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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:06 PM Nov 2017

Manafort strikes $11 million bail deal with prosecutors

and another sucker is born.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/30/paul-manafort-bail-10-million-271762

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has reached a $11 million bail agreement with prosecutors that could clear the way for him to be released from the house arrest he's been under for the past four weeks.

In court filings released Thursday afternoon, Manafort's defense attorneys revealed "an agreed-upon bail package" with lawyers from Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office who obtained an indictment last month charging Manafort and business partner Rick Gates with money laundering and failing to register as foreign agents.

The deal involves the pledging of four properties: Manafort's Alexandria, Va. condominium where he's been under home detention, his Palm Beach Gardens, Fla. home, a condo in Manhattan and another property in Bridgehampton, N.Y.

Manafort's defense team said the properties are worth more than $11 million, after existing mortgages are deducted.

"The Defendant will execute an agreement to forfeit four (4) separate real properties if there is a bail violation with a total estimated net value (i.e., fair market value less encumbrances) of approximately $11.65 million. The OSC has agreed that the properties posted provide the reasonable assurance required under the Bail Reform Act," Manafort lawyers Kevin Downing and Tom Zehnle wrote.

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You are never gonna see this man again. Ever. 11 million is chump change, to Manafort or Pootey. You are gonna be so sorry. Money talks, justice walks.

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Manafort strikes $11 million bail deal with prosecutors (Original Post) deminks Nov 2017 OP
Still a lot of $$ Sophiegirl Nov 2017 #1
He's going to be allowed to travel??? He's going to hop a private jet to Moscow NightWatcher Nov 2017 #2
Who provided the valuation of the properties? BoneyardDem Nov 2017 #3
Pretty sure brucefan Nov 2017 #5
He has 3--that we *know* about. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #7
He has (had) at least 3 deminks Nov 2017 #8
Ever flown in a private plane from a small airport? NightWatcher Nov 2017 #10
What is even the point of having customs then if that's the case? kcr Nov 2017 #12
Different rules for rich people. NightWatcher Nov 2017 #13
I'm skeptical kcr Nov 2017 #14
I never said it was legal. What are they going to do, arrest Manafort? NightWatcher Nov 2017 #16
I don't think he should have been given bail kcr Nov 2017 #20
Sorry to have been too vague or misleading. NightWatcher Nov 2017 #23
Oh, no. Like I said, I know next to nothing on the topic. kcr Nov 2017 #25
Yes. It's already happened once, very recently in fact. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #21
How do they arrest him after he takes off if he lands in Russia or Ukraine? NightWatcher Nov 2017 #24
All international arrivals have to go through Customs including private planes. n/t tammywammy Nov 2017 #15
No customs or immigration on outbound flights madville Nov 2017 #22
Yeah that sounds like a greeeeeat idea! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #4
Time for Mueller ... GeorgeGist Nov 2017 #6
Big mistake grantcart Nov 2017 #9
He is as good as gone. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #19
Interesting Yonnie3 Nov 2017 #11
That's what I was thinking. They are probably not his properties anyway, deminks Nov 2017 #17
The indictment definitely says he used laundered money to buy luxury properties. Yonnie3 Nov 2017 #18
Crooks always win in this country, we are so corrupt. BlueJac Nov 2017 #26
Crooks with Money always win MiniMe Nov 2017 #27
Anyone taking bets on when he leaves for Russia? matt819 Nov 2017 #28

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
10. Ever flown in a private plane from a small airport?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:17 PM
Nov 2017

There is no security checkpoint and if your pilot has filed a domestic flight plan, they can change it as they go wheels up and fly internationally, right out of the country and away from law enforcement.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
14. I'm skeptical
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:28 PM
Nov 2017

Not about the no security thing, but that it's legal to just change your flight plan to international and skiddadle, without having cleared any customs. And I just googled and I'm correct.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
16. I never said it was legal. What are they going to do, arrest Manafort?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:33 PM
Nov 2017

The key word in the phrase "illegally fleeing the country to avoid prosecution" is "illegally".

kcr

(15,317 posts)
20. I don't think he should have been given bail
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:07 PM
Nov 2017

And I do think it would be much easier to leave the country via private plane for the reasons you say. I just thought you were saying that changing the plans was legal, and I have absolutely zero knowledge of that kind of thing.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
25. Oh, no. Like I said, I know next to nothing on the topic.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:27 PM
Nov 2017

But I do know it's much less restricted. I've heard crazier things that have turned out to be true, so that's probably why I read it that way.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Yes. It's already happened once, very recently in fact.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:09 PM
Nov 2017

"What are they going to do, arrest Manafort?"

Yes. It's already happened once, very recently in fact.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
24. How do they arrest him after he takes off if he lands in Russia or Ukraine?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:18 PM
Nov 2017

Or if he lands somewhere we don't know?

I think he's very likely to flee.

madville

(7,410 posts)
22. No customs or immigration on outbound flights
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:16 PM
Nov 2017

They typically only care about arrivals, not departures.

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
11. Interesting
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:19 PM
Nov 2017

Would they allow him to use the properties for bail if they suspect that they were bought with proceeds from illegal activities?

deminks

(11,014 posts)
17. That's what I was thinking. They are probably not his properties anyway,
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:49 PM
Nov 2017

if they were used for money laundering.

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
18. The indictment definitely says he used laundered money to buy luxury properties.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:04 PM
Nov 2017
https://www.justice.gov/sco is the Special Counsel's Office's page and has all the court papers that are public. I don't know if these properties are the ones they referenced.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
28. Anyone taking bets on when he leaves for Russia?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:58 PM
Nov 2017

We should get a pool going on when he leaves the country. As others have said, $11 million is chump change, especially when it’s not his money. Overall, it’s a tiny investment by Russia for Manafort to have done what he did and assured that the buffoon and chief was elected.

It will definitely be before the scheduled trial next year. The only way I think this could change is if other indictments somehow increase the flight risk and bail is revoked.

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