssssss BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #46
MONSTERS Hekate Nov 2017 #47
I feel like vomiting. They are going to get away with this and they will STILL probably smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #48
Fewer Democratic voters alive to vote Dem into their old age. applegrove Nov 2017 #49
redumbliCONs are determined to hasten extinction of humans in America. democratisphere Nov 2017 #51
This is why I disagree with anyone who says we need the two Parties. WinkyDink Nov 2017 #53
sucks rtracey Nov 2017 #54
K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #55
Corker still has his phone off the hook? 58Sunliner Nov 2017 #56
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? heaven05 Nov 2017 #57
Evil On A Grand Scale colsohlibgal Nov 2017 #58
Tax cuts equal human lives cuts Mountain Mule Nov 2017 #60
Protest Today in DC!! 58Sunliner Nov 2017 #64
Trump's BILLION $$$$ BONUS (tax break) is the biggest scam of his life. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #67

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
28. What would be effective
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:42 PM
Nov 2017

Is if the CBO could project how many Americans will die, due to the loss of their insurance!

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
29. Oh, you're right
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:47 PM
Nov 2017

That is much worse than ISIS. I'm sure they have a great health care system in the areas they control.

for clarity, I was responding to Post #3)

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
50. If ur talking about 'number of Americans harmed by their existence/policies', its damn fucking right
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:50 AM
Nov 2017

In my book.

Your book ... may be different.

Reasonable people may disagree on particular applications of a very vague word like 'worse', but I fully believe it can be argued that this GOP tax proposal is far worse than anything ISIS could ever do to our population, in any practical sense.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
59. The comment was:
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:36 AM
Nov 2017

“The Republicans are worse than ISIS.”
If you want to endorse that then just jump into the lunatic fringe.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
66. I especially liked how you provided objective evidence to support your sentiment.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

I especially liked how you provided objective evidence to support your sentiment, rather than making a simplistic and petulant allegation designed merely trivialize anyone who disagrees with your position.

It indicates a most rational mind, free of bias and youthful passions...

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
68. Wow
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:16 PM
Nov 2017

Just Wow.
I really need to provide factual evidence that the US Republican Party is not worse than ISIS? ISIS?!
Don't think I care to discuss this with you any more.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
5. Will the M$M even report this, but Matt Lauer, now that is important bullshit!!!
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017

When is enough, enough, does the American public even pay attention (or care) anymore, how can this insanity be allowed to become law??? Piss on the deviate millionaires and their sexual proclivities, report what is vitally important to the rest of us.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Wellllll,
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:22 PM
Nov 2017

Priorities my friend. This effects Corporate Bonus's. Cheaper Insurance=Bigger Bonus's. Nothing here to see,move along. Yup,that's the ticket.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
52. I was thinking about this today.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:37 AM
Nov 2017

You really don't hear much about stuff like Medicare policy. You really have to actively search for it and most people don't do that. The MSM has become more and more like the tabloids. Medicare is not sexy or sensational enough I guess to get views or clicks.

I think this is part of why so many people vote GOP. I have elderly relatives who vote GOP but who will be hurt by the Republican bill. None of the news they watch seems to cover it. Granted they watch a lot of Fox News which cannot be trusted at all but they also watch the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) which should be held to a higher standard.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
9. Republicans want to kill their own voters for tax cuts
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:15 PM
Nov 2017

it's not like immigrants are sneaking in here and stealing cancer treatments. I'm deeply disappointed that more Republicans haven't come out against this insane tax bill.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
27. They don't need their voters anymore.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:39 PM
Nov 2017

Gerrymandering and "black box" voting machines have it all taken care of.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
42. I dont think so,,, not anymore
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 06:41 PM
Nov 2017

maybe the GOP of Yesteryear but The Party of Trump is too in love with the money it is screwing the gubermint out of,,,,,,, hell it cant be any worst than what it be like if this tax bill is signed into law! Shut it Down!

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
17. Pretty sure the 65+ year old Republicans get cancer
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:38 PM
Nov 2017

This doesn't really even make sense. They are trying to kill their own constituents.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. The bastards have already admitted in public that constituents
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:43 PM
Nov 2017

don't even enter into the equation.

The republican party exists to enrich its multi billionaire owners/donors ONLY!

sprinkleeninow

(20,249 posts)
35. I am anticipating and expecting His Most Excellent Mueller SOON.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 05:09 PM
Nov 2017

Please let it be done unto us!!
The gift we are all deserving of.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
61. Yes they must rape the public while they have the power
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:42 PM
Nov 2017

2018 is coming up fast and the public hates this Attack America tax cut for billionaires, gotta fuck over the sick kids and old folks quick!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. The Kochs, the Mercers and Wall St don't give a shit about us useless eaters!
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:40 PM
Nov 2017

Die MF's while we steal your last penny!

When the FUCK are Americans gonna get WOKE!?!?

Maybe when Grammy and Grandpa are writhing in bone cancer pain on the living room floor dying by inches?

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
26. They want us DEAD and GONE. No pensions. No interest on savings. No jobs. And no
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:39 PM
Nov 2017

health insurance or Medicare.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
62. Bingo
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:46 PM
Nov 2017

And leave the economy a smoking ruin like Bush did.

Its all on the way damn it. I'm sure Jill Stein and Susan Sarandon will have a good laugh over our suffering though.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
63. They are a plague on humanity for sure.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:48 PM
Nov 2017

Why billionaires demand welfare from this country even if it kills poor kids and old folks I'll never understand.

Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
20. This really is frightening and Im surprised Dems arent pushing this every chance they get.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:00 PM
Nov 2017

Most people have family members or are themselves cancer patients using Medicare and know how good and valuable the program is. My husband has multiple myeloma, an incurable but somewhat manageable blood cancer and he is pretty much on continuous treatment for the rest of his life. Medicare has been a wonderful program for us in terms of his care. Pills he takes at home u see the disastrous Part D mess is another story. But his stem cell transplant, his in hospital treatment, his doctor appointments. Nothing has been a problem and we are so grateful for this. And I am sure we are not alone in this.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
22. Then we better be busting down the doors
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:27 PM
Nov 2017

at the cancer drug companies. They are making hand over fist profit on their expensive drugs and people are dying. Maybe they should step up and offer these drugs to these patients themselves. Ya I know, I'm just a dreamer.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
23. Just called PA. Sen. Toomey's office (take your pick: tumor/tomb-y). Woman who anwered listened
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:36 PM
Nov 2017

very patiently as I quoted some of the OP's article. I also mentioned to her that she might want to use Medicare herself some day, or to think of her elderly relatives and friends.

Cancer can happen to all. But the very wealthy need not worry about receiving and affording treatment.

sprinkleeninow

(20,249 posts)
33. Bookmarking to call later.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 05:01 PM
Nov 2017

Yesterday I launched a missive to Senator Charles Shumer and suggested he have a 'talk' with Senators Manchin and Heitkamp who 'may' be considering to vote FOR the egregious tax reform bill that the republucres are just itching to get passed.

What the WHATTT??

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
39. Insurance companies will love this crap.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 05:38 PM
Nov 2017

Like us, many on Medicare may panic an rush out and buy more supplemental or on-the-side policies.

More money in the campaign coffers of the Repugs. Welcome to our race to the bottom.


steve2470

(37,457 posts)
40. if I had extra money, I would pay for this to be advertised on Twitter....
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 05:41 PM
Nov 2017

This is, as Joe Biden would say, a really BIG F******G DEAL! Somehow I think even some of the crazies in Trump's base would call Congress on this one.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
48. I feel like vomiting. They are going to get away with this and they will STILL probably
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:15 PM
Nov 2017

not lose any voters. At least not any living voters.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
53. This is why I disagree with anyone who says we need the two Parties.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:20 AM
Nov 2017

We don't need any of the murderous psychopaths called "Republicans."

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
54. sucks
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:23 AM
Nov 2017

this sucks, but I do hope people think about it when their loved one is not receiving the care they need. Next time vote your head not your fox news. Elections have consequences and we are feeling and dying with it now.....

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
56. Corker still has his phone off the hook?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:44 AM
Nov 2017

I also could not reach anyone at any offices either. Murkowski has an answering machine on in DC. I've been using twitter.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
57. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:47 AM
Nov 2017

cancer patients will be turned away? Told to go home and die? WTF! These murderers will kill americans and they don't care. American media, 66 million hateful, vicious, evil people have allowed this to happen...I hope A LOT of trump ass lickers are in the group destined to be murdered by this current administration and congress...fall of the ameriKKKan empire is well underway because of internal rot.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
58. Evil On A Grand Scale
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:48 AM
Nov 2017

Charlie Pierce calls Paul Ryan the “Zombie Eyed Granny Starver” and that could apply to a vast percentage of Republicans right now. They are so anxious to transfer even more wealth upward at the expense of everyone else.

They are beyond eager to undo the New Deal, so they put up with a deranged, mentally ill rich clown in the White House. But why not, they would prefer a child predator as Senator in Alabama over a Democrat.

It is all perverse and sick, let’s hope we survive this period

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
67. Trump's BILLION $$$$ BONUS (tax break) is the biggest scam of his life.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:30 PM
Nov 2017

More like a gargantuan heist of the US Treasury for himself and all his billionaire pals.

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