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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:49 PM Dec 2017

Surprise! McConnell just broke all those promises Susan Collins got in exchange for her tax vote

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Surprise! McConnell just broke all those promises Susan Collins got in exchange for her tax vote
By Joan McCarter
Monday Dec 04, 2017 · 4:38 PM EST


Remember when Maine Sen. Susan Collins was pretending like she really didn't want to pass a massive tax bill to reward Republicans’ big corporate donors? When she was extracting promises from Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, promises that everyone knew he could not keep? But he made them, all right. And then promptly broke them.




The link there is to the House’s short-term funding bill that Congress is going to pass—or try to pass—before the final vote on the tax bill. Remember when we said that McConnell couldn’t make promises for the House? Yeah, that. You already know what’s not in it: everything that Collins said McConnell promised was going to happen in exchange for her vote.

Collins isn’t stupid, she knew there was no value in any of what McConnell was promising, and probably also knows that even were the fixes to the Affordable Care Act that are in Alexander-Murray and reinsurance passed, they wouldn’t counteract the dire impact that repealing the individual mandate is going to have on the law.

No, she’s not stupid, but she hopes the American people are. She hopes that we’re dumb enough to believe that she was dumb enough to be snookered by McConnell. We’re not.

THE FIGHT IS NOT OVER! Republicans must still pass a final version of the tax scam bill through both the House and the Senate. We can still stop this. Call your members AGAIN TODAY at (202) 224-3121.
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Surprise! McConnell just broke all those promises Susan Collins got in exchange for her tax vote (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2017 OP
Sounds like because of the AMT capital gains screw up exboyfil Dec 2017 #1
Notice... pbmus Dec 2017 #2
You mean his little autograph wasn't legally binding? dalton99a Dec 2017 #3
Cowardice and cluelessness. What a lightweight! oasis Dec 2017 #4
well, then we can expect her to vote no when it comes back to the senate spanone Dec 2017 #5
She would vote No SCantiGOP Dec 2017 #30
let's hope so. spanone Dec 2017 #31
I think Flake is a more likely no vote than McCain. StevieM Dec 2017 #32
Thats what I think SCantiGOP Dec 2017 #33
CALL THEM 2 X A DAY at least. SLAM THEIR PHONE LINES. Suggestions: CousinIT Dec 2017 #6
I remember the stories of how she was cheered in the Portland airport when dem4decades Dec 2017 #7
this bluestarone Dec 2017 #8
Democrats need to prioritize taking that seat Yavin4 Dec 2017 #9
her term is up in two 2020. MarianJack Dec 2017 #25
I'm not surprised ornotna Dec 2017 #10
Did you see her on MTP this weekend? Chuck Todd asked her about her no doc03 Dec 2017 #11
Chuckie is such a shill. Did he ask when was the last time that "economic growth" was enough to dem4decades Dec 2017 #14
I think he did pretty well he said even by the most rosy scenario the debt doc03 Dec 2017 #15
Trickle down "makes jobs and stimulates economy"..... Ha! Beartracks Dec 2017 #35
Don't they have a chance to vote on the final bill? Kablooie Dec 2017 #12
I thought so, but TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #13
If Republicans can get the bill out of committee, yes mythology Dec 2017 #16
Shocker. Solly Mack Dec 2017 #17
Many will regret their votes n/t Alea Dec 2017 #18
they don't need her vote on any final bill anyway, so it is a moot point. Takket Dec 2017 #19
K & R Duppers Dec 2017 #20
Somehow I doubt that Collins will be complaining about it. Autumn Dec 2017 #21
So Susan, when you look in the mirror gratuitous Dec 2017 #22
Well that was quick CanonRay Dec 2017 #23
Hello from Winthrop, Maine. MarianJack Dec 2017 #24
GOP can't put this bill back into the Senate so the House is going to have to pass the Senates bill TeamPooka Dec 2017 #26
Is she purposely clueless or outright evil?!1 UTUSN Dec 2017 #27
Republicans aren't using bombs guns or knives. But, they will be killing people by the thousands mucifer Dec 2017 #28
Like someone else once said.... marble falls Dec 2017 #29
Question, will the full Senate get to vote on the reconciliation? still_one Dec 2017 #34
The Senate must vote again if the House changes the Senate bill in any way. nt. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #37
Thanks. Then there is still a chance unless the House accepts the Senate version that this still still_one Dec 2017 #38
Yep. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #39
Hey, Susan! Efilroft Sul Dec 2017 #36

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
1. Sounds like because of the AMT capital gains screw up
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:52 PM
Dec 2017

that it will have to be voted on again. Is another vote available? Go to work on Flake.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
30. She would vote No
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:14 PM
Dec 2017

Everything I read that she said about her deal with the party leadership indicated that her vote was dependent on that.
And i’ve read some (unverified) speculation that McCain might vote No again because of the Obamacare sabotage.
That would give you 3 No’s if Corker held and the bill would die.

I like this story....

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
32. I think Flake is a more likely no vote than McCain.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:18 PM
Dec 2017

It is possible that the Bill is defeated after it comes back from conference committee.

Also, it might be hard for the House to pass the Senate bill, word for word, given the mistakes the Senate GOP made in drafting the legislation, especially as it pertains to the Alternative Minimum Tax.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
33. Thats what I think
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:22 PM
Dec 2017

They’ll get it through the committee but it might be in a form that one of the bodies won’t support. There are still some hardcore deficit hawks in the House who might defect if it gets even more expensive.
I’ll keep this in my thoughts and prayers.

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
7. I remember the stories of how she was cheered in the Portland airport when
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:00 PM
Dec 2017

she returned after the Healthcare vote.

They should be there to boo her now, she deserves it. And it should be on the news.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
25. her term is up in two 2020.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:55 PM
Dec 2017

Sadly, her 2014 opponent, Shenna Bellows, is a personal friend of mine and my current state senator. I frequently ask people how Collins was so much better exactly HOW?

PEACE!

doc03

(35,348 posts)
11. Did you see her on MTP this weekend? Chuck Todd asked her about her no
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:06 PM
Dec 2017

vote for the Obama Stimulus plan, she says it raised the debt. He ask her how she could vote for the GOP tax scam
when it increases the debt by $1 trillion. She tied herself in knots trying say the economic growth will cancel that out.
All we have heard from Republicons since Reagan is blaming Democrats for the debt now they don't matter.

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
14. Chuckie is such a shill. Did he ask when was the last time that "economic growth" was enough to
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:12 PM
Dec 2017

offset deficits.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
15. I think he did pretty well he said even by the most rosy scenario the debt
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:20 PM
Dec 2017

would increase by $500 billion. She repeated the same bs about how it will make jobs and stimulate the economy.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
35. Trickle down "makes jobs and stimulates economy"..... Ha!
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:30 PM
Dec 2017

How do Republican politicians even pretend to believe this? There is no track record of it working anywhere but in their fantasies.

And Republican voters: same critique. The theory of "the rich will create jobs if we just pay them enough!!!11!!" is the stuff of bullshit legend.

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MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
24. Hello from Winthrop, Maine.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:50 PM
Dec 2017

I can attest that the "gloriously moderate" Susan Collins, while casting some good votes, essentially has a spine of oatmeal.

She is also now serving her 4th of the 2 terms she pledged to serve when she was first elected.

PEACE!

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
26. GOP can't put this bill back into the Senate so the House is going to have to pass the Senates bill
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:56 PM
Dec 2017

There will be no conference for changes.
The Senate GOP can't do it again from a political point of view.
They gonna let us rain a storm of calls on them again and maybe win this time?
No.

mucifer

(23,550 posts)
28. Republicans aren't using bombs guns or knives. But, they will be killing people by the thousands
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:01 PM
Dec 2017

soon from lack of healthcare and food.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
38. Thanks. Then there is still a chance unless the House accepts the Senate version that this still
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:32 AM
Dec 2017

Might go down

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