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The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, The Intercept reports.
The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering deep state enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trumps presidency.
Said one former intelligence official: Pompeo cant trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,
https://politicalwire.com/2017/12/04/trump-mulls-creating-private-spy-network/
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)jmowreader
(50,559 posts)We have a CIA Director who doesn't trust his own agency. Full stop.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)JDC
(10,129 posts)To suggest that the would counter the "deep state" is Orwellian. It gets no more dangerous than this.
On the up side, I am sure would call themselves something catchy, like:
The Bureau of Freedom and Democracy aka: The BFD
<or>
The Free and Fair Intelligence Agency - neither of which it would be.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)I don't think a private spy service is compatible with our Constitution.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)The KGOP republican, Inc. Goon Squad against America
Girard442
(6,075 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)They will need to end it for a secret police to spread their terror effectively.
Equivalent of Hitlers Enabling Act.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)maybe the ONLY thing that would make Trump's worshipers turn on him. I think they would, in a heartbeat, if he tried to do that. The gun fetish is just too powerful.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)As Trump says, he could shoot someone, and they'd still support him. The gun owners are part of his base. There are some gun owners who are not, but most of them are, I'm pretty sure.
VOX
(22,976 posts)And they can play paramilitary dress-up every day.
brush
(53,787 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)It is considered one of the important steps in the rise of Fascism in Germany. This ploy sounds eerily familiar.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)He is doing an end run against all of our Gov't agencies.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)This is the breaking point.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)That, I think, is what these idiots could muster.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)dalton99a
(81,515 posts)alfredo
(60,074 posts)dalton99a
(81,515 posts)alfredo
(60,074 posts)shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Bannon
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)They say Twitler talks to him daily. You know Bannon is getting a little worried about his Master Plan going up in smoke. Mueller is too damned close to breaking up his private Nazi hierarchy. Bannon knows they must move quickly to establish his Waffen-SS before the entire scheme falls apart.
I'm not a religious man.....but God help us.
GReedDiamond
(5,313 posts)...composed of Putin/Russian operatives.
Count on it.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)GReedDiamond
(5,313 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Jeb Bush all up in your house with disease.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)10. To prove the United States of America has two Governments and they are Government #1 and Government #2 and I own Government # 1 a Private Ownership named Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) a Government of all the Intelligence agencies in The United States of America and in All International Countries in the World a Nationalization in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.
11. To prove the United States of America has two Presidents and I am one of them Jurisdiction in Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) Government # 1 in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)More opposition and civil disobedience in order.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Wonder no more.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(722 posts)Shaking My DAMN Head..
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)dchill
(38,503 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)They wouldn't be bound by law the way the government agencies are.
Shades of Hitler!
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)A privatized spy network would be designed to MAINTAIN the coup.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Anyone who doesnt take seriously the existential threat to the country that this mis-administration poses, is sadly under-informed.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Hillary would be just as bad as Trump folks that they just enabled the Gestapo to be created in the US
Well done morons
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)The situation we find ourselves in now? I can't be bothered by them.
This is now the righteous and loyal Americans against an enemy from within.
Laser focus on the enemies, we can get loyalty from the others later.
iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)another way for this rich crooks to steal money from the US taxpayers.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)was all that they did.
JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)The Fuhrer's personal enforcement division.
Figures Ollie North's involved. Somebody stop this cretin.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Yeah that's the ticket.
And some scary symbols to terrorize enemies of the fuhrer...er...Trump I mean.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Nothing else is really close.
Mr. Evil
(2,845 posts)We are now witnessing the death of the United States of America. If Robert Mueller doesn't step it up and if the NSA and FBI don't step up to release whatever they may have on Trump and his minions/owners, all will be lost. We can no longer rely on corporate media. If there are any people of principle left in this country they need to speak up now.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)Sure, let's have this administration have it's own spy agency/police force. You know, kind of a like the Waffen-SS in Nazi Germany. No harm in that, right? For those of you who didn't get the gist of my message....
Ezior
(505 posts)This sounds like someone in the administration likes "Berlin Station" season 2 and is using it as a playbook. The US administration in that Netflix Show also installs their own intelligence service.
EVEN MORE SPOILERS: the new (unnamed) US administration in that show sounds like a nightmare. Among other things, they sabotage the CIA in Berlin, and they meddle in German elections to support a far-right politician, while the CIA suspects that politician to be an actual right-wing terrorist supporter.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)It's not right.
It's unAmerican.
And people get upset when I say when all is said and done - a huac isn't a bad thing.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)For fascist dictators.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)And no, it would not surprise me. If accurate, this is terrifying.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)They wanted that batshit insane son of a bitch to win the election (Because, you know, *ANYBODY BUT HILLARY*, amirite?) And now they can sack up and live with the goddamned consequences...
Too many sycophants, quislings and traitors in our ranks...
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,033 posts)And how suicidal if he dare try
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)involving LNG gas / oil fields, pipelines through Syria....Iran versus Qatar, etc. Trump already has a great working relationship with Putin and he needs his backchannels to keep everyone out of his corrupt business dealings.
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)Then Trump and his minions can quickly change into orange jump suits when the time comes.