FBI DIRECTOR who worked on Clinton probe described her as 'extremely careless'.

[OilemFirchen]

Last edited Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:53 PM - Edit history (1)

I posted this on another thread, but thought it might be useful as a standalone OP. Much is being made of this story, but it's a ginned-up "scandal" - yet another attempt to deflect attention from the Mueller investigation. Comey - no Clintonite - said the same thing in his official statement:

Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

If he disagreed, he had an obligation to correct the language. Clearly, this was the prevailing sentiment at the FBI.


On edit: As there seems to be some confusion about the intent of this post, perhaps it's because I was negligent by omission of reference to the news story to which it relates; specifically, that an alleged Clinton-supporting FBI agent changed the language about Clinton's behavior in Comey's statement from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless". The point of the OP is not to cast aspersions against Clinton but, rather, to observe that Comey himself agreed to this language. So it's not really a "scandal" - though the GOP and media would like everyone to think it is... especially today, as a distraction from a stream of actual Trump scandals.

[Xipe Totec]

1. Is there a statute in the criminal code covering extreme carelessness? nt

[StevieM]

4. No. But the description was unfair, in any event.

James Comey was extremely careless and grossly negligent.

[OilemFirchen]

5. Well, there's the ABA's Code of Professional Responsibility.

But that's neither here nor there.

This was the official language from the FBI, via the director. Clearly, the "change", allegedly to Comey's draft, was acceptable - regardless of the alleged political allegiance of the agent who allegedly changed the alleged document.

[Xipe Totec]

6. So your point is... what, exactly? nt

[OilemFirchen]

11. That the allegation that a Clinton-friendly agent changed Comey's language is simply chin music.

Because Comey agreed with the description of Clinton's conduct.

Note also that this agent was fired for, ostensibly, anti-Trump behavior. So if Comey (or the other agents working on the draft of the statement) felt that the language, because of its author, was deferential to Clinton he had every opportunity to change it.

We also don't know, BTW, if the more harsh description of Clinton's behavior was Comey's or that of another agent. Thus, the "alleged" ad nauseum.

[Sugarcoated]

2. You should change that title

[OilemFirchen]

3. Why?

[Sugarcoated]

9. Because it looks like you're bashing her

when the point you're making is that this is a ginned up "scandal" to deflect

[OilemFirchen]

12. I don't read it that way. Sorry.

I simply copied the beginning of another OP title and changed "agent" to "director". Was the other OP perceived as bashing Clinton?

[Sugarcoated]

16. Your title: FBI DIRECTOR who worked on Clinton probe described her as 'extremely careless'.

Where in that title indicates anything about it being a phony "scandal" and a distraction?

[OilemFirchen]

17. I've added an explanation to my OP.

I assumed that posters would understand that it was in reference to the news story about an alleged Clinton-supporting FBI agent changing language to benefit her.

My apologies for that assumption. That said, the title is a riff, and I don't have a problem with it.

[Sugarcoated]

20. No need to apologize to me, I'm just pointing out

that it's very misleading.

[malaise]

7. As Comey said under oath

Hillary Clinton did not lie to the FBI - fugg 'em!

[Bettie]

8. Fer fuck's sake

every last one of us have things that seemed like they were working well at the time and later turned out to be a bad idea.

The fault there was with State not having rules in place for electronic communications. Had there been standards and guidelines she'd have followed them, so, in the end, she did nothing illegal, against the rules or wrong.

[milestogo]

10. From what I've heard, she was extremely careless -

Careless in contrast to the level of IT Security practiced in corporate culture.

[Xipe Totec]

13. Yea. Like Uber.

Hackers plundered the personal data of 57 million Uber customers and drivers — but the app-based cab company covered up the breach for a year, paying the pirates to keep quiet instead, according to a new report.

Names, email addresses and phone numbers for 50 million riders and info from 7 million drivers were exposed in the October 2016 hack — and the company learned about it a month later, Bloomberg reports.

But instead of reporting the breach to regulators or victims, the company acquiesced to the hackers’ demands for $100,000 to delete the data, according to the report.

Uber officials now admit the company should’ve come clean at the time.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/21/uber-paid-100k-ransom-after-57m-accounts-were-hacked/

[milestogo]

15. No, like most corporations, which take customer data very seriously.

[Xipe Totec]

18. LOL!

I've been a data processing analyst for over 40 years, in multiple industries, in multiple companies.

What you describe is a fiction of your ignorance.

[Demsrule86]

19. Her server was the only one not hacked ...state was hacked several times...so you heard wrong.

State has horrible internet...as does most Government agencies...and right now they are using private internet... I am sure the AOL is really safe and all (sarcasm).

[Irish_Dem]

14. FBI is extremely careless to have backed Trump who is now tearing them to shreds. nt