I'm not all that worried about the tax bill

[Kaleva]

The concessions made to gain passage in the Senate won't fly in the House. My guess is that whatever comes out of conference will turn off enough Repubs in either chamber to prevent passage of the final bill.

This is not to say people shouldn't call, fax, e-mail or meet in person their rep or senator and voice opposition because one should. Especially those who have a Repub rep or senator who is considered to be moderate.

But I am saying that people shouldn't get down and out over the recent passage in the Senate. The Repubs are still far away from an actual victory and the hard part for them is yet to come.

[Achilleaze]

1. And, of course, Mercury is retrograde...

Ain't over till it's over.

[SoCalMusicLover]

2. I Disagree

I think that after a few days in conference, they will have the House pass the Senate version as is, so it does not have to go back to Senate.

[Demsrule86]

8. I don't know they will get the votes...and if they do..then corps have to pay

20% the way it is written...AMT.

[SoCalMusicLover]

10. They Will Take The Triple

They would rather hit a home run in house, but the Senate Rape Bill will suffice.

[Demsrule86]

13. The businesses will pay more taxes under the Senate bill. And I am not sure this

bill can pass the house.

[Demsrule86]

15. We will see...I am not sure. That Freedom caucus can be brutal.

And I hear the entire California delegation will walk if they don't put the tax break for deducting state and property taxes back in the bill...there are enough of them to stop the bill from going anywhere...but if they put it back, they lose conservative votes.

[OliverQ]

3. They'll pass it. Republicans in the House don't care about concessions

they'll cave just to get anything passed.

[Demsrule86]

9. No, the House has shown extreme stubbornness so I don't agree.

We can stop this if we work at it...and don't be so down in the mouth...we may lose, but I will go down fighting.

[Orrex]

4. Maybe we'll hear again about the heroic mavericks McCain and Collins

They voted for it before they were against it, you know...

[Vinca]

5. In the end they're lemmings who will follow Don over the cliff.

But it doesn't hurt if anyone with a GOP fool in Congress calls and carps about the deficit. They don't care about your medical deductions or education deductions or that you might end up paying more. They do care about their images and they've portrayed themselves as budget hawks for decades.

[NCTraveler]

6. This is now about a show.

They will happily word a few things in a different manner and it’s over. It passed as a fat cat give-away. That was the tough part for them and they did it. Perception is reality.

[Demsrule86]

7. We need to call...and call.

[DeminPennswoods]

11. The big problem will be in the Senate

First, there's the Reconcilliation rules. If the 20% corporate AMT is removed, that could push the cost over the 1.5T threashhold making the bill need 60 votes to pass. Otherwise there will have to more deductions reduced/cancelled and/or one or more of the goodies promised to Collins, Johnson, Flake, etc, to get their votes might have to be dropped. If Jones were to win the AL special election, it would make things even more dicey.

Second, you have the rw nuts Freedom Caucus in the house. They're personally invested in the bill and might not agree to changes.

Third you have the high property state/local tax represenatives in CA, NY, NJ, etc. Drop the state and local tax deduction and they immediately become endangered species. This is especially true in CA now that it has "jungle" primaries. The one thing that seems true of all Rs is, they don't like gov't and they can't govern, but they do like holding on to their gov't jobs.

This bill has a lot of moving parts and the conference report could be a tough sell to one or both of the chambers.

[fishwax]

12. I think keeping the pressure on is important so that they don't simply adopt the senate bill

If they make any changes to it, I think they'll have a very difficult time getting it back through the senate. But if they adopt the senate bill, the final defense will be the house, and we would need, what, 23 republicans to defect (and that's if we hold 100% on our side)? That's a scary prospect.

[Joe941]

14. I agree - we beat the repeal of ACA and this will be the same.