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If Keith Ellison was named to replace Al Franken, I would expect him to step down from DNC... (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2017 OP
Ahhh...so that's your goal. ret5hd Dec 2017 #1
Um, what goal is that? brooklynite Dec 2017 #2
Your influence is encompassed by your postings here??? ret5hd Dec 2017 #10
But my "influence" gets applied to my meetings and contacts with the Party leadership... brooklynite Dec 2017 #15
For the record, I always appreciate your postings here brooklynite Tom Rinaldo Dec 2017 #21
Same here. n/t FSogol Dec 2017 #33
Have you had a private dinner with him too ? OnDoutside Dec 2017 #12
No, reception for about 30 people. brooklynite Dec 2017 #17
I like Keith but I don't think he'd be the one who's chosen. PatsFan87 Dec 2017 #3
Congressperson is not a full-time job? blogslut Dec 2017 #4
Not as important as a Senate seat. brooklynite Dec 2017 #6
Nah Ellison will be accused next Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #5
You got that right... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #11
SJW is an alt-right and MRA term. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #37
No, it's just a term, as is 'alt-right' or progressive Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #42
You're wrong. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #43
He won't be named to replace Franken as Franken is going nowhere. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #7
Are you aware that six women Senators called on him to step down today? brooklynite Dec 2017 #8
Lessee....they are six in favor of anonymous accusations? ollie10 Dec 2017 #27
Nothing in the Politico article says so, but could it be possible that this former staffer karynnj Dec 2017 #35
Well, do you have any....ANY....evidence to support your hypothetical speculation? ollie10 Dec 2017 #36
No, nor did I claim to karynnj Dec 2017 #38
how many of these senators.... ollie10 Dec 2017 #39
It has been said that all Senators see themselves as future Presidents karynnj Dec 2017 #40
If you can't tell the difference between a prank and real harrassment.... ollie10 Dec 2017 #41
I'm with you and Franken. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #13
Why are you so vigorously promoting Franken be removed? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #9
As your state neighbor... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #14
Up until an hour ago I wasn't (point to a post where I did previously) brooklynite Dec 2017 #16
That's easy... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #19
I said that he acknowledged his action and the apology was accepted... brooklynite Dec 2017 #20
I point to where you claimed that people should stop talking about the accusations. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #24
No, I said people should claim conspiracy theories without evidence. brooklynite Dec 2017 #25
You said that people should claim conspriracy theories without evidence? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #30
Fair enough! ollie10 Dec 2017 #29
BREAKING: Chairman Tom Perez just called on Franken to resign... brooklynite Dec 2017 #18
Given what is happening, he'd only be a senator for a couple of weeks Bettie Dec 2017 #22
I think it will end up being a prominent progressive female that ends up taking his seat. SaschaHM Dec 2017 #23
There's only one female House member (Betty McCollum). No idea what the State legislature looks lik brooklynite Dec 2017 #26
Betty McCollum would be an excellent choice. MineralMan Dec 2017 #32
My guess, if Al resigns, it will be a qualified woman until a special election can be held Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #28
Is that why Tom Perez has called for Franken's resignation? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #31
Minnesota has a deep bench riverwalker Dec 2017 #34
Ellison wouldn't be re-elected Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #44

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
2. Um, what goal is that?
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

And how is my "goal" supported by posting things on an anonymous political blog that has no influence on what DNC does?

(fun fact--unlike most people here I've actually met Ellison in his role as DNC Vice Chair)

ret5hd

(20,501 posts)
10. Your influence is encompassed by your postings here???
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:18 PM
Dec 2017

Yet you always delight in informing us how important you are.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
15. But my "influence" gets applied to my meetings and contacts with the Party leadership...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:24 PM
Dec 2017

Here, I post things that are newsworthy, and I express my opinions on political matters, because that's what DU is for. I'm under no illusion that posting here has any impact on what happens in the real world.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
21. For the record, I always appreciate your postings here brooklynite
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:01 PM
Dec 2017

Whether or not I always agree, they are thoughtful, fair, and most often informative.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
3. I like Keith but I don't think he'd be the one who's chosen.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:11 PM
Dec 2017

I think Dayton would go with Lori Swanson or Tina Smith.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
5. Nah Ellison will be accused next
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:12 PM
Dec 2017

"He touched my butt in a photo 7 yrs ago" -anonymous

"RABBLERABBLERABBLE HE SHOULD RESIGN, BOO HOO"

Just wait & see, they are giddy that SJWs are so damn gullible. Ugh.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
42. No, it's just a term, as is 'alt-right' or progressive
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:05 PM
Dec 2017

Maybe some have personal feelings about it but it's just a descriptor. Neutral and not derogatory in any way, so I don't see anything against using it. Nothing negative intended there. (Have seen folks self-affiliate as being SJWs etc)

I guess my take on it would be those who take that badge of honor are falling on their own swords too willingly, and that is painful to witness. Sucks but true.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
43. You're wrong.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:15 PM
Dec 2017

It does have derogatory meaning in that it is incredibly dismissive, exactly the way you used it to dismiss "SJW's" as being damn gullible.

Your take on it is your opinion, not fact.

Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
7. He won't be named to replace Franken as Franken is going nowhere.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:16 PM
Dec 2017

Also, I am not sure he could get elected in Minnesota which has been quite purple recently.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
35. Nothing in the Politico article says so, but could it be possible that this former staffer
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:55 PM
Dec 2017

and the person she worked for may have spoken to these women? That might explain why this accusation - that from before he was in the Senate and did not involve someone working for him. If so, some of them had contact with this women from the days she was a staffer -- or if their staff did, it might be that she is not just not anonymous to them, but a credible person.

The Senate contains just 100 people, I assume if even ONE is able to speak first hand giving this woman credibility, then this is not the same as an anonymous complaint.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
38. No, nor did I claim to
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:41 PM
Dec 2017

It was clear that it was total speculation. Her accusation was not worse in any dimension to the ones out there and I thought it unlikely that it was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

What is clear is that it QUICKLY got a large number of Democratic Senators to react very strongly. The fact that she was a staffer when she claimed this advance to have happened, it seemed likely she still knows other staffers and maybe Congresspeople.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
40. It has been said that all Senators see themselves as future Presidents
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:54 PM
Dec 2017

That said there are now 2 dozen Senators -- meaning half of the Democratic caucus - https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/gillibrand-calls-on-franken-to-resign-282112

Now, I saw and shook hands with my senior Senator at a campaign rally in Burlington last year, I am reasonably certain that he does not envision a run for President in his future.

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
41. If you can't tell the difference between a prank and real harrassment....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:02 PM
Dec 2017

.....if you are not in favor of an investigation instead of a lynch mob.....if you roll over every time a Republican does a hit job on a Democrat......you will not have my vote in the primaries, nor my support.

We need an investigation....not a grand standing lynch mob with politically motivations obvious

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
9. Why are you so vigorously promoting Franken be removed?
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:17 PM
Dec 2017

I recognize your name from long ago, so your account has been around forever...

Franken is my Senator and Ellison is my Rep, so while I hate to say it, my opinion is a hell of a lot more important than yours.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
16. Up until an hour ago I wasn't (point to a post where I did previously)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:28 PM
Dec 2017

...but that doesn't mean I ignore news with significant impact (see: Six women Senators calling on him to step down).

I do now, based on the Senators' call because 1) I respect their judgement and 2) I see the political damage growing to a point where the risks of keeping him in office outweigh the benefits.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
20. I said that he acknowledged his action and the apology was accepted...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:56 PM
Dec 2017

...point to where I said he should step down.

My post was in response to all the "it's an RNC plot" conspiracy theories.

nb - now 14 Democratic Senators are calling for Franken to step down. Guess they're just not as smart as some anonlymous bloggers.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
24. I point to where you claimed that people should stop talking about the accusations.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:29 PM
Dec 2017

Your bias is clear.

I'll call for Franken to step down right after Trump and Farenthold resign and Moore wthdraws from the election

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
25. No, I said people should claim conspiracy theories without evidence.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:31 PM
Dec 2017

Now 16 Democratic Senators and the DNC Chair calling on him to step down. I see this as reaching a tipping point.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
30. You said that people should claim conspriracy theories without evidence?
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:40 PM
Dec 2017

Can't quite make your mind up. Are you the guy from the island that tells alternating truths and lies?

I'm going to say that anonymous claims without evidence are not worth the electrons to publish them.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
18. BREAKING: Chairman Tom Perez just called on Franken to resign...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:31 PM
Dec 2017



...along with 10 Democratic Senators. I can read the handwriting on the wall.

Bettie

(16,111 posts)
22. Given what is happening, he'd only be a senator for a couple of weeks
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:02 PM
Dec 2017

before he'd be accused by anonymous people of being a member of ISIS and have to step down.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
23. I think it will end up being a prominent progressive female that ends up taking his seat.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:04 PM
Dec 2017

Preferably someone with state wide recognition in his state.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
34. Minnesota has a deep bench
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 02:46 PM
Dec 2017

Our AG Lori Swanson was named one of nations top ten attorneys. She’s a bulldog on consumer rights. She was planning on running as DFL candidate for governor, but is on Gov Dayton short list to replace Franken. Don’t know how progressive she is on other issues, she’s young and aggressive as AG.

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