Not sure why women in the media assumed that this new openess in reporting sexual harassment

[Baitball Blogger]

would be equally received by all women.

I am shocked to read reactions from some women from high school. I knew they were conservative, but, damn.

Facebook comments were something like: What is going on with all these men stepping down? Wasn't it always known that boys will be boys?

And another response from someone: I think they are being targeted by women.

Why don't they get it?

[HopeAgain]

1. Socialization...

If you are taught this is okay, it takes an open mind to see things differently. Open minds are not valued in many parts of 'Murica.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Some oppressed groups identify with the oppressor. Like a societal Stockholm

Syndrome.

[MadDAsHell]

4. Didnt the 44th consecutive male president get more of the female vote in 2012...

than Hillary did in 2016?

After that, nothing is really shocking.

[rainin]

2. I've taken a sort of unpopular view

that Conyers should not step down unless Trump does. I realize that this is not right to the women who Conyers has allegedly offended/assaulted. We don't even know all have come forward. But, can't we demand an equal standard for both sides?

At least, ASK for Trump to resign while we are asking for the resignation of Conyers.

[OceanChick]

5. Because they've never been victimized

As a victim myself, I think that when people deny it, it's because they've never been victimized or know someone who's been victimized or they're just fucking idiots incapable of thinking for themselves and just think what their husband tell them to think.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Or maybe they are victims and if they admit other women have been abused, they have to face

their own abuse. Common in families of abuse.

[JennyMominFL]

6. Because men and women are encultured in the same society.

Women are born and raised in the same culture as men. From day one women are taught our roles and that we are less then. We learn to accept harassment as our fault, or as simply the way it is. Women are just as capable of misogyny as men are.

[napi21]

7. My guess is they are fairly young.

I'm 74 now. In the 60's I well recall the "inappropriate behavior" in he workplace. It was everywhere I worked. AFAIK many of the women I knew and liked the attention;most of my friends met their husbands at work. Those who were disurbed by the advances rebuffed the unwanted attention and mostly were left alone.

I last worked in 1999. Unwanted sexual advances were happening more openly done than when I first entered the work force. Lawsuits had become the answer and the companies I was familiar with had made it a firing offense.

[rsong71]

8. Internalized Sexism

Even I am shocked to realize that I have some internalized sexism. (I'm a woman) I have tolerated a lot of bad behavior in the workplace in an effort to get along with the guys. I thought I had to in order to progress in my career. This whole thing has made me stop and think about my own blind spot.

[NJCher]

9. yep, I see what you mean

I work with a woman who is like that. Recently our organization was offering some scholarships to college students, and I suggested we specify at least one of the three scholarships go to women to encourage them into the sciences. Nope, she said, she would never vote for that. No reason to encourage women in the sciences. She is in a science field and she just loves being the only woman.

How sick is that?

Then yesterday at lunch she said she thought the women coming forward was a "witch hunt." "Whatever happened to due process?" Some of the men at the table pointed out to her that many of the men in question had admitted and apologized for what they did, but this didn't phase her in the least.

I pointed out there was nothing in this for the woman who has been harassed to come forward, but she said "all these women" just love "victim" status. At that point I just flatly disagreed with her and refused to comment more, as I knew it would fall on deaf ears.

[elehhhhna]

10. Think about it, when boys harass little girls in kindergarten

Think about it, when boys harass little girls in kindergarten The girls are told oh he just likes you. This shit starts really young. I find it fascinating that some women seem to think that women coming forward with these types of allegations get all kinds of great prizes and positive feedback because it sure as shit doesn't work that way

[nocalflea]

11. It's complicated.

Why did so many women run away from the term feminist ?
Messaging ? "feminazi" ?
Fear of not being accepted by men ?

There are no easy answers and generalizations may not help.

ex: my dad was an avowed feminist. He was an ex-college jock born in 1934. Totally against the stereotype at the time. Why was he different than some in his peer group ?