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Shell_Seas

(3,334 posts)
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:50 AM Dec 2017

Cashiers angrily told me "Merry Christmas" in a smug and self righteous way

I live in the bible belt, Texas, and in fact I live in a county that has been dubbed, Big Red. They call it Big Red because it is the most conservative large urban county in America. Throughout my whole life, I have had plenty of cashiers or people in stores say to me, "Merry Christmas," cheerfully with a smile and a wave as I finished my business with them and walked away. It never bothered me. I would usually smile and wave back and go on about my business.

However, last year it was different.

Last year, there were multiple cashiers, as I was checking out with them and nearing the end of our business transaction, they would look me dead in the eyes, and without a smile, sternly tell me, "and you have a merry Christmas." It was weird. Like the look in their eyes was not happy not a true warm wish of seasons greeting, it was like they gained some type of power now that Trump told them it was ok to say "Merry Christmas" again. And for the first time in my liberal life I was actually angry that they said it, more so that they said it like that, because I felt like it came from a place of hate. They were smug and angry all in one.

One cashier, was doing that to everyone in her line, there was about 5 or 6 people. Except there was a man in front of me that was of middle eastern dissent. When he got to her, she didn't say it to him. She told everyone in the line "Merry Christmas," except for him. I remember feeling furious about it. So when it was my turn, and she said it to me, I told her to stick it up her ass.

Anyway, this was just my observation from last year. Ironically, also, it was only cashiers at stores, like the grocery store or department store, that were doing this. Has anyone else noticed this, as well?

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Cashiers angrily told me "Merry Christmas" in a smug and self righteous way (Original Post) Shell_Seas Dec 2017 OP
I just say, thank you so much! And a Happy Hanukkah to you!! janterry Dec 2017 #1
Merry Christmas? Not with Trump in office. GreatCaesarsGhost Dec 2017 #5
It's okay janterry Dec 2017 #17
I've done that too Maeve Dec 2017 #18
If you really want to make them crazy(er) NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #25
"Happy Solstice, and have a Merry Pagan Festival!" Merlot Dec 2017 #47
I think "Bright Blessings of the Solstice" is the preferred phrase Jim Lane Dec 2017 #109
It's more effective if you say it in Gaelic...and you're drunk and naked at the time. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #126
I use Merry Holidays. safeinOhio Dec 2017 #63
You should write a letter to the better business bureau Renew Deal Dec 2017 #2
Right. I bet the store owner treestar Dec 2017 #3
I revel in the fact that they're so miserable, they can't even enjoy their favorite holiday. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #4
Indeed. Christians unable to enjoy their own major holy celebration because of hatred of others Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #13
yea and bring Pence with them bdamomma Dec 2017 #68
Or maybe they get tired of saying it Sailor65x1 Dec 2017 #6
But of course that's the narrative you promote rather. Clever. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #9
Your reply is a bit hard to follow Sailor65x1 Dec 2017 #27
Sigh. Simple decency should be simple for everyone, shouldn't it? Hortensis Dec 2017 #91
MTE. There are barely any cashiers left, and ascribing bad intentions to them for saying a common anneboleyn Dec 2017 #112
It all depends on the tone and the facial expression. Mariana Dec 2017 #127
OP described a tone and attitude treestar Dec 2017 #129
Just because he looked of middle easten desent, didin't mean he didn't celebrate Christmas. Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #20
No, it doesn't; Sailor65x1 Dec 2017 #30
Like an infinity assumption circle. Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #34
You don't know what the cashier thought and what does it mean to you to SharonClark Dec 2017 #37
I don't know. I am repeating what I've heard Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #39
Really? You heard the cashier say that because that is what you stated the cashier meant. SharonClark Dec 2017 #40
Aww. Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #85
I think we know the answer to this. Thank you for stating it. anneboleyn Dec 2017 #113
that is tRump brainwashing bdamomma Dec 2017 #69
This particular meme didn't start with Trump FiveGoodMen Dec 2017 #72
true bdamomma Dec 2017 #74
OReilly used it for years to work up his loyal viewers. anneboleyn Dec 2017 #114
Thank you ollie10 Dec 2017 #54
This year, I've had two opportunities to respond with "all holidays matter..." LanternWaste Dec 2017 #7
Good one. I have to remember that. Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #21
Idiots? SharonClark Dec 2017 #41
So people that say Merry Christmas to you are idiots? melman Dec 2017 #67
Exactly. This is ridiculous and going after cashiers really bothers me. They dont control policy anneboleyn Dec 2017 #115
I wonder if they were... 2naSalit Dec 2017 #8
I can only imagine Sailor65x1 Dec 2017 #35
That is what I was wondering Sanity Claws Dec 2017 #53
Yes. Cashiers dont just decide to do these things. If anything they were told to say it to everyone anneboleyn Dec 2017 #116
I'm not sure how I make it through each holiday season... NCTraveler Dec 2017 #10
If I know the holiday the person will celebrate, I'm specific, otherwise... Girard442 Dec 2017 #11
LOL. What did she say? 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #12
Video tape it and send it to the corporate offices. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #14
You mean like a person who would tell you to stick it up your ass? SharonClark Dec 2017 #38
Was it in retaliation to a social indiscretion? Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #48
Interestingly enough, in my heavily red upper mid- west- origin senior marybourg Dec 2017 #15
Good. Mariana Dec 2017 #62
Can they just not say, have a good day? Roland99 Dec 2017 #16
Really. Just say "Thank you for shopping at XYZ" Mariana Dec 2017 #28
If we stop to kick every little barking dog, we will never Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #19
I agree. Tell that to Trump and his followers. Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #24
You agree? Then why did you write a post about it? SharonClark Dec 2017 #42
Sharon, you seem upset Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #86
Because you attacked cashiers? That bothers me. They didnt decide to gang up on you. Why it anneboleyn Dec 2017 #117
+1. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2017 #36
And Christmas sucks for those who work in retail...I worked in retail during Christmas when I Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #137
This message was self-deleted by its author blogslut Dec 2017 #22
Cashiers gained "some type of power" from Trump "telling them" it was "OK" to say WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #23
So if a cashier is rude to you treestar Dec 2017 #130
So if a casher is a jerk, they're a right-winger? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #136
the way it was described, yes you could tell treestar Dec 2017 #138
Don't let your anger control you and make behave stupidly SharonClark Dec 2017 #26
Maybe so. I'm surrounded by conservatives all of the time, my bark has become pretty loud. Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #31
Not all those of ME 'descent' are acting to 'dissent'... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #29
I keep reading this subject line and cackling. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #32
It struck me funny too. But the whole post is actually kind of sad. Tipperary Dec 2017 #98
Very good point; you're absolutely right. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #99
I totally agree. They get horrible abuse from the public. anneboleyn Dec 2017 #119
Maybe they have been "instructed" by their employer and have to say it? Pachamama Dec 2017 #33
Maybe their boss is a rwnj DBoon Dec 2017 #57
You told a cashier who said Merry Christmas sarisataka Dec 2017 #43
Because the cashier didn't say it CHEERFULLY OR WARMLY ENOUGH. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #45
If you really want GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #44
While at work, I let the client set the tone.... BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #46
I Had It Happen To Me Once SDJay Dec 2017 #49
Oh dear. MuseRider Dec 2017 #50
Lucky thing you did not sneeze... GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #51
God forbid Egnever Dec 2017 #52
This story is missing a door buzzard, I believe. n/t FSogol Dec 2017 #59
lol treestar Dec 2017 #131
nt bdamomma Dec 2017 #73
+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2017 #104
I'd suggest switching to decaf OP inwiththenew Dec 2017 #55
Noted Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #87
Reply with Feliz Navidad JHB Dec 2017 #56
nt bdamomma Dec 2017 #71
Wow, a mind reader! Maybe those cashiers were tired? Maybe they were being sincere? FSogol Dec 2017 #58
I simply do not mind whatever holiday wishes someone offers to me. Tipperary Dec 2017 #60
I was a cashier in Texas for awhile. Mariana Dec 2017 #61
I find a simple "no" mitch96 Dec 2017 #64
Yes! ellie Dec 2017 #65
Thanks Shell_Seas Dec 2017 #88
Try reading Not Always Right.com and next time be a little nicer nadine_mn Dec 2017 #66
That website is great. Thx for the lulz. irisblue Dec 2017 #70
very good! steve2470 Dec 2017 #102
I Think I Would Have Said Something More Like. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #75
A few years ago get the red out Dec 2017 #76
When it happens this year I think you should say elehhhhna Dec 2017 #77
How do you say shove it uo your ass.. ollie10 Dec 2017 #78
Look, they're probably being forced to. Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #79
exactly! steve2470 Dec 2017 #100
Happy Festivus! lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #80
How about a thread on the airing of grievances? Bradshaw3 Dec 2017 #82
Pretty much. lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #83
I GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!! Initech Dec 2017 #111
And may the Blessings of the Yule be Upon You... The empressof all Dec 2017 #81
Have you concidered that their employer may be demanding they wish a "merryxmas" to everyone randr Dec 2017 #84
I totally believe you. Lol! n/t demmiblue Dec 2017 #89
I wish you a Cool Story Bro Dreamer Tatum Dec 2017 #90
Luckily, we don't have to deal with this nonsense here DFW Dec 2017 #92
great story! nt steve2470 Dec 2017 #96
I know someone from Penn who ate there and said the food was just incredible!! And exactly, with anneboleyn Dec 2017 #121
There aren't many of us left who were there. DFW Dec 2017 #124
How would they know you weren't a bible thumping christian that wanted to hear Merry Xmas? nini Dec 2017 #93
Personally, Glamrock Dec 2017 #94
Merry Christmas, Shell_Seas pintobean Dec 2017 #95
Really? Texasgal Dec 2017 #97
Yes, I agree. It makes me sad that people are so unhappy that they treat others poorly. Tipperary Dec 2017 #105
Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! n/t EarthFirst Dec 2017 #101
She said to me, "Have you found Jesus?" After ringing up my stuff, in blue northeast. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #103
I thought I found him in Aisle 4 Skittles Dec 2017 #120
I didn't know he was lost. It's not my day to watch him. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #122
LOL Skittles Dec 2017 #123
I might say "Happy Hanukkah, it must be strange for a Jew to wish others Merry Christmas." elfin Dec 2017 #106
20+ year retail veteran Jake Stern Dec 2017 #107
Huh, I live and work in Tarrant County. tammywammy Dec 2017 #108
Your stores still have multiple cashiers? Around here automatic checkouts took over years ago anneboleyn Dec 2017 #110
agree w/ your assessment... SWBTATTReg Dec 2017 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Dec 2017 #118
Just smile back at them and say, "Well, bless your heart. And happy holidays to you, too!" pnwmom Dec 2017 #125
I was shopping the other day... Trueblue Texan Dec 2017 #132
I know the cashier attitude you mean , smug and self righteous clerks. As a POC I get a chance lunasun Dec 2017 #133
cashiers usually smile & are nice to me. I smile and say hello, how are you-soon as it's my turn. Sunlei Dec 2017 #134
I'd have them ring me up maxrandb Dec 2017 #135

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
18. I've done that too
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:07 PM
Dec 2017

Occassionally adding "and a good Kwanzaa, happy New Year and a blessed Festival of Lights"

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
109. I think "Bright Blessings of the Solstice" is the preferred phrase
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:45 PM
Dec 2017

I'm no more a pagan or a Wiccan than I am a Christian but that's the way I recall genuine believers using it.

I like it because it sounds even more esoteric than "Happy Solstice".

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
4. I revel in the fact that they're so miserable, they can't even enjoy their favorite holiday.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:56 AM
Dec 2017


I always answer "Merry Christmas!" with "And a Happy New Year!"

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Indeed. Christians unable to enjoy their own major holy celebration because of hatred of others
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:04 PM
Dec 2017

is what they deserve. Now if we could only get them to move to their own theocratic country.

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
6. Or maybe they get tired of saying it
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:57 AM
Dec 2017

500 times a day. Maybe she doesn't like being forced to say it by her employer. Maybe she figured she could take a break with the guy who stood a good chance of not caring about hearing it. This season is particularly hard on retail employees and maybe we should be cutting them some slack

Telling her to "Stick it up her ass?" Really? Come on. Were you proud of that?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. But of course that's the narrative you promote rather. Clever.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:59 AM
Dec 2017

"Maybe she figured she could take a break with the guy who stood a good chance of not caring about hearing..."

But of course that's the narrative you promote rather. Clever... regardless of the petulant irrelevance of whether you're proud of it or not...

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
27. Your reply is a bit hard to follow
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:12 PM
Dec 2017

But, if the cashier were acting with the motivations the OP ascribed to her, then she would have made it a point TO say it to the man, not avoid saying it.

As far as proud, that's pretty simple; the OP is talking about treating this retail empoyee like shit simply because the OP decided he or she knew the cashier's motivations? The way we treat people who are in service occupations has always been considered one of the best indicators of our character.

As far as my narrative, that's pretty simple also. I deal in logic and data. The OP reached the conclusion that the man was Middle Eastern. It stands to reason the cashier reached the same conclusion. Such reason extends to the statistical probability that the man wouldn't care to hear it. Put yourself behind the counter; say you had a man standing in front of you wearing a Yarmulke. Would you take this into account and say something other than Merry Christmas, or would you ignore the obvious and say it anyway for fear of the "Narrative?:

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
91. Sigh. Simple decency should be simple for everyone, shouldn't it?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 05:09 PM
Dec 2017

I disagree that checkout lines are a proper place to engage in religious and cultural warfare. If it's offered by some ill-mannered ideologue, smother it with a peace blanket.

Since we moved to the Bible Belt, we'll respond to overtly religious people, and there are a LOT of them here, with an assumption of good will and return it with thank-yous and same-to-yous without repeating their phrases. It's plain old happy holidays most of the rest of the time.

Shell Seas, with us it was our closest supermarket. Rurally raised checkers were obviously distressed when ownership changed and they were supposed to know the names of heathen vegetables, because they were blatently smugly claiming they didn't months after the changeover. I went along for some while, inviting them to smell the raw ginger (same as grandma's ginger tea!) and talking about my favorite salad recipes for Napa cabbage. But eventually I had enough and refused to tell them the names when they claimed ignorance. Instead, it was me who looked them in the eyes and told them it was past time to go to the produce department and learn their jobs. They didn't like it one bit, but at least it put an end to it when I came through.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
112. MTE. There are barely any cashiers left, and ascribing bad intentions to them for saying a common
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:04 PM
Dec 2017

phrase just seems totally overblown. If a waitress or cashier said “merry Christmas” to us I wouldn’t think the service person was setting out to harass me — as if he or she had any clue what I believed. If ANYTHING the owner or possibly a manager directed them to say it. Treating cashiers in this way seems very problematic to me. They work for pennies and constantly take shit from customers who consider them THE decision person for the entire company. They are powerless and nowadays they don’t get health-care or anything else.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
127. It all depends on the tone and the facial expression.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:50 AM
Dec 2017

I used to live in Texas and while I was there, I was on the receiving end of an utterly nasty, hateful, snarling "Merry CHRISTmas!" more than once. Maybe you haven't noticed, but conservatives have become considerably more rude and openly hateful since Trump was elected. It is entirely possible that the cashier is a conservative Christian Trump lover who watches Fox News and listens to RW radio, and the OP interpreted the intent correctly.

Shell_Seas

(3,334 posts)
20. Just because he looked of middle easten desent, didin't mean he didn't celebrate Christmas.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:08 PM
Dec 2017

It only means that the Cashier believed all Christians were white and look American....

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
30. No, it doesn't;
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:14 PM
Dec 2017

It means that you made assumptions about what the cashier thought or believed, and you treated her badly in response to your assumptions.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
40. Really? You heard the cashier say that because that is what you stated the cashier meant.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:23 PM
Dec 2017

Or are you just making this all up because you are bored and you thought it was good click-bait?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
72. This particular meme didn't start with Trump
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:38 PM
Dec 2017

He's a monster and a danger and a big fucking baby.

But he's not the only bad guy we're dealing with.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. This year, I've had two opportunities to respond with "all holidays matter..."
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:58 AM
Dec 2017

This year, I've had two opportunities so far to respond to the idiots with "all holidays matter..."

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
35. I can only imagine
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:16 PM
Dec 2017

How often that does turn out to be exactly the case. It's also very unfair to those employees.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
53. That is what I was wondering
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

I worked retail when I was in college and the holidays were tough at times to handle.
While stores may not have as many in-store customers as before, they have fewer people on staff and many are on-call with no set hours. I imagine some people are feeling tired and resentful.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
116. Yes. Cashiers dont just decide to do these things. If anything they were told to say it to everyone
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:12 PM
Dec 2017
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. I'm not sure how I make it through each holiday season...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:01 PM
Dec 2017

Without this beast of an issue rearing it's ugly head. Then again, I've been without cable for years and that is where this war is promoted and for the most part takes place. I'm far from a hermit and just can't find anyone to fight me on this hot topic.

You could be reading this way wrong.

"Last year, there were multiple cashiers, as I was checking out with them and nearing the end of our business transaction, they would look me dead in the eyes, and without a smile, sternly tell me, "and you have a merry Christmas." It was weird. Like the look in their eyes was not happy not a true warm wish of seasons greeting, it was like they gained some type of power now that Trump told them it was ok to say "Merry Christmas" again. And for the first time in my liberal life I was actually angry that they said it, more so that they said it like that, because I felt like it came from a place of hate. They were smug and angry all in one."

They are probably severely underpaid, overworked, and are coming into the busiest time of the year. A time of year when their customer base is not at their best. People often get stressed during the holidays and take it out on people they view as "less than". Additionally, these decisions are more often than not made a little further up the chain than cashier.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
11. If I know the holiday the person will celebrate, I'm specific, otherwise...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:01 PM
Dec 2017

..."Have a good holiday." This year though, I'm not saying "Merry Christmas" to anyone now that Trump has shat on it.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,011 posts)
12. LOL. What did she say?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:01 PM
Dec 2017

I live in a very blue area and haven't noticed any aggressive Merry Christmassing. If I experienced it, I'd wish them a Happy Saturnalia in return.

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
14. Video tape it and send it to the corporate offices.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:04 PM
Dec 2017

I say Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays interchangeably. But I don't like being bullied by anyone.

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
15. Interestingly enough, in my heavily red upper mid- west- origin senior
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:05 PM
Dec 2017

community, last year the supermarket cashiers did not utter any holiday greetings at all, nor was the store decorated, nor was Christmas music played, although Halloween and Thanksgiving had been heavily promoted. It was as though the right wing had destroyed Christmas last year. Have seen and heard nothing holiday-ish so far this year. Happily!

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
62. Good.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:48 PM
Dec 2017

There is some excellent Christmas music out there, but they sure don't play it in any stores I've been in. Gawd does that music suck. But you know, I noticed a similar thing. Yesterday I was shopping in a store I used to work in. Last year and the year before, when I worked there, they started playing the shitty Christmas music the day after Thanksgiving. Yesterday, they were playing the somewhat less shitty regular music.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
28. Really. Just say "Thank you for shopping at XYZ"
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:13 PM
Dec 2017

and shut the fuck up about whatever holidays may be going on. Shit, Christmas isn't for for three weeks yet! Does anyone go around saying "Have a happy Independence Day" in the middle of June?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
19. If we stop to kick every little barking dog, we will never
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:08 PM
Dec 2017

Get to the end of the street.


This is such a little thing and we have such more important issues.

Shell_Seas

(3,334 posts)
86. Sharon, you seem upset
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:57 PM
Dec 2017

Which wasn't the point of this. I was just curious if anyone else had notice a shift in aggressive attitudes with the "We can say Merry Christmas" again, because Trump said so.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
117. Because you attacked cashiers? That bothers me. They didnt decide to gang up on you. Why it
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:16 PM
Dec 2017

wouldn’t occur to you that IF they were saying merry Christmas in an unhappy manner that they weren’t trying to be bullies — they were ordered by an owner or store manager to say it. Seems very obvious. Cashiers work hard for small amounts of money and have zero benefits these days. They are not setting policies.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
137. And Christmas sucks for those who work in retail...I worked in retail during Christmas when I
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:04 AM
Dec 2017

was in college. I probably wasn't very enthusiastic about 'merry christmas' either...although, we were taught not to use merry christmas but happy holidays... so as not to offend the non-Christians...this was before the militant faux Christians. The bottom line is maybe the person had a bad day. And as you noted this is not worth worrying about. I live in Ohio which went for Trump and have experienced none of this...in fact there seems to be a great deal of buyers remorse since the tax cut and the ACA attacks.

Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
23. Cashiers gained "some type of power" from Trump "telling them" it was "OK" to say
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:10 PM
Dec 2017

"Merry Christmas"? But I thought you said they already said Merry Christmas?

Cashiers. Gaining power. Okay.



Telling a cashier to stick it up their ass. What a hero.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
130. So if a cashier is rude to you
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:08 AM
Dec 2017

that's OK, right?

It was not about cashiers gaining power, but right-wingers gaining power. The way she said is showed she was a right-winger being a jerk about it. That's how it was described.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
138. the way it was described, yes you could tell
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:19 AM
Dec 2017

You have the right not to believe the story, but the story was not told the way people are interpreting it.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
26. Don't let your anger control you and make behave stupidly
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:11 PM
Dec 2017

Maybe the cashiers were unhappy to say it but were forced to by their boss?
Maybe the cashiers didn't want to say it to a middle eastern man because they thought it might be offensive to him?

"So when it was my turn, and she said it to me, I told her to stick it up her ass". Hum, there may have been a better response.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
98. It struck me funny too. But the whole post is actually kind of sad.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:58 PM
Dec 2017

Telling a retail person to “stick it up their ass” during this stressful time of year (or any time) is just mean.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
33. Maybe they have been "instructed" by their employer and have to say it?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:15 PM
Dec 2017

And that "gleeful look in their eye" is really them frustrated and angered that they are supposed to say that and try to sound happy and smile for the 150th time that day when they are not feeling the spirit of the holidays in light of their barely making it on minimum wage and increased costs of living?

Just like when you are told as a kid to give a hug and kiss to the creepy family friend?



Just saying....I really wouldn't read too much into this...

DBoon

(22,369 posts)
57. Maybe their boss is a rwnj
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:26 PM
Dec 2017

And believes the cashiers are a front in the war against christmas.

And maybe the cashiers are grumpy because they are tired of boss' BS

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
43. You told a cashier who said Merry Christmas
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

To stick it up her ass

Way to strike a blow for the common folk
*golf clap*

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
44. If you really want
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:28 PM
Dec 2017

to piss them off, put on your best Mad Hatter voice and say, in a sing-song voice, "And a very Merry Un-Birthday......to youuuuuuuuuuuu!!!"

I've always said Merry Christmas to those I know for certain believe as I do, and Happy Holidays otherwise.

Trump is such a ignorant hateful ass.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
46. While at work, I let the client set the tone....
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:38 PM
Dec 2017

happy holidays, Merry Christmas or just have a good day...and I follow suit and I truly hope it doesn't sound like it's all worn thin and is contrived. Whatever the greeting, is just not that important to me to attempt the disingenuous, I just want to give a decent and non forced retort and move on. Lots of shit going on, a greeting or parting statement is not that big of a deal to me.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
49. I Had It Happen To Me Once
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:51 PM
Dec 2017

I was in a part of the country where the perceived victimization of the privileged majority was rampant. I was on a business trip and wanted to grab a little gift for a client at the last minute. The nasty, Kim Davis-like cashier could see that I was obviously not from around there and said MERRY CHRISTMAS in quite a confrontational way.

I smiled, said thanks, and wished her a very Happy Kwanzaa.

The utterly confused look on her face was priceless. I'm pretty sure she spent the rest of the day asking people about Kwanzaa.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
50. Oh dear.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:00 PM
Dec 2017

I too live in a pretty red area but not so bad considering most of the rest of Kansas.

I have had to learn how to deal with some of that and I am so sorry this happened to you.

Pick your battles, this "war on Christmas" is, as we all know, just plain stupid. The only people who were upset with Happy Holidays were the "special little snowflakes" who are only happy if they can force you to their will or treat you like jerks if you do not do what they want. At least it started that way but it seems to me now that they just do it because it gives them power and jollies.

I just smile and say it back like I am happy and gay and in the holiday spirit. It may not help anything like my own bile rising but nothing makes them feel worse than picking a target that will not go along with the game. If someone wished you Happy Hannukah would you say Happy Hannukah back? I do because it makes me happy that others celebrate differently and it is good for us all.

I have lived by my Grandfather's rules for many years and this is one of the best. Never let them get to you, shine it on and let them stew.

YMMV

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
51. Lucky thing you did not sneeze...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:01 PM
Dec 2017

Because if you told her to shove it up her ass for wishing you a Merry Christmas, I imagine you would have slugged her had she had the nerve to say ‘God Bless You’

Personally I cannot get my mind around being angry about being Merry Christmased with questionable motives.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
52. God forbid
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:02 PM
Dec 2017

are we really so weak? This sort of thing makes us tell people to shove it up their ass?

What a sad state we have come to.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
58. Wow, a mind reader! Maybe those cashiers were tired? Maybe they were being sincere?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:29 PM
Dec 2017

Your story says more about you, than them.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
60. I simply do not mind whatever holiday wishes someone offers to me.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:35 PM
Dec 2017

I cannot imagine trying to figure out what is in their head as they do so. I never was much good at mind reading anyway. I take it at face value, say thank you same to you, and move on with my day. I generally go about my day in a happy way, hoping the attitude will be returned. Usually it is.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
61. I was a cashier in Texas for awhile.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:41 PM
Dec 2017

I refused to say anything about any holidays to the customers. "Thank you for shopping at XYZ! Have a lovely day!" A few times a day during December some customer would give me the nasty snarling "Merry CHRISTmas!" and I would just smile big and say nothing. Now, I wasn't afraid of losing that job, if I were I might have done differently, but I sure don't like being bullied and dammit, why do people insist on babbling about it when it's still three weeks away?

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
66. Try reading Not Always Right.com and next time be a little nicer
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:49 PM
Dec 2017

That smug look? Probably fucking terror.

Customers are incredibly insane this time of year....and will SCREAM at cashiers for saying happy holidays instead of merry Christmas. They will refuse to be waited on by devil worshippers (because they are too ignorant to differentiate a Star of David from a pentagram) or by a person of color.

I have worked as a cashier and as crazy and made up as some stories seem...I would say most are true. Never underestimate the craziness of a customer.

And people with no power in their own lives (for whatever reason) really seem to get off on abusing people who can do nothing else but stand there and smile and say have a nice day.

With Trump in office, I guarantee it wasn't the CASHIERS that felt emboldened to inflict holiday cheer...it was CUSTOMERS. Customers screaming that it's Trumps America now and you will say Merry Christmas. Customers complaining to corporate about rude "racist" or "terrorist" cashiers that won't wish them Merry Christmas even though it's the "law".

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
75. I Think I Would Have Said Something More Like. . .
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:02 PM
Dec 2017

. . ."oh, it's christmas already? Must have slipped my mind."

That would take them totally off guard, but since it's not nasty, what could they say?

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
76. A few years ago
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:05 PM
Dec 2017

A butcher back in the Kroger meat department handed me the item I had requested THEN gave me a steely look and said "Merry Christmas" in a cold tone that had to be a test to see if I was good or evil. I said "you too", and went on my way. But ,damn, it was COLD! I live in Kentucky. Lots of RW shit for brains people here too.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
77. When it happens this year I think you should say
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:08 PM
Dec 2017

When it happens this year I think you should say wow that sounds more like a fuck you than a merry Christmas so get to know Jesus


Or say happy holy days

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
100. exactly!
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:06 PM
Dec 2017

When I walk into a restaurant and am insincerely greeted by the people at the front desk, I don't reply back with a snotty attitude. I just say thanks and go to my table. They HAVE to say it.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
81. And may the Blessings of the Yule be Upon You...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:27 PM
Dec 2017

It either appeases, confuses or scares the shit out of them.....

randr

(12,412 posts)
84. Have you concidered that their employer may be demanding they wish a "merryxmas" to everyone
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:29 PM
Dec 2017

and they are resentful?

DFW

(54,405 posts)
92. Luckily, we don't have to deal with this nonsense here
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 05:24 PM
Dec 2017

Europe isn't hung up on this issue.

I don't know if anyone here remembers who Father Divine was (good piece of American history to check out), but his organization still owned some property in Philadelphia when I was going to college there. My two roommates and I often ate there, since it was good food and within all our budgets (my two roommates, friends from my senior year of high school, were ghetto guys on full scholarships, and not exactly swimming in it). The women (only women) working in the restaurant there were somewhat elderly, and always said "thank you father and mother." There was always a place set at the head of one table in case Father Divine decided to pay a visit from the hereafter, and was hungry.

Anyway, if you think that people saying Merry Christmas is a little off, try hearing "thank you father and mother" while keeping a straight face.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
121. I know someone from Penn who ate there and said the food was just incredible!! And exactly, with
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:25 PM
Dec 2017

cashiers and workers etc just go with it. We shouldn’t act like assholes with working people who get shit all the time as it is!

Small world DFW! This makes me smile!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
124. There aren't many of us left who were there.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:01 AM
Dec 2017

I don't even think the place was still serving meals by the time I graduated. The women serving there were holdovers from the cult, which had its heyday in the 1930s and 1940s. It provided them with shelter in their "hotels," and food. They were sort of like cult nuns, all unofficially married to Father Divine. One time when I was there with my two roommates, Mother Divine, the virgin (presumably still) bride of Father Divine came in with her "secretarial staff" of five or six women in tow, decked out in fur and jewelry, paraded around the dining room while the poor women working in the restaurant looked on in awe as if the Virgin Mary had popped in and asked for the drink named after her.

The food WAS good, and copious. I don't know if I'd go as far as "incredible," but it was definitely the best bargain in the neighborhood. Being West Philadelphia in 1970, though, that isn't saying much. My roommates and I called the place "Daddy D's" and even started saying "thank you father and mother" around the dorm as a joke. Some of our classmates who did not frequent the same establishments, and had never heard the expression, thought the three of us had gone totally loony.

nini

(16,672 posts)
93. How would they know you weren't a bible thumping christian that wanted to hear Merry Xmas?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 05:29 PM
Dec 2017

I don't get the look in their eyes thing at all.

The Muslim thing is one thing but I'm not getting the snark unless they'd know you thought it was stupid to even care what anyone says.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
97. Really?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:55 PM
Dec 2017

Does it take much to respond with kindness?

This post makes me want to go out of my way to be kind to people. Hopefully I'll take up for your nasty comment.

UGH. Merry Christmas indeed.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
105. Yes, I agree. It makes me sad that people are so unhappy that they treat others poorly.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:26 PM
Dec 2017

Treating people poorly when they are paid to serve you is just wrong. I had a friend years ago and I was horrified when I learned that she was consistently rude to servers, retail people and the like. I told her I though it rather cowardly (and rude) since they had no recourse but to take it. As far as dotard’s influence on anyone, he simply will never have that kind of power over me that I would change my way of interacting with people.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
103. She said to me, "Have you found Jesus?" After ringing up my stuff, in blue northeast.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:11 PM
Dec 2017

I told her she was being brainwashed by a cult.

Hey-she started it.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
106. I might say "Happy Hanukkah, it must be strange for a Jew to wish others Merry Christmas."
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:50 PM
Dec 2017

If there is a protest by the cashier, say "Sorry, I misspoke because I am Jewish and you look Jewish too - have you checked your DNA?"

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
107. 20+ year retail veteran
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:02 PM
Dec 2017

I always give retail workers slack, especially around this time of year. Know how it feels to have a customer a few inches from your face in a spittle flecked rage because the toy their little miracle wants is out of stock.

Or to be told by the boss that "Even when the customer's wrong, they're right" and " I've got fifty applications on my desk right now, you're not irreplaceable. "

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
108. Huh, I live and work in Tarrant County.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:09 PM
Dec 2017

I don't think I've ever found a cashier to be "smug and self righteous".

If I had seen this I would have just thought you were another asshole the retail worker had to deal with that day. I remember working retail during the holidays and assholes were a dime a dozen.

BTW, I've never heard of Tarrant County as being referred to as "big red", but I found one article when I Googled it so there's that.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
110. Your stores still have multiple cashiers? Around here automatic checkouts took over years ago
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:54 PM
Dec 2017

and there will be one very overworked cashier still working a long line and one person to help all of the people screwing up the automated checkouts. I never go to Walmart but they are one of the very few that still use three or four cashiers, and we don’t live in a rural area — we live near a big city.

Your interpretation makes zero sense to me. I don’t think for a second that cashiers at a store are singling you out for some sort of hostile treatment by uttering a common holiday phrase (how the hell would they have any idea what beliefs you do/don’t hold?)

If anything they’ve been told by their employer that they MUST say it to every customer. That would explain the glum looks. It’s hardly a phrase so controversial that only Trump supporters say it.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
128. agree w/ your assessment...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:39 AM
Dec 2017

crazy time of the year for everyone, all self-induced...which is the sad part. Xmas and Holidays are supposed to be a time of peace and joy...this is what the pursuit of the almighty dollar has gained us...sad...

Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
125. Just smile back at them and say, "Well, bless your heart. And happy holidays to you, too!"
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:12 AM
Dec 2017

They'll get the message.

Trueblue Texan

(2,430 posts)
132. I was shopping the other day...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:47 AM
Dec 2017

...and told the clerks who helped me and checked out my purchases, "Merry Christmas!" They told me thank you and the same to me. I then told them I was an Atheist and I celebrate Christmas and I hoped they didn't believe the lie that Atheists have a war on Christmas. Really, every Atheist I know celebrates Christmas--it just means something different for them than the Christians. I wish Christians would act like Christians. I still don't want to be one, but really... they are the meanest people I know.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
133. I know the cashier attitude you mean , smug and self righteous clerks. As a POC I get a chance
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:26 AM
Dec 2017

of experiencing that all year long IMO it is very obvious as you say from a normal transaction Perhaps the little power they desire over another to try and bring another person down at thier clerk job is all they have in their pathetic life because at the point of purchase you are thier captive.
Amazon doesn't judge my front door

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
134. cashiers usually smile & are nice to me. I smile and say hello, how are you-soon as it's my turn.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:38 AM
Dec 2017
try the golden rule for a day, you'll be a happier person

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
135. I'd have them ring me up
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:42 AM
Dec 2017

Say about 150 items, then I'd fish around my pockets and say; "darn I left my wallet in the car" walk out and never go back

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