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RandySF

(58,900 posts)
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:55 PM Dec 2017

Trump Mulls Creating Private Spy Network

“The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies,” The Intercept reports.

“The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering ‘deep state’ enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump’s presidency.”

Said one former intelligence official: “Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,”


https://politicalwire.com/2017/12/04/trump-mulls-creating-private-spy-network/

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Trump Mulls Creating Private Spy Network (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2017 OP
What a farking nitemare this has become Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #1
Let's see here jmowreader Dec 2017 #2
Time to mobilize folks. This is def fascist shit. YOHABLO Dec 2017 #3
His own private SS, paid for by US taxpayers of course JDC Dec 2017 #4
It would have to be funded by Congress. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #34
You nailed it Achilleaze Dec 2017 #57
Nazis. n/t Girard442 Dec 2017 #5
That's exactly it. rockfordfile Dec 2017 #44
Gun ownership will be the canary in the coal mine. roamer65 Dec 2017 #6
That is probably the ONE thing Mariana Dec 2017 #26
In this case, the gun owners are like his personal militia. Not like Germany, in that sense. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #29
Precisely. All Trump has to do is declare them the Home Guard... VOX Dec 2017 #43
Uh-oh. Secret police, Stasi, Gestapo? brush Dec 2017 #7
Hitler created a parallel court system in Germany because he didn't like the existing and legal one jalan48 Dec 2017 #8
+1 yes it does unfortunately lunasun Dec 2017 #13
It IS what we have been warned against. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2017 #23
Yep JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #52
Imagine Mad Magazine's Spy versus Spy ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #9
The madman is going to kill So many people. Save us Mr. Mueller. sarcasmo Dec 2017 #10
This screams illegal Gestapo!! Duppers Dec 2017 #11
Combine treason, paranoia and fascism, and you get yourself the Trump administration. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #12
Directed by Vladimir Putin, operated by Erik Prince, paid for by U.S. taxpayers dalton99a Dec 2017 #14
This will be on their letterhead. alfredo Dec 2017 #15
Putin worked with them in Dresden dalton99a Dec 2017 #19
If this is true, it confirms the worst fears about trump. alfredo Dec 2017 #59
Smells like shadowmayor Dec 2017 #16
Oh, this has Bannon writen all over it. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #46
...a global, private spy network... GReedDiamond Dec 2017 #17
It's a given dalton99a Dec 2017 #18
Yeah, but tell that to Lyin' Ryan and McTurtleman...nt GReedDiamond Dec 2017 #21
Lee Mercer eye spy national and international. All three. Jeb madinmaryland Dec 2017 #20
Good ol' Lee Mercer was way ahead of Trump dalton99a Dec 2017 #22
More of the Privatizing of the democratic government MarcA Dec 2017 #24
SMH Solly Mack Dec 2017 #25
I wonder what SMH means. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #27
It means shaking my head. Solly Mack Dec 2017 #33
SMH means Shaking My Head, while SMDH means... The_REAL_Ecumenist Dec 2017 #48
This is anti-American and hostile to the country. OMG. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #28
Who will rid me of this flammable Reichstag? dchill Dec 2017 #30
Sounds like he's building up capabilities for a coup! Kablooie Dec 2017 #31
The coup has already taken place. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #41
Agreed. Despite growing resistance, 45 & Co. are still holding the reins. VOX Dec 2017 #45
Plus 1000000 n/t JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #53
Someone better tell Sarandon, Greenwald and all the other stevenleser Dec 2017 #32
I don't disagree but . . . JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #54
We gotta protest this nonsense. We already have well qualified intelligence agencies, just iluvtennis Dec 2017 #35
If this entity comes into being I would be happy if stealing our money stevenleser Dec 2017 #39
Describes the SS pretty well. JohnnyRingo Dec 2017 #36
Hey they could give it a snappy name like..oh..the SS! workinclasszero Dec 2017 #37
This is officially the most frightening thing a US President has ever publicly contemplated stevenleser Dec 2017 #38
Ladies and Gentlemen... Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #40
What the ..... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #42
Warning: Post Contains Netflix Show Spoilers! Spoiler Alert!! ("Berlin Station" Season 2) Ezior Dec 2017 #47
He's gonna make us love him... Buns_of_Fire Dec 2017 #49
Erik Prince is a dangerous character. democratisphere Dec 2017 #50
This is not normal JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #51
Oh, its pretty normal... TDale313 Dec 2017 #55
How legit is this? TDale313 Dec 2017 #56
The Putincept can chew on it for all I fucking care... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #58
How Nixonian Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #60
There's too much cash to be had in the Middle East... AntiFascist Dec 2017 #61
Instead of the Brown Shirts they will be the Orange Shirts Martin Eden Dec 2017 #62

JDC

(10,129 posts)
4. His own private SS, paid for by US taxpayers of course
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:05 AM
Dec 2017

To suggest that the would counter the "deep state" is Orwellian. It gets no more dangerous than this.

On the up side, I am sure would call themselves something catchy, like:

The Bureau of Freedom and Democracy aka: The BFD

<or>

The Free and Fair Intelligence Agency - neither of which it would be.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
34. It would have to be funded by Congress.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:46 AM
Dec 2017

I don't think a private spy service is compatible with our Constitution.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. Gun ownership will be the canary in the coal mine.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:11 AM
Dec 2017

They will need to end it for a secret police to spread their terror effectively.

Equivalent of Hitler’s “Enabling Act”.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
26. That is probably the ONE thing
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:03 AM
Dec 2017

maybe the ONLY thing that would make Trump's worshipers turn on him. I think they would, in a heartbeat, if he tried to do that. The gun fetish is just too powerful.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. In this case, the gun owners are like his personal militia. Not like Germany, in that sense.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:07 AM
Dec 2017

As Trump says, he could shoot someone, and they'd still support him. The gun owners are part of his base. There are some gun owners who are not, but most of them are, I'm pretty sure.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
43. Precisely. All Trump has to do is declare them the Home Guard...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:14 AM
Dec 2017

And they can play paramilitary dress-up every day.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
8. Hitler created a parallel court system in Germany because he didn't like the existing and legal one
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:13 AM
Dec 2017

It is considered one of the important steps in the rise of Fascism in Germany. This ploy sounds eerily familiar.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
46. Oh, this has Bannon writen all over it.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:25 AM
Dec 2017

They say Twitler talks to him daily. You know Bannon is getting a little worried about his Master Plan going up in smoke. Mueller is too damned close to breaking up his private Nazi hierarchy. Bannon knows they must move quickly to establish his Waffen-SS before the entire scheme falls apart.

I'm not a religious man.....but God help us.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
20. Lee Mercer eye spy national and international. All three. Jeb
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:39 AM
Dec 2017

Jeb Bush all up in your house with disease.

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
22. Good ol' Lee Mercer was way ahead of Trump
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:42 AM
Dec 2017
9. To prove that every person in the United States and world is hooked up on an Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) Electronic surveillance hot-wires approved by the United States Congress for the U.S. Government Electronic Surveillance of every citizen in America for government intelligence circumstances will equal to the United States Government’s Technocracy.

10. To prove the United States of America has two Governments and they are Government #1 and Government #2 and I own Government # 1 a Private Ownership named Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) a Government of all the Intelligence agencies in The United States of America and in All International Countries in the World a Nationalization in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

11. To prove the United States of America has two Presidents and I am one of them Jurisdiction in Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) Government # 1 in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
24. More of the Privatizing of the democratic government
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:57 AM
Dec 2017

More opposition and civil disobedience in order.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
31. Sounds like he's building up capabilities for a coup!
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:24 AM
Dec 2017

They wouldn't be bound by law the way the government agencies are.

Shades of Hitler!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
45. Agreed. Despite growing resistance, 45 & Co. are still holding the reins.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:22 AM
Dec 2017

Anyone who doesn’t take seriously the existential threat to the country that this mis-administration poses, is sadly under-informed.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
32. Someone better tell Sarandon, Greenwald and all the other
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:37 AM
Dec 2017

“Hillary would be just as bad as Trump” folks that they just enabled the Gestapo to be created in the US

Well done morons

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
54. I don't disagree but . . .
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 05:55 AM
Dec 2017

The situation we find ourselves in now? I can't be bothered by them.

This is now the righteous and loyal Americans against an enemy from within.

Laser focus on the enemies, we can get loyalty from the others later.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
35. We gotta protest this nonsense. We already have well qualified intelligence agencies, just
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:46 AM
Dec 2017

another way for this rich crooks to steal money from the US taxpayers.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
36. Describes the SS pretty well.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:47 AM
Dec 2017

The Fuhrer's personal enforcement division.
Figures Ollie North's involved. Somebody stop this cretin.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
37. Hey they could give it a snappy name like..oh..the SS!
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:56 AM
Dec 2017

Yeah that's the ticket.


And some scary symbols to terrorize enemies of the fuhrer...er...Trump I mean.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
38. This is officially the most frightening thing a US President has ever publicly contemplated
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:56 AM
Dec 2017

Nothing else is really close.

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
40. Ladies and Gentlemen...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:03 AM
Dec 2017

We are now witnessing the death of the United States of America. If Robert Mueller doesn't step it up and if the NSA and FBI don't step up to release whatever they may have on Trump and his minions/owners, all will be lost. We can no longer rely on corporate media. If there are any people of principle left in this country they need to speak up now.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
42. What the .....
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:14 AM
Dec 2017


Sure, let's have this administration have it's own spy agency/police force. You know, kind of a like the Waffen-SS in Nazi Germany. No harm in that, right? For those of you who didn't get the gist of my message....





Ezior

(505 posts)
47. Warning: Post Contains Netflix Show Spoilers! Spoiler Alert!! ("Berlin Station" Season 2)
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:30 AM
Dec 2017

This sounds like someone in the administration likes "Berlin Station" season 2 and is using it as a playbook. The US administration in that Netflix Show also installs their own intelligence service.

EVEN MORE SPOILERS: the new (unnamed) US administration in that show sounds like a nightmare. Among other things, they sabotage the CIA in Berlin, and they meddle in German elections to support a far-right politician, while the CIA suspects that politician to be an actual right-wing terrorist supporter.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
51. This is not normal
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 05:49 AM
Dec 2017

It's not right.
It's unAmerican.

And people get upset when I say when all is said and done - a huac isn't a bad thing.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
58. The Putincept can chew on it for all I fucking care...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:16 AM
Dec 2017

They wanted that batshit insane son of a bitch to win the election (Because, you know, *ANYBODY BUT HILLARY*, amirite?) And now they can sack up and live with the goddamned consequences...

Too many sycophants, quislings and traitors in our ranks...

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
61. There's too much cash to be had in the Middle East...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:59 PM
Dec 2017

involving LNG gas / oil fields, pipelines through Syria....Iran versus Qatar, etc. Trump already has a great working relationship with Putin and he needs his backchannels to keep everyone out of his corrupt business dealings.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
62. Instead of the Brown Shirts they will be the Orange Shirts
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 07:40 PM
Dec 2017

Then Trump and his minions can quickly change into orange jump suits when the time comes.

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