And to think the GOP actually impeached Bill Clinton over concentual sex.

[Chasstev365]

"It's not about sex, but about the rule of law and lying under oath", they piously told us.

Trump and Sessions have done so much worse, yet the criminal GOP cabal will tell us with a straight face, "Nope nothing to see here."

[Dr_Pretorius]

1. The republican party is the most dangerous criminal organization in the world

Thieves, gangsters, and traitors seeking only to enrich themselves and their plutocrat masters.

[dalton99a]

3. +1

[librechik]

24. +100 n/t

[davekriss]

25. + 1000

[Jarqui]

31. +10000

[pepperbear]

2. They impeached him because he lied about it.

Remember "I did not have sex with that woman."? That was the moment Ken Starr was popping champagne corks.

[LisaL]

4. And of course as we all know Trump always tells the truth. Always.

[Jarqui]

33. Pleading guilty to lying to the FBI about colluding with Russia ...

... (Flynn & Papadopoulos) ... no biggie .. it's Obama's fault!

Lie about getting a blow job ... Impeach!!!

[Roland99]

21. Ayup. Even if no collusion is found, they are ALL guilty of LYING

[rainin]

27. So perjury is a crime

when you're a democrat? sarcasm

[Lunabell]

5. It was not really consensual.

He was her boss.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

6. She initiated.

It was 100% consensual.

[loyalsister]

8. Boys will be boys?

The idea that men have no agency because they are at the mercy of their urges is a RW defense.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

10. I didnt say that, dont you dare put words in my mouth.

She initiated things, which means she consented.

Was it ethical? No.
Was it legal? Yes.

100% consensual.

[loyalsister]

11. She would have had to have more power for her behavior to have defined the situation

He had the power to resist seduction. After he didn't use his agency to say no, he and his allies mercilessly abused her.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

13. Cool story. nt

[GaryCnf]

26. Don't tip

the sacred cow.

[Lunabell]

14. He should have resisted.

He should have gotten HR involved if she initiated. He was wrong. Clinton was wrong. Franken was wrong. Trump was wrong. Conyers was wrong. Sexual harassment is wrong.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

15. I never said he was right.

It was unethical, yes. Sleeping with your subordinates is generally unethical.

But it was consensual. Both parties were OK with it.

It was not harassment (like Franken, Conyers, and Trump).

[Lunabell]

17. It was harassment

He was her boss. #metoo

[Dr Hobbitstein]

19. By definition, it is NOT harassment.

She initiated the relationship. He consented.

Harassment implies it is unwelcome. It was not.

[Lunabell]

22. Sure it was

He was her boss. He had the power. He should have been the "adult" in the room.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

49. That doesn't make it harassment.

2 consenting adults. By definition is not harassment.
Him being the boss makes it unethical, but 100% NOT harassment.

Words have meanings. I suggest a dictionary, you may learn something.

Or not.

[Lunabell]

50. It was still wrong

And he was twice her age. Disgusting behavior and yes, I also fault those who protect men like this just because of politics. #metoo

[JI7]

44. Nope , it WAS consensual. Maybe inappropriate , immoral, etc but was

Consensual

[rainin]

30. Yes. She initiated.

Totally consensual, in my view. No question.

There is the concern about the President being vulnerable to blackmail. Oops, I forgot to add, if you're a democrat.

[loyalsister]

7. She was also publicly vilified

He had the power to prevent or stop it and he didn't. She has said that the relationship was consensual, but she didn't sign up to be part of the nightmare of FBI interrogation and humiliation. She did not sign up to have to try to go about her business with the entire US population knowing the personal details of her sex life.

Powerful aggressors use threats and promises to control people and situations. I doubt he threatened her, but he probably made promises to help advance her future career options.
I think/hope cared about her, and would not have threatened to destroy her reputation. But, what happened to her is a common threat used by perpetrators of sexual abuse.

She faced ruthless public shaming and scapegoating while allies and supporters in the general public rallied around him. That he did not prevent or step in to stop the brutal harassment she faced was cruel.

[TexasBushwhacker]

20. She can blame Linda Tripp for that

and she can blame herself for talking about it. Sorry, but there's a big difference between a victim and a volunteer.

[loyalsister]

35. Tripp deserves blame

But, no one would have been interested in those tapes if he hadn't lied. Mr. I feel your pain basked in his approval ratings while she was mercilessly smeared. He has never taken responsibility for his part and apologized for the abuse he stood by and watched her endure to his benefit.

[joshcryer]

37. Huh? They spent tens of millions investigating the Clintons.

Ken Starr alone investigated the Clinton's for the better part of a decade and the only thing they could get to stick was by trapping him in a situation where he would have to lie about his infidelity.

[loyalsister]

40. If he hadn't lied there would have been no perjury to investigate

Ken Starr's obvious ruthlessness was well known to him when he lied. He walked straight into it and then watched as his friends and callous supporters destroyed her reputation.

[joshcryer]

41. What reptuation?

She had affairs before Clinton and watched Day's of Our Lives, going on daddy's $20k vacations, driving Mercedes. An admitted serial liar, said so by herself on tape. That's her accomplishment in life. Have you not listened to the tape Tripp made? Lewinsky was a vindictive piece of work. But Tripp played her like a fiddle (by recording those private conversations).

The reality is that Bill Clinton tried to end the affair privately and she decided to take him down with her, since she couldn't keep up the facade anymore.

And I'm being told here that she was victimized. My goodness. Do you take me for, as she called Bill, a "schmucko"?

[loyalsister]

43. Imagine what it might have been like to apply for a job?

Callous cheerleaders continue to ignore the fact that he could have stopped what was happening to her. Protect the powerful man at all costs.

[joshcryer]

48. $12 million for her book.

Her only "damage" was that she couldn't keep being a Beverly Hills gal running around in LA glitz and glamor like she did as a young woman with daddy's money. But now she can do the talking head circuit talking about how she was a poor victimized girl when in reality she was a spoiled rich brat who had affairs with married men for thrills.

[joshcryer]

36. Linda Tripp got her involved in the nightmare.

And the whole right wing apparatus.

She still blames the Clintons.

If Clinton made "promises to help advance her future career options" she never said a damn thing about it in her book. She makes herself out to be a doting young woman dazzled by the handsome President.

[loyalsister]

38. She has enough compassion to not smear him

and not reveal all details. Linda Tripp and her tapes were of no consequence without his lie.

[joshcryer]

39. Are you kidding me?

She literally rolled out her book during his wife's historic campaign and ran the circuit playing victim. She never at any point placed the blame where it belongs, with the right wing.

[JI7]

45. He didn't have the power to control the right wing and THEY are the ones to blame

[kskiska]

9. He did try to stop it

That's when she began making threats. The agreement at the beginning was that either one could opt out, but when he tried, she didn't want it to end. That's when she was sent to work at the Pentagon.

[MountCleaners]

32. In either case,

...it was a dumb thing to do, and both parties used extremely poor judgment. Given the right's rabid nature, they should have refrained from doing anything that would give them ammunition.

[joshcryer]

42. That "Schmucko" "principle of the United states" sure got what he deserved.

[L. Coyote]

12. consensual -- derived from consent, consensus

[kairos12]

18. Only want him on the cover when he's frog-marched out of the WH.

[kairos12]

16. Rule of law applies only to the takers. Not to the Reich Wing. Their actions speak to this everyday.

[lindysalsagal]

23. When people refuse to see gop hypocracy, they're bigots.

Because they'll back anything or anyone who goes after non-white xtian males, and gives everything to the already rich. No matter how little sense it makes.

They'll support Russia corrupting our election, and prosecute an adult blow job, because it's money, or it just doesn't matter.

[BeyondGeography]

28. I always thought it was conceptual

[Yavin4]

29. Worse. The original Special Counsel investigation had nothing to do with Bill's sex life.

It was only after the Paula Jones civil suit when Ken Starr's investigation was expanded into who Bill was fucking. That's when he lied about Monica, and was impeached after that.

[Blue_Tires]

34. They had the votes so they were going to impeach him for something

the impeachment was years in the making...

[JI7]

46. Yup. Just like they would have gone after Hillary for something else if Benghazi never happened

[Initech]

47. Yeah they impeached Clinton for sex.

Yet Trump has had accusations of sexual harassment and assault - things a hundred million times worse than what Clinton did, they are just like "whatever". Assholes.

[carterb034]

51. That's not correct is it?

I thought he was impeached for lying under oath about it.