Oliver North urging White House to build private spy army overseen by Betsy DeVos brother: reports

[workinclasszero]

Oliver North urging White House to build private spy army overseen by Betsy DeVos’ brother: reports
Travis Gettys 05 DEC 2017 AT 07:10 ET


The Trump administration is considering a scheme by a cast of shady characters to build a private network of spies to bypass U.S. intelligence services.

Blackwater founder Erik Prince and retired CIA officer John Maguire developed the plan, which was pitched to the administration by Iran-Contra figure Oliver North, reported The Intercept.

Sources told the website the plan would give the White House a way to counter “deep state” political enemies in the intelligence community and give the CIA director an army of spies with no official cover in countries such as North Korea and Iran, which are considered “denied areas” for American covert operations.

The Intercept report builds on reporting last week by Buzzfeed News.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/oliver-north-urging-white-house-to-build-private-spy-army-overseen-by-betsy-devos-brother-reports/

[brooklynite]

1. Maybe call them "plumbers"?

[csziggy]

2. Blackwater Plumbing has a nice sound to it! ;)

[Kber]

3. Because gestapo has been used already

[CanonRay]

30. +1

[pangaia]

5. Much, much worse than that. Better call it the STASI, or KGB.

THIS is serious shit...

[Turn CO Blue]

19. Ha! I see what you did there. We just watched "All the President's Men" last night

And then I read all the entries about Watergate and Nixon's dirty tricksters on historycommons.org until late into the night.

The parallels are uncanny.

[NCjack]

31. They need a motto to provide focus. How about

Anything, anywhere, anytime for our Trumpenfueher.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. Says The Felon Who Skated?

He committed a major felony. Who cares what he thinks?

[dembotoz]

6. secret operations can be expensive with little oversight....lets loot the treasurey some more

[Bleacher Creature]

7. The WH is receptive to an idea from Ollie North. Just let that sink in. NT

[niyad]

36. it sank all the way to the pit of my stomach. absolutely frightening.

[Turbineguy]

8. There will be plenty of applicants.

Right wing death squads, a dream come true.

[2naSalit]

9. Saw that coming...

waaaay back during "Shock & Awe". Heads up, boys and girls, it CAN and IS happening here.

[Pachamama]

10. An Endorsement from an Expert in illegal activities - what could go wrong?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

11. Well, that's not creepy in the least bit. nt

[disillusioned73]

12. Jeremy Scahill from the Intercept

has been onto these shenanigans for some time.. tons of articles about this creatin Eric Prince, this has been in the works for a while..

[link:https://theintercept.com/2017/01/17/notorious-mercenary-erik-prince-is-advising-trump-from-the-shadows/|

[Demsrule86]

13. I don't like the intercept much but this is interesting.

[mopinko]

14. how is this not treason?

i just dont get it. how do you stand up your own private army and not be guilty of flat out treason?

[sofa king]

15. If it is treason, there's a hell of a lot of it in our history.

The US has used some version of a "private spy army" to try to knock over and establish new governments from West Florida to the Bay of Pigs to Afghanistan.

There might not be a period in US history where the US was not fostering some secret, possibly illegal, covert operation against perceived enemies, foreign and especially domestic.

[mopinko]

17. "to bypass U.S. intelligence services."

that makes it war on our own government. that would be treason.

[sofa king]

18. Maybe....

... But of course that's exactly what Ollie North did, and got away with it, and was rewarded for it. And that's exactly what the Bush the Dumber Administration did, and got away with it. And that's exactly what Mike Flynn and Donald Trump did, and I guarantee you that Trump at least is going to get away with it.

You can go in the other direction all the way back to the formation of the Republican Party and its association with the Pinkerton Detective Agency, which was a private domestic spy organization that was actually in charge of US military intelligence one disastrous summer.

Like I said, it may well be treason, and though treason is a very exacting term in the US Code, it might well violate other parts of that chapter. But Republicans have been doing it and for the most part getting away with it, probably since the beginning of the Party itself.

You, uh, might also want to keep in mind that such a proposal may be a public attempt to begin acknowledging what's already going on.

[louis-t]

32. They accused Obama of the same thing.

Without any proof, of course.

[spanone]

16. trumps own political persuasion army....

FUCK oliver north

[SonofDonald]

20. "No official cover"

The same people who conspired with Russia to subvert our Democracy while using the dumbest people on earth as go-betweens and left a paper and intercepted communications trail you can see from space now think they can spy on Iran and north korea and others.

They're such master spies that they allow these obviously brilliant ideas to be leaked to the MSM and published in the national news, and when their people with " no official cover " are identified well before they arrive in country and disappear forever they'll be wondering what went wrong?.

And of course blame it on others, because as master spies it couldn't possibly be their fault, they know what they're doing.

Of course the fact that they'll be spying on Americans they don't like 24/7/365 isn't included in the story, because that's a secret, Shhhhhh.......

Ever seen the movie "Mr Bean"?, it's their blueprint as "Idiocracy" has been for how they govern.

[HughBeaumont]

21. Oh, look, Mr. High Treason Accomplice himself speaks.

Why aren't you rotting in prison, Oilly?

[Initech]

39. The right is convinced he's a "patriot".

[DBoon]

22. Wasn't there a German word for this type of organization

You know, a secretive, extra legal organization charge with spying on citizens and brutally enforcing its will outside the legal system?

Didn't they have these very fashionable uniforms designed by Hugo Boss?

[Duppers]

24. Gestapo?

Horribly dangerous to what's left of our democracy. And unconstitutional, I would think.

[mikeysnot]

27. Schutzstaffel

Was their version of the Secret Police, protective echelon....

[Egnever]

23. Considering how his last stint advising the white house turned out

I find this gem absolutely shocking! shocking I tell ya!

[Perseus]

25. Ok, who is responible for lifting the rock

where Oliver North has been hiding?

[Wwcd]

26. USAKGB. Is that why Ghouliani is spending so much time in the Ukraine?

[maveric]

28. Getstapo?

Is that what they mean?

[UCmeNdc]

29. Stasi?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. Dictators, fascists & tyrants love their own personal armies and spy networks. . . . nt

[sandensea]

34. A drug trafficker and a Nazi walk into the White House...

[jmowreader]

35. The real issues are Trump and Pompeo

Mike Pompeo, who is Director of Central Intelligence, and Donald Trump, who is preparing for another great season of golf, do not trust our intelligence officers. Trump never has; think back to when he spoke at CIA headquarters and brought his own cheering section. The flipside is our intelligence officers don’t trust Trump and Pompeo.

Put yourself in the shoes of an intelligence officer. You have some very important information. It came from a collector your agency has built at great risk and expense...and if it got revealed to the general public the officers manning it would be murdered and the enemy would figure out a way to neutralize the whole operation. Under what circumstances would you give this information to a guy with terminal diarrhea of the thumbs? I know I’d be briefing Trump off nothing you couldn’t find on newspaper wire services.

The intelligence community also has this terrible habit of not telling people what they want to hear, and Trump hates that. The only solution is to create an agency that will spoon feed Trump creamed Big Macs and no vegetables.

And then you kinda have to wonder...we know Trump’s ultimate goal is to dismantle the Great Society and New Deal, and he’s going to do it by defunding the government. Creating an expensive agency while slashing taxes would go a long way toward that goal.

[niyad]

37. I imagine many graduates of the school of the americas will line up.

[Initech]

38. Sure! What could possibly go wrong?

[jayschool2013]

40. Felons

Felons flock to other felons. Can one be an ex-felon? Or is it a tag that one carries with one, forever and ever?

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